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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Land Trout] 1
#27668245 - 02/21/22 07:00 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Looking good Land Trout, are you going to bury those?
My tubs and shoeboxes are continuing to contaminate. I'm burying them as soon as I seen a spec of green. This might be due to the new coir that I use, sloppy pasteurization as I have reduced the time in the sous vide cooker down to 6 hrs or inoculation related. 
The subs do still smell nice so I think this will still work out in the end. Now I'm down to 2 mini monos with h-manure/coir and 3 shoeboxes with coir compost. The monos are nicely colonized and I have put one into fruitng conditions although it's still 25C during the day.
The monos have a top layer of h-manure/coir

The shoeboxes have a top layer of just coir and do not look as nice.

The outdoor patch with potting soil right out of the bag and the one with partially composted grass clippings have started to colonize which makes me very happy.
Edited by Baba Yaga (02/21/22 07:17 PM)
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27668313 - 02/21/22 07:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Bury or I was thinking of mixing it in with some compost and loose hay in a spot that has some pretty tough grasses near my vegetable garden. My big hope is to just get these living in the soil with the greases right here. The myc already poked through the surface. I spawned these shoe boxes just like cubes.
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Land Trout]
#27668328 - 02/21/22 07:55 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Getting them established would be great. I had cakes buried in my lawn which did great but weren't producing anything the following year, also tried racking some cakes into the lawn. Maybe I should have dropped some manure in those spots to feed them. I hope you'll be successful with this.
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#27668689 - 02/22/22 03:53 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Sort of off topic(?) But this hispanica culture work is starting to play off, consider how close they are in appearance to the cultivated libs?
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yo,
you guys planning indoor cultivation?
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Haywire] 1
#27668809 - 02/22/22 07:59 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Trying to get my semi prints going today, this is really interesting.
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Haywire said: yo,
you guys planning indoor cultivation?
Maybe outdoor, a bit like that idea?
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Looking for Bohemica and Baeocystis, but no requirement
Bohemica is native in Germany (where I live), might get some, if there's time to get there. (It's a >600km drive).
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: BSUUF2]
#27668879 - 02/22/22 08:51 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It's covered but I'm in the market for edible, gourmet, medicinal
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smalltalk_canceled said: It's covered but I'm in the market for edible, gourmet, medicinal
Really large King Oysters? I've cloned some recently from a grocery store...
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Haywire]
#27669225 - 02/22/22 01:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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smalltalk_canceled said:

Sort of off topic(?) But this hispanica culture work is starting to play off, consider how close they are in appearance to the cultivated libs?
Never ran hispanica but this culture looks like a winner.
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Haywire said: yo,
you guys planning indoor cultivation?
I wished bobwastaken would give semis a go in his fridge FC, I know that he managed to grow alutacea in the middle of summer but can't recall if he had a go at libs.
Here is a photo of his FC taken from his journal post.
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] 2
#27669425 - 02/22/22 03:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ive been experimenting over the last year with Semilanceata with some outdoor success. My wife and I bought 5 acres two years ago with 4 acres of old pasture in the PNW. lucky for me, the liberty caps were already there, even though the pasture hadn't had livestock on it for 5 years or so. I got 7grams dried that first October, November, so not a lot, but something. I took a sporeprint and cleaned it up on agar and transferred it to sterilized rye. It was a slow grower, and took 6 weeks or so to colonize after a few shakes. I then transferred that to pasteurized chopped straw and let it sit for another month or so. I then took that inoculated straw and put it under sod that lifted with a shovel in mid June. much later that i wanted but went for it anyway. I tried to mark with flagging some of the locations to know for sure if i was fruitful. At the end of September, i got my first flush in an area where I had never seen them before, so I know it works. unfortunately, i was only able to have about a 10% success rate though, and am still trying to figure out why. We put sheep pigs goats chickens, ducks and turkeys on pasture rotation when we first bought the place, so manure is being added every year. I ended up with 17grams last season form that field, so it is an improvement. But i still don't know why some areas fruited and others didn't. I think shade helps some, and we have a very wet clay soil, but I'm still at a loss as to what makes these guys tick. I've read that some fields are pure "Magic" and they flourish in the thousands. What is making them so special? Ive been thinking of taking soil samples at where they fruit and see if I can learn anything from that. But I am interested in any of your thoughts, or of any experiments you guys think would be good to run Etc. I just transferred to 14 qt. oat jars a couple of days ago, and am going to continue trying. lets figure this out collectively. Thanks for starting the thread!

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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: jihad650] 1
#27669663 - 02/22/22 06:29 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for posting, always good to hear what others try to make it work.
What was your spawn/straw ratio and did you bury a whole block of straw or have you pulled it all apart? Also does it get dry in June / during summer in your corner of the planet?
I would try burying some denser subs like H-manure,coir,straw cakes/substrate with a decent nutrient content put some nicer soil around it like potting soil so it has something to expand into and plant a big cluster of grass on top or directly into it. Don't dig the substrate in too deep though.
Looking if there is any difference in soil between where they grow and where they won't might give you some useful insight. I don't think that clay is the best type of soil for them but that is just a guess.
Edit: Sounds like you have lots of space and could try growing them in some planters as well.
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27670449 - 02/23/22 02:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, this is not my idea, but now I'm a supporter of it:
hispanica and semilanceata is the same
My original hispanica print came from captainfuture, I seriously doubt he mislabeled it
Something is going on here because the fruits and myceliua is super similar, but semis don't throw pins on agar that mature afaik, never have I seen this on a agar plate labeled semilanceata, but I've now experienced 2-3 hispanica agar pins that matured
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Anyone got an extra print they are willing to trade? The print I have I have done 2 rounds of 4 plates and nothing germinates. Let me know
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: CocaineBuffet] 1
#27671026 - 02/23/22 11:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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smalltalk_canceled said: Dude, this is not my idea, but now I'm a supporter of it:
hispanica and semilanceata is the same
My original hispanica print came from captainfuture, I seriously doubt he mislabeled it
Something is going on here because the fruits and myceliua is super similar, but semis don't throw pins on agar that mature afaik, never have I seen this on a agar plate labeled semilanceata, but I've now experienced 2-3 hispanica agar pins that matured
I hope you are sending a hispanica sample to Alan to get some testing done. Saw Alan saying that the sequence is almost the same but that post was from 2017, not sure if there was any development in the meantime. Maybe hispanica are semilanceata growing on a more nutritious substrate since they are looking closer to the once that are cultivated.
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: jihad650]
#27671134 - 02/24/22 02:40 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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jihad650 said: Ive been experimenting over the last year with Semilanceata with some outdoor success. My wife and I bought 5 acres two years ago with 4 acres of old pasture in the PNW. lucky for me, the liberty caps were already there, even though the pasture hadn't had livestock on it for 5 years or so. I got 7grams dried that first October, November, so not a lot, but something. I took a sporeprint and cleaned it up on agar and transferred it to sterilized rye. It was a slow grower, and took 6 weeks or so to colonize after a few shakes. I then transferred that to pasteurized chopped straw and let it sit for another month or so. I then took that inoculated straw and put it under sod that lifted with a shovel in mid June. much later that i wanted but went for it anyway. I tried to mark with flagging some of the locations to know for sure if i was fruitful. At the end of September, i got my first flush in an area where I had never seen them before, so I know it works. unfortunately, i was only able to have about a 10% success rate though, and am still trying to figure out why. We put sheep pigs goats chickens, ducks and turkeys on pasture rotation when we first bought the place, so manure is being added every year. I ended up with 17grams last season form that field, so it is an improvement. But i still don't know why some areas fruited and others didn't. I think shade helps some, and we have a very wet clay soil, but I'm still at a loss as to what makes these guys tick. I've read that some fields are pure "Magic" and they flourish in the thousands. What is making them so special? Ive been thinking of taking soil samples at where they fruit and see if I can learn anything from that. But I am interested in any of your thoughts, or of any experiments you guys think would be good to run Etc. I just transferred to 14 qt. oat jars a couple of days ago, and am going to continue trying. lets figure this out collectively. Thanks for starting the thread!


I agre with Baba, clay is terrible soil for Libs, it's surprising they even grow there at all. And make your sub a bit more dense next time.
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Adas]
#27671386 - 02/24/22 09:04 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Guys, I have a forgotten petri (with supposedly semilanceata culture) in the fridge which stays there for like a year maybe or something. Some time ago Smalltalk's thread reminded me about it and when I checked it had some kind of funky looking primordia, almost pins. It still stays there and the agar is a bit dried already. Just wondered if its possible for it to be still viable if I transfer it to a fresh dish? What do you think?
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: wxorx]
#27671407 - 02/24/22 09:18 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Give it a go. Iβm not familiar with semis on agar, but my PE cubensis culture does this regularly on old, dryish plates. Itβs seems to bounce back just fine when going to soft agar or grains though.
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Thanks, that is what I wanted to hear, there is still hope I guess I would still give it a try, but the demotivating "libs cannot be cultivated (indoor)", lack of time and procrastination would keep me indefinitely from starting it
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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: wxorx] 2
#27671447 - 02/24/22 09:59 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I donβt know if clay type soil is ideal or not, but they donβt seem to mind it. What type of soil are you guys finding them in?
I will try a more nutritious substrate my second go around, thanks for shareing.
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