koods said:

The same drama we’ve been stuck with for eight months. There’s a decent chance the US will see 100,000 new daily cases today.

Most European countries had a summer where essentially nobody died of covid while the US chugged along with 800-1000 deaths per day.

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Enlil said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Enlil said:

That he had business dealings?  Or that they were illegal?

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That he lied about them, as they would be a conflict of interest if he were president.

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Why would they investigate if he lied?  Lying isn't a crime.  Also, having business dealings in foreign countries isn't a crime.  Trump has business dealings all over the world.  Is that a conflict of interest?

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koods said:

This virus seems to love people being inside. Places like Florida, Texas and Arizona are too hot to be outside in the summer, and they saw the huge spikes and now the spikes are in places like North Dakota and Wisconsin where it’s getting too cold to be outside.

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Metoo said:

koods said:

The same drama we’ve been stuck with for eight months. There’s a decent chance the US will see 100,000 new daily cases today.

Most European countries had a summer where essentially nobody died of covid while the US chugged along with 800-1000 deaths per day.

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Correct, they managed to squeeze the new case numbers right down through a series of lockdowns but things have now taken a turn for the worse. My point is that the personal protective measures recommended by the medical people (masks, distancing etc) will not suppress the covid pandemic which has spread over a larger geographic area where people are free to move. And both Europe and EU woke up in January to a pandemic that had already taken hold so a 20/20 analysis suggests that vaccine was the only realistic eradication strategy - aided by targeted, regional lockdowns and focus on therapeutics. Well, as much as this will annoy some people this is exactly what Trump went with.

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Masks are the number one most cost effective method at suppressing spread. States with more mask wearing have less covid. This is about the most convincing correlation you will ever see.

Everyone should wear a mask in public. Avoid public indoor activities, no bars or indoor dining and no in-person classes. If everyone followed these rules we would be OK until the vaccine. It’s not that hard.

koods said:

Falcon told us Trump seeking business deals in Russia and lying about it while running for President was fine.

That’s the level of hypocrisy we’re dealing with.

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Metoo said:

koods said:

This virus seems to love people being inside. Places like Florida, Texas and Arizona are too hot to be outside in the summer, and they saw the huge spikes and now the spikes are in places like North Dakota and Wisconsin where it’s getting too cold to be outside.

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There is a lot we do not know yet but the main things seems to be that covid kills mainly old folk. Not sure if this has been mentioned here but the median age of covid mortalities in the US is 78 years - roughly the same as the life expectancy. These two are not quite the same - life expectancy is an average number dragged down by infant deaths etc but what it does mean is that half of all covid deaths are in people who have already lived longer than average. This may be why Africa never became the hot spot we had feared - there is not enough old people there to make the mortality numbers look alarming. And yes, Africans may be spending more time outdoors than Europeans.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Enlil said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Enlil said:

That he had business dealings?  Or that they were illegal?

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That he lied about them, as they would be a conflict of interest if he were president.

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Why would they investigate if he lied?  Lying isn't a crime.  Also, having business dealings in foreign countries isn't a crime.  Trump has business dealings all over the world.  Is that a conflict of interest?

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Having a business in a foreign country isn't illegal.  Influencing Government policy for money is.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

Falcon told us Trump seeking business deals in Russia and lying about it while running for President was fine.

That’s the level of hypocrisy we’re dealing with.

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Source, or make believe?  Where did I say lying about it was ok?

And what exactly did Trump lie about out of curiosity?

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Mach z 800 said:

Enlil said:

Either way, you're going to have to figure out some way of coming to terms with the fact that Joe Biden is going to be your president for a year or two.  I don't like that idea any more than you do, but we both have to face reality.

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well the way i see it this what could happen, biden will be in for about a year than they will say hes not mentally fit to be president an AOC will take his place. I think AOC wants to be the real president she has a few scews missing from factory lol.

But i think trump could win this election because biden back tracks an cant give a straight answer to critical things . An people are fed up with protesting an people being forced to choose sides .

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Enlil said:

Everyone in Congress is paid money to influence government policy.  Every lobbyist is paid money to influence government policy.

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koods said:

He said he while campaigning in 2016 that he wasn’t seeking business deals in Russia and when we found out he was you said it was fine for him to do so since he might not have won the election.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

He said he while campaigning in 2016 that he wasn’t seeking business deals in Russia and when we found out he was you said it was fine for him to do so since he might not have won the election.

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Having a business in a foreign country isn't illegal.  Influencing US Government policy for foreign money is.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Enlil said:

Everyone in Congress is paid money to influence government policy.  Every lobbyist is paid money to influence government policy.

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Is everyone in Congress paid by foreign Governments to influence policy?

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Enlil said:

Is there any evidence that Joe Biden was paid by a foreign government to influence policy?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Can you please link to the lie?

To the best of my knowledge, he had no Russian businesses when he became President.

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