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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27656194 - 02/12/22 10:08 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

They aren't super slow, esp. on agar, but on grain they stall for me after some time so I have to shake again for them to finish colonizing.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27656323 - 02/12/22 11:58 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Sounds like contam, they behave normally once you have a good/clean culture.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27656357 - 02/12/22 12:41 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

It's definitely not contam. Probably just bad culture.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27656367 - 02/12/22 12:48 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't pin this on contam, mycelium can do lots of crazy things like being slow or stalling without reason while being fine after a shake.
Doesn't mean it's a dirty culture. Pans did that a lot for me and I'm sure Semis are capable of this kind of mischief as well.

Anyone got some more photos of cultures and jars?


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
    #27656535 - 02/12/22 03:19 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Will do once our guest room turns back into my lab.😬


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27657059 - 02/13/22 05:26 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Sorry if this is already answered somewhere, but is there any grow log or info around indoors P. Semilanceata grows? I don't have a garden to do outdoor grows in, but have some going on agar (and have dried caps left to experiment more with) and considering giving it a try, mainly just for the fun of researching it.

If I used a substrate similar to what you'd find outdoors and tried to mimic the temperature/moisture/FAE it would get in the wild, could that work or is there more to pay attention to?

Also when ending up with some fruit indoors, could you keep cloning to end up with genetics that grow much better in indoor conditions?

If I do the experiment I'll definitely keep a log and post updates.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: ChildOfTheMoon] * 1
    #27657362 - 02/13/22 11:05 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

All the info I could find on the shroomery is linked at the bottom of the first post.

The grows that I would consider real indoor grows and documented the best are from captain future. Workman and cronicr did some as well but
the info is a bit sparse or scattered over an entire thread. Just be aware that in some posts people are talking about all sorts of things
to use in their substrates and how soil from outdoors is needed because of beneficial bacteria but I wouldn't pay too much attention
to this and keep it simple. Cronicr has fruited from cased grain and 100% coir substrates apparently.

I would start with a few cakes/bottles with just coir and some with coir and horse manure or straw and horse manure. You can use BRF,
whole meal flour or wheat bran for nutrients. Make as much cakes as you can and not just a couple so you have enough to play around with.
Treat some different to the others and be patient, they can take a while before things are happening.

Good luck and yes, please let us know how things are progressing, doesn't matter if successful or not.


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It should be possible to selectively breed most species to improve results under certain conditions but this might take a long time and
I'm not sure how far you will be able to push it. Would be of advantage to have more than one source of genetic material from different
parts of the world I guess.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27657560 - 02/13/22 01:41 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hey two of my boxes was under roof the whole time


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27657923 - 02/13/22 07:38 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Yes sorry, but ChildOfTheMoon asked for a grow log and the thread about your semis doesn't contain much information about how you did it
so that's why I haven't mentioned it in my reply. It's linked in the OP though.

Not saying that you haven't done a great job at growing yours. Would be good if you could get out a few details about your grow in one spot
though and by the way, if you feel like linking your grow then go ahead and do it, this is not my thread, it's anyone's thread, I just started it.


The only really successful indoor grow on here I've seen is by captain future and he said that this was because of a specific culture he grew
out and some of his cultures didn't fruit with his setup. I wouldn't consider a box in an unheated garage or shed a real indoor grow as
some of the condition as still provided by the outdoor climate. Even fruiting in an unheated room in a house with the window open is not
really an indoor grow IMO. So cronicrs grow isn't really indoor either in this respect cause this is what he did IIRC.

I have had a flower pot that fruited outside and after the first flush I took it indoors and put it into an SGFC in an unheated room and it
grew 2 more flushes which I wouldn't call an indoor grow either.

IMO a real indoor grow would be a grow that is not influenced by outdoor climate at all at any point so it's done independent from the seasons.

But that's just an opinion and open for discussion.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 3
    #27658252 - 02/14/22 05:15 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

These are going to grains today. It's a culture from a cloned fruit



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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
    #27660143 - 02/15/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Why is under roof outdoor grow?

Am i supposed to stay in the same room as the mycelia while it's fruiting? You can only place it in a initial room indoors to qualify for indoors grow?

I'm telling you, last two shoeboxes, under roof.
No outside FAE.

Indoor conditions are affected by outdoor conditions - heard about winter? It's why we heat our houses.

What I did was no no different from moving them to a poorly isolated, low temperature room.

Flowerpot outside.
Shoeboxes inside.

Garages are homes.
Just ask Americans at this forum.

Shoeboxes intentional, i had beds that failed at the same time, so no need to move those shoeboxes to a porch etc- other cultures in ground, and temperature freezing outside when shoeboxes pin and mature inside roofed garage 0-10C

Garages are homes


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27660812 - 02/16/22 02:18 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

As I said before you did a great job and I'm not actively dragging your grow through the mud here buddy. It just doesn't fit my
definition of an indoor grow is all I'm saying. Just my opinion...everyone has one. No big deal.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27660819 - 02/16/22 02:46 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the answers!

I guess it doesn’t really matter to me if it’s β€œreal” indoor or not (or if it works out or not, mainly just want to have fun experimenting), just can’t do it in a garden cause I live in an apartment. I could always try a flowerpot out of the window or something though.

I think I’ll try to make slants out of some of the agar just for the sake of preserving some of it, and use the rest for some experimentation. I don’t think I want to eat the caps I have left now that I have homegrown cubes (homegrown > stuff I bought from someone who got them from someone else who got it from another person), sounds more fun to try to grow from them.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: ChildOfTheMoon]
    #27660825 - 02/16/22 03:00 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Experimenting is fun :thumbup:


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #27663209 - 02/17/22 08:51 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)



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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27664188 - 02/18/22 04:24 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Did you just hurry that or in- burry it?
Damn baba that looks SOLID :thumbup:
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
    #27664207 - 02/18/22 04:39 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thanks.
Raked the composted clippings away and dug a hole so it sits level with the ground, covered with composted and dry grass clipping mix.
This substrate looks solid but was fragile as, you can see how it broke in the middle in the second photo. Might put the next one on top of
the ground and cover with grass clippings. Lost 2 tubs and 3 shoeboxed to some green mold, still got 7 going and looking good so far.

Just checked the spawned patches and there are a myriad of critters in the soil. I wanted to spawn later in march when it's a bit colder and
bugs are starting to turn dormant so I hope they are not munching it all up before prime time.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27664326 - 02/18/22 06:29 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Anything eating it will poop it out spreading it for you :bigyesnod:
My azures first time outside had mice ravage my grain spawn, but their poops then lined mouse tunnels with mycelium!
Looks πŸ‘ great
Captain future has semi in lawn after tossing old crap bags out for yrs.
you will be rewarded :wizard: also


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
    #27664964 - 02/19/22 10:15 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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... but their poops then lined mouse tunnels with mycelium!





Are you being serious right now? I find it hard to believe they wouldn't digest it.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: rhizoRider] * 1
    #27665041 - 02/19/22 11:07 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I’ve got a rat living under a shed I just spawned ovoids near and he comes out and digs to get at the grain, and I tell him to keep up the good work little guy!  Pretty sure there figured a pretty tight relationship with Psilocybe mescaleroensis and rodents.
Spawned a couple multi spore jars of semis to coir today.


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