Jakeoncid419 said:

Wow ur zap myc looks very different than mine. Mine is much softer more pan like.


That bag is fully colonized although you can barely tell in pic

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Exactly! The "Zapo1AC Big Cluster A" clone myc is some aggressive stuff.

I have myc like yours too. It came from the same germination as my AC cultures.

Here you can see my "Zapo1BD clone 2" jar that is fully colonized, right next to the AC culture jar. You can only just see the myc from up close. This clone came from my original BD jar that made a MASSIVE pinset that I cloned. Literally 2/3 of the widemouth jar was one massive pin set but the fruits wouldn't pierce the casing like the AC culture did.



Here are the pics of the original plate that these germinated from and the original post I made.

You can see here why my jars are labled AC and BD. I combined the cultures like I did on a hunch. I can explain if someone is curious but I don't have a lot of time right now. The C culture was the fastest growing but was very thin and whispy. The A B and D (but mostly A) cultures where robust, tall and pillowy but didn't grow as fast. I didnt have enough jars for 4 cultures so I mixed the A and C because they both had traits I was looking for. Then I made a BD jar because I could be wrong about the AC culture. Plus, this isnt cultivation, its a relationship Gotta get to know every part of her.



Notice from bottom how much darker the A B D cultures are compared to the C.



Side lighting really emphasizes this.

cronicr said:

I have a culture of the real deal just need the time to work with it

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I have been obsessed with finding Hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii for a long time. I had an old crusty foil of it from 2014 but after at least 35 attempts with no luck i'm down to maybe 4 whole spores haha. Whoever had the foil before me must have cooked it.

Jakeoncid419 said:

However the meanest most aggressive myc I got down there is the neoxpensis!!! That shit is fucking up whole jars off a wedge in 5-7 days!!  Got a few trays almost ready for FC, I’m really excited about these!

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Aendir said:

Oh yeah !

2 weeks and the end of winter (welcome to Canada !) eventually gave some pinning to those Hoogshagenii / Semperviva !

So what do you think Jake ? Is it too early to decide between Subtropicalis Vs Psilocybe Hoogshagenii (Semperviva) var Convexa ?

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Those are looking great!

hoogshagenii var convexa and subtropicales are the same species. There has been a lot of confusion over these(and hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii AKA True Hoogs) due to how the taxonomy of mushrooms has evolved over the years mixed with human error.

In my experience with Subtropicales the first two flushes have the convex cap. After that every flush has more and more of the fruit have concave caps with a little teensy nipple on top.

For example:

(all of these are the same culture)

Flush #2 of subtropicales(Culture labled Semp1c to be extra confusing). Notice the tight curling of the caps. *I let this flush get too dry and stay too long


Same culture as above but in a tray I had in an unmodified monotub. This is flush #3. See how the curl on the cap isn't as tight and more of the population are losing the "convex" look



Flush #6 of the box from the first pic 5 months later.



Now compare my Subtropicales to the True hoogs Jake is referring to




Acutely umbonate with an extended papilla, which is fancy talk for adorable.

Jakeoncid419 said:

Lol yup I got a bunk from ET then a mid label (that was sub trop anyway)

But I just got a msg from Alan last night he is sending me Hoogashengii acutely umbonate,  subtropicalis, Heim I and some more neoxpensis strains! I too have been hunting true hoog a long time

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WOOOO we are gonna have some gnarly grow logs out of you soon!

mycorry said:

Aendir said:

Oh yeah !

2 weeks and the end of winter (welcome to Canada !) eventually gave some pinning to those Hoogshagenii / Semperviva !

So what do you think Jake ? Is it too early to decide between Subtropicalis Vs Psilocybe Hoogshagenii (Semperviva) var Convexa ?

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Those are looking great!

hoogshagenii var convexa and subtropicales are the same species. There has been a lot of confusion over these(and hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii AKA True Hoogs) due to how the taxonomy of mushrooms has evolved over the years mixed with human error.

In my experience with Subtropicales the first two flushes have the convex cap. After that every flush has more and more of the fruit have concave caps with a little teensy nipple on top.

For example:

(all of these are the same culture)

Flush #2 of subtropicales(Culture labled Semp1c to be extra confusing). Notice the tight curling of the caps. *I let this flush get too dry and stay too long


Same culture as above but in a tray I had in an unmodified monotub. This is flush #3. See how the curl on the cap isn't as tight and more of the population are losing the "convex" look



Flush #6 of the box from the first pic 5 months later.



Now compare my Subtropicales to the True hoogs Jake is referring to




Acutely umbonate with an extended papilla, which is fancy talk for adorable.

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Jakeoncid419 said:

Although I just made a few bags of
fine shredded straw
HWFP (hydrated with tblspoon of glucose in h20)
Coir
Verm
Hummus

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Jakeoncid419 said:

Although I just made a few bags of
fine shredded straw
HWFP (hydrated with tblspoon of glucose in h20)
Coir
Verm
Hummus

I was amazed how fluffy the end result was!
I have high hopes for that recipe

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Hydrating the HWFP with glucose is really clever!

What ratio of water to glucose did you choose?

If that has success I would love to see side by side test with similar recipes but using sugar cane juice or high fructose corn syrup.

What hummus are you using?

Jakeoncid419 said:

mycorry said:

Aendir said:

Oh yeah !

2 weeks and the end of winter (welcome to Canada !) eventually gave some pinning to those Hoogshagenii / Semperviva !

So what do you think Jake ? Is it too early to decide between Subtropicalis Vs Psilocybe Hoogshagenii (Semperviva) var Convexa ?

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Those are looking great!

hoogshagenii var convexa and subtropicales are the same species. There has been a lot of confusion over these(and hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii AKA True Hoogs) due to how the taxonomy of mushrooms has evolved over the years mixed with human error.

In my experience with Subtropicales the first two flushes have the convex cap. After that every flush has more and more of the fruit have concave caps with a little teensy nipple on top.

For example:

(all of these are the same culture)

Flush #2 of subtropicales(Culture labled Semp1c to be extra confusing). Notice the tight curling of the caps. *I let this flush get too dry and stay too long


Same culture as above but in a tray I had in an unmodified monotub. This is flush #3. See how the curl on the cap isn't as tight and more of the population are losing the "convex" look



Flush #6 of the box from the first pic 5 months later.



Now compare my Subtropicales to the True hoogs Jake is referring to




Acutely umbonate with an extended papilla, which is fancy talk for adorable.

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It’s my understanding that Hoogashengii var convexa is not a thing it’s just sub trip then “true hoog” is the Hoogashengii acutely umbonate (spine) that’s the one I’ve been after and I finally am getting from Alan

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mycorry said:

Aendir said:

Oh yeah !

2 weeks and the end of winter (welcome to Canada !) eventually gave some pinning to those Hoogshagenii / Semperviva !

So what do you think Jake ? Is it too early to decide between Subtropicalis Vs Psilocybe Hoogshagenii (Semperviva) var Convexa ?

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Those are looking great!

hoogshagenii var convexa and subtropicales are the same species. There has been a lot of confusion over these(and hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii AKA True Hoogs) due to how the taxonomy of mushrooms has evolved over the years mixed with human error.

In my experience with Subtropicales the first two flushes have the convex cap. After that every flush has more and more of the fruit have concave caps with a little teensy nipple on top.

For example:

(all of these are the same culture)

Flush #2 of subtropicales(Culture labled Semp1c to be extra confusing). Notice the tight curling of the caps. *I let this flush get too dry and stay too long


Same culture as above but in a tray I had in an unmodified monotub. This is flush #3. See how the curl on the cap isn't as tight and more of the population are losing the "convex" look



Flush #6 of the box from the first pic 5 months later.



Now compare my Subtropicales to the True hoogs Jake is referring to




Acutely umbonate with an extended papilla, which is fancy talk for adorable.

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Well understood, thank you Mycorry !

Hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii AKA True Hoogs really are the real deal

But nevertheless, I can't wait for my fake Hoogshagenii from everything I read about it.

Jakeoncid419 said:

Wanna see a magic trick?😉

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Nice!

Most of the attempts that I have seen have some success with libs where using rye grass seed as spawn. Makes sense to me seeing their affinity for turf.

What's your plan with them?

Aendir said:

Well understood, thank you Mycorry !

Hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii AKA True Hoogs really are the real deal

But nevertheless, I can't wait for my fake Hoogshagenii from everything I read about it.

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YES!

So far, my FAVORITE MUSHROOM is Subtropicales. You will not be dissapointed.