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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon]
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By the time that tweet had come out the rest of the world was already mortified by his inaction.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: pineninja] * 1
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yep and he still did not endorse masks without giving himself a way to deny that he did.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon]
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Inaction is the best response when those who demand lunatic, political action that is meaningless and pointless is the only suggested alternative.  PS i had covid.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: meltdowner] * 1
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meltdowner said:
Inaction is the best response when those who demand lunatic, political action that is meaningless, pointless and is the only suggested alternative.  PS i had covid.



He could have said we're going to do nothing.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon]
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Vahn421 said:
qman said:
Vahn421 said:
SirTripAlot said:
You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.




There's no speculating on what's about to happen to our economy if we don't get back to 100%. We can exercise caution with masks or whatever people want, but the damage Covid is doing will be a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that will occur due to economic collapse.

I already said this twice but, we already have over 10,000 children who have died in third world countries related to the lockdown and tens of thousands of adults as well. We're just getting started, here.



There is no economic collapse, but there's different methods to deal with the massive slowdown of large parts of the economy.

Have you noticed that Wall Street hasn't collapsed, but instead is thriving?  Why is that?  Oh, they got trillions and trillions of free money to avoid any economic pain.

So why can't the same method get applied to Main Street?  Oh, now there's the problem, The Elite don't want to help Main Street. So you see, it's all a choice what the economic ramifications are when it comes to this economic slowdown.

I highly suggest not buying into The Elite's propaganda about having to return to economic normalcy or else. It's complete bullshit and all they want is their high profits at the expense of the working class getting sick. They don't give a fuck, so don't buy into their nonsense.



I mean we could get into the cabal and the satanic pedophile elite that own this country and control almost all our media and information... but some people are still convinced it's just a conspiracy. :lol:

I agree there's a whole lot more going on than what is on the surface and that rich and powerful people are more interested in preserving themselves and their circles than the rest of us.

I disagree that the economy isn't fucked. We're on a downward spiral circling the drain and I don't think anything is going to allow us to recover because our paranoid attitudes about covid are too strong. In fact, I'm pretty sure the dems are going to run the covid scare into the ground and take us all with them. They'll throw millions of Americans under the bus just to get Trump out of the white house.



falcon said:
koods said:
MagicMush123 said:
koods said:
Trump constantly undermining the public health effort is fucking criminal. Tens of thousands of people will die because MAGA made not wearing a mask a virtue as American as loving the troops. There are people going to their grave satisfied that they’ve died to save our freedoms. Herman Cains.



You couldn't be more wrong. Trump tweeted that its patriotic to wear a mask and that he in fact wears one :canthelpbutlaugh:



You are up to your eyeballs in koolaide. I’m honestly fascinated by the ability of some people to completely surrender their common sense and judgement to a con man like trump. How the fuck can someone not see him for what he is. It’s not even a judgment call. His grift is right out in the open. It’s amazing how some people are so easily manipulated.




That's not what he tweeted, he tweeted that some people say that wearing a mask is patriotic, there's noone more patriotic than me. He left it ambiguous whether the two phrases were complimentary or at odds with one another. He left himself with plausible deniability as to what he meant instead of whole heartedly endorsing the wearing of masks.



He usually speaks that way. That's what he was doing when he was giving out idiotic medical advice. He didn't say go drink bleach, but he was putting the idea out there. And then some people drank bleach.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Vahn421 said:
SirTripAlot said:
You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.




There's no speculating on what's about to happen to our economy if we don't get back to 100%. We can exercise caution with masks or whatever people want, but the damage Covid is doing will be a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that will occur due to economic collapse.

I already said this twice but, we already have over 10,000 children who have died in third world countries related to the lockdown and tens of thousands of adults as well. We're just getting started, here.



There is no economic collapse, but there's different methods to deal with the massive slowdown of large parts of the economy.

Have you noticed that Wall Street hasn't collapsed, but instead is thriving?  Why is that?  Oh, they got trillions and trillions of free money to avoid any economic pain.

So why can't the same method get applied to Main Street?  Oh, now there's the problem, The Elite don't want to help Main Street. So you see, it's all a choice what the economic ramifications are when it comes to this economic slowdown.

I highly suggest not buying into The Elite's propaganda about having to return to economic normalcy or else. It's complete bullshit and all they want is their high profits at the expense of the working class getting sick. They don't give a fuck, so don't buy into their nonsense.




Also, the stock market tends to respond very well to job cuts.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
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Politics is a grand scheme of counting thr lowest common denominator. It costs tons of money for politicians to make their daily living yet despite how other sections of business run where if a person goes to the store or hires a gardner or hires a tax accountant or gets a manicure or needs a doctor or a lawyer or what have you where if the service is not 100% to the quality paid for the customer usually does not want to pay at all with politics the person who will "only do 50% as bad as the other guy" always seems to be the prime candidate. I will never understand why people believe in this shit.

I would not vote for Koods. The government told him "not to go outside unless absolutely essential" yet he went outside during a quarantine to pick shrooms and said he was "socially distancing anyway" then criticised others for taking leniency into their own hands :evil: not my type of candidate. Very hypocritical :smirk: I would not vote for him. Trump and Biden are very hypocritical also I would not vote for either of them


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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Trumps flotilla got in the way when NASA was trying to recover the astronauts yesterday



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Trumps flotilla got in the way when NASA was trying to recover the astronauts yesterday





Ah yes the leader of the free world. So sure of himself as a dictator no one can remove him. Our government, a united group of places that cannot secede. If we did so we would be no better then Europe? Individual countries united by UN treaties with no total dicatorialship? Unbelievable! Yet the US still functions better then any of these other countries. Least common denominator

Yet if it appeared on the ballot to allow every state to secede to its own country and we are all united by the UN instead of the feds I would so vote on it. Although in doing so we would watch this country tear itself apart knowing no state could govern itself without big daddy.

What a bitch it is. We do indeed function the best and yet how I do not know considering how awful we function and the advancements of other countries. Yet everyone says it every day "no country enjoys such a liberation of laws as we do"

:facepalm: other countries are just so :facepalm:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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Yet the US still functions better then any of these other countries



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We do indeed function the best



Can you expand on this?  In what ways does the U.S. function "the best"?  What evidence leads you to believe this?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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Here is the broad answer to the question. An answer I like though:





"Having spent a lot of time abroad, I will say one thing:

America is not perfect by any means, it's got its problems like all countries.

America lags behind in public transportation in most places, but you also need to consider population density. America has very low population density compared to many nations, like many European nations (that have population density similar to New York City). In a place like Texas where population density is extremely low it makes little financial sense to develop subway systems... it would be too expensive and would not serve many people at all. If you look at more densely populated section of the US you will see nearly the same public transportation infrastructure (and commuter rail) as Europe.

For the positives: America is the ONLY country with a functioning government that allow nearly unrestricted firearm ownership. All other countries require very hard to get license and in those countries only special people (police, military, olympic teams) could even shoot a gun at all and still be within the law. Asian countries in particular have the most restrictive restriction on firearms (some have death penalty for having them). For those who think this is bad, well America still manages to be a relatively safe country, while many countries with extremely restrictive laws have rampant crime problem (like Mexico). Because of America's gun culture many people here know how to handle a firearm, should they be called upon to bear arms for the country at least they got that part down.

America also have better respect towards the disadvantaged compared to many countries. In my "home" country (Taiwan) the labor department have little power to enforce labor laws, so much so that following labor law is actually a "feature" rather than a must. Here I work a lot less hard and earn more money doing the same jobs I did in Taiwan, and the bosses don't disrespect you or insult you every step of the way (in Taiwan nearly all bosses make you feel guilty for even receiving a wage from them)

America respects individual freedom a lot more than my country. Apart from the freedom to own guns, having a political opinion won't get you killed in America (it can in Taiwan). People have political discussions all the time and it can turn ugly, but it doesn't lead to people getting beat up. Discrimination is also a lot less, but race relation problems do exist here. I will say that anti discrimination laws here are comprehensive, and not only that if there's a genuine discriminatory treatment they are investigated and companies who discriminate faces significant liability, and the labor department here do have more power to enforce that. In my country if you reported discriminatory treatment, or even less than minimum wage (it happens way too often) or being forced to work off the clock, you'd lose your job and no one else would hire you.

Sometimes you gotta lose it to appreciate it..."



"You know I have been watching a lot of people BMW (B!@t, Moan, and Whine) about how bad the United States of America, because it doesn't have this or that like other countries have. And this post is probably going to see a lot of down votes by the kleptocrats because they can't handle anyone with a differing opinion.

Is the US the best country in the world? Hell YES! We are a nation of misfits and rebels, we are a nation that went from 13 colonies to a world power in less than 200 years. Saved Western Europe. TWICE (or would have rather the US stayed out of the fight and yall could have Deutsch als Primärsprache). American's have fought and died for the people of other nations.

We are a nation of innovators, the names of Edison, Jobs, Wozniak, Gates, the Wright Bros, and Nicola Tesla are known the world over, the internet you are using to complain about was created by Americans.

Is the US dysfunctional? Hell, yes, you could say the unofficial motto of the US is "No one has the right to beat on my brother but me." but like the song says "We may done a bit of fighting amongst ourselves, but you outsiders best leave us alone." Pearl Harbor and 9/11 proves that when and if we need to the US can and does unite in very scary ways against her enemies.

As for the healthcare systems you outsiders so enjoy and kleptocratic progressive statists Americans want to emulate? The reason medicines are cheaper than in the US lies in the fact that socialist medical systems in other nations don't pay fair market value for medicines, and that loss is passed on to the American consumer. In short it is the US citizen who is suffering from higher costs because you don't want to pay full price. One other note on healthcare, and this goes to everyone, if you think you have a right to healthcare, intentionally or unintentionally you believe in slavery, you believe you have the right to steal from healthcare product manufacturers, force service providers and professionals to take care of you.

As for the US military, on that I agree, the US does spend too much, so I would love to see the US pull out of NATO, close every base in Europe and leave Western Europe on its own to deal with Uncle Vlad. I would also have a certain level of schadenfreude as I watched the EU financially collapse inside of a year as local economies collapse be they no longer have an influx of American dollar tax revenue, and national economies collapse as they try to figure out how to keep their HHS spending while at the same time trying to increase their defense budgets to cover what the American taxpayer had been shouldering for the last 60+ years."



https://www.quora.com/Is-the-USA-the-best-country-in-the-world-based-on-indicators-like-health-happiness-life-expectancy-infant-mortality-medicine-literacy-quality-of-education-and-infrastructure








My main thing is this. People must think this is the best country in the world to continue voting for shitty candidates. Every 4 years we have the choice to vote between two totally corrupt officials and somehow the population gets the idea that between the worst of the worst in one department and the worst of the worst the other department we can vote for one and despite all their wrong doings and horrible contributions the people of America will get up and fix all the problems anyway. At the end of the day regardless of all the ignorant spoiled brats that have no idea who they are voting for but vote for the person anyway as though its some celebrity game the guy will be a George Bush or Obama or Trump I swear every decade the choices get worst and worst and despite the assholes trying to rig Congress with their own party officials and get rid of everyone else for total power and dominance hard working good Americans get up and go to work and build the roads and schools and bridges and restaurants and houses and hospitals and get basically no credit for it. Yet it happens. All under the banner of freedom of speech fair protests under quarantines the right to challenge jobs and wages wether they ever change or not the right is there and Americans take full advantage of it. No country has the economy we have at least individually perhaps Asia as a whole or Europe as a whole beats our as ass but US vs any other country no country has our economic growth and movie industry and stock market etc. Now in other countries people take decisions more seriously. Who they vote for. What they do. Where they work. What laws go into effect. They appreciate what they have greater because these countries will fuck them for their seldom ability to chose they must chose well. They have stronger family values but most of their family members dream of retiring in this country.

Other countries have better sectors then the US. Japan probably has better technology. Switzerland has better healthcare and minimum wage etc. People are nicer and more respectful at least in general. Growing up as a kid is probably much better. But in whole our country just reigns supreme all these other super power cities like London, Paris, Mexico City, Sau Paulo, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo they all look up to us.


But in truth the main reason I keep thinking this is the best country is the retarded population that keeps voting for an evil tyrant President in order to spout their mouth off in conversations about how politically correct they are regardless of the consequences of catering to a 2 party system. Yet we always turn out alright. Somehow in a situation where the cost of living is ridiculous and wages support like 10% of the average rent vs wages in the 1970s supporting at the very least the total rent somehow 15 people crowd into one place everyone pitches in and the rent gets paid and a few people may even make it to college and get their own place. The US is a ridiculous country but everyone has some chance some fucked up way to get a sandwich even the homeless can bum enough money for some heroin to warm them through the night.

If anything I think the US takes everything for granted and prices the fuck out of a basic day to look like only Bill Gates can only really afford to live comfortably here.





If other countries had the free speech laws we have and due process in court we have I would move anywhere in a second no questions asked pick up and get the fuck out. The major issues with the US are people fucking shitting all over all the freedoms we are given constantly and non stop government corruption and spoiled brats pretending the problems don't exist and living their life in a politically correct manner for popularity.

The US is the older spoiled brat brother that will beat your ass if you say anything bad but he works harder then anyone else and has a nicer house and if you go with any of the other siblings good luck getting any type of leniency. The US is a motherfucking pain in the ass bully but will share his plate with you at a least a little and let you sulk in the corner and talk shit a little after he beats your ass and if you claim any of the other siblings are better then him he will just be like "go ahead and go live with one of those fuck ass motherfuckers then" and most people don't and he might even let you watch and touch yourself as he makes out with his girlfriend.


The basic argument for the US being the best country is like that scene in Don't Be a Menace To South Central While Drinking Your Juice in The Hood where Ash Tray complains to his under aged dad about charging $13 for giving him a hair cut claiming the Korean dude down the street only charges $7 and Chris Rock or whoever the actor is replies to him "well take your ass down the street and let him fuck your head up for $7 then" so Ash Tray says "nah its cool I will let you cut me" then Chris Rock says "all fixed up padna give me my $13"


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Edited by imachavel (08/03/20 11:28 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon] * 1
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falcon said:
koods said:
MagicMush123 said:
koods said:
Trump constantly undermining the public health effort is fucking criminal. Tens of thousands of people will die because MAGA made not wearing a mask a virtue as American as loving the troops. There are people going to their grave satisfied that they’ve died to save our freedoms. Herman Cains.



You couldn't be more wrong. Trump tweeted that its patriotic to wear a mask and that he in fact wears one :canthelpbutlaugh:



You are up to your eyeballs in koolaide. I’m honestly fascinated by the ability of some people to completely surrender their common sense and judgement to a con man like trump. How the fuck can someone not see him for what he is. It’s not even a judgment call. His grift is right out in the open. It’s amazing how some people are so easily manipulated.




That's not what he tweeted, he tweeted that some people say that wearing a mask is patriotic, there's noone more patriotic than me. He left it ambiguous whether the two phrases were complimentary or at odds with one another. He left himself with plausible deniability as to what he meant instead of whole heartedly endorsing the wearing of masks.



Except he included a picture if himself wearing one :facepalm:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123] * 3
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MagicMush123 said:
Except he included a picture if himself wearing one :facepalm:



And he also Tweeted "There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President!"

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1285299379746811915

People who only watch mainstream news don't seem to know, I guess.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I saw the picture, he worded that in a way that he didn't have to endorse masks. It was a tepid call to use masks.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon]
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Hmm, it doesn't seem like I am going to get a counter argument in this thread at all


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
MagicMush123 said:
Except he included a picture if himself wearing one :facepalm:



And he also Tweeted "There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President!"

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1285299379746811915

People who only watch mainstream news don't seem to know, I guess.



That was in the other falcons post.

I’m not sure how this detail matters except to provide evidence that trump is a toxic narcissist


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel] * 2
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imachavel said:
Hmm, it doesn't seem like I am going to get a counter argument in this thread at all



Our obsession with personal freedom is one of the main reasons this country is falling apart. We live in a toxic “me me me” culture. There’s no sense of respect for other people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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Here's a counter argument:

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As for the healthcare systems you outsiders so enjoy and kleptocratic progressive statists Americans want to emulate? The reason medicines are cheaper than in the US lies in the fact that socialist medical systems in other nations don't pay fair market value for medicines, and that loss is passed on to the American consumer. In short it is the US citizen who is suffering from higher costs because you don't want to pay full price. One other note on healthcare, and this goes to everyone, if you think you have a right to healthcare, intentionally or unintentionally you believe in slavery, you believe you have the right to steal from healthcare product manufacturers, force service providers and professionals to take care of you.



Complete and absolute guff

Do you think the for profit medical companies are like... but... but... we're forced to sell our medicine at a loss to all of these countries and only America will pay for it!11

:rofl:

Also; if "America respects individual freedom a lot more than my country." Is true - why does the US have the most prisoners and highest incarceration rate in the world?

Maybe it sounds like you all should be using those 'sacred guns' to protect people from tyranny - for once


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon] * 1
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falcon said:
I saw the picture, he worded that in a way that he didn't have to endorse masks. It was a tepid call to use masks.



My original point was that trump constantly undermines public health messaging. A tweet of him wearing a mask and saying it’s patriotic doesn’t mean he also doesn’t undermine that message. He’s still undermining the mask message by saying stuff like “masks have their problems.” And it doesn’t erase the months of refusing to model and set an example for wearing masks.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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That tweet did not do anything to undo any of the stupidity he spouted about masks. It was neutral, he could have not made it and the result would have been the same.

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