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Offlinethe man
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ATKINS diet
    #2147123 - 11/30/03 05:42 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

any of u on it. seems to be alot of hype around it.discuss.......


crustless pizza anyone? hahaa

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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: the man]
    #2147946 - 11/30/03 11:07 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

I'm On the Atkins. Im going on a little over 5 weeks of being on induction. Ive lost 20 pounds. And had i not drank alcohol (BIG NONO in this DIET, so if you cant stop drinking, you wont be able to succeed on this diet much) a few weekends, I would probably be farther along. In atkins you are bring your body into ketosis because you are eating less than 20g of carbs a day (almost all through salad greens and veggies). One of the main goals of atkins is to stop all the unneeded blood sugar spikes in your body cause by sugars and carbohydrates.The first few days of induction most people feel dizzy and this is referred to as the atkins flu. it is just the effects on the body of the switch to ketosis and withdrawal from caffeine and sugar we drink and eat so much. After the first few days, most people on atkins have a reduction in appetite and have little problem sustaining the diet. Cravings disappear for the most part. Almost everyone gets results if you follow induction strictly

Induction is simple yet boring; It is supposed to last a minimum of two weeks, but can last up to 6 months before moving on to other stages of the diet where you lose weight less quickly, but have a bigger variety of food to choose from.
here are the rules of induction taken from www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com :
1. Eat either three regular-sized meals a day or four or five smaller
meals. Do not skip meals or go more than six waking hours without eating.
2. Eat liberally of combinations of fat and protein in the form of poultry,
fish, shellfish, eggs and red meat, as well as of pure, natural fat in the
form of butter, mayonnaise, olive oil, safflower, sunflower and other vegetable
oils (preferably expeller-pressed or cold pressed).
3. Eat no more than 20 grams of carbohydrate, most of which must come in the
form of salad greens and other vegetables. You can eat approximately three
cups--loosely packed-- of salad, or two cups of salad plus one cup of other
vegetables (see list coming up)
4. Eat absolutely no fruit, bread, pasta, grains, starchy vegetables or
dairy products other than cheese, cream or butter. Do not eat nuts or seeds in
the first two weeks. Foods that combine protein and carbohydrates such as
chickpeas, kidney beans and other legumes are not permitted at this time.
5. Eat nothing that is not on the acceptable foods list. And the means
absolutely nothing! Your "just this one taste won't hurt" rationalization is the
kiss of failure during this phase of Atkins.
6. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it
decreases. When hungry, eat the amount that makes you feel satisfied but not
stuffed. When not hungry, eat a small controlled carbohydrate snack to accompany
your nutritional supplements.
7. Don't assume any food is low in carbohydrate--instead read labels!.
Check the carb count (it's on every package) or use the carbohydrate gram counter
in another source.
8. Eat out as often as you wish but be on guard for hidden carbs in gravies,
sauces and dressings. Gravy is often made with flour or cornstarch, and
sugar is sometimes an ingredient in salad dressings.
9. Avoid foods or drinks sweetened with aspartame. Instead, use sucralose
or saccharin. Be sure to count each packet of any of these as 1 gram of carbs.
10. Avoid coffee, tea, and soft drinks that contain caffeine. Excessive
caffeine has been shown to cause low blood sugar, which can make you crave sugar.
11. Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water each day to hydrate your
body, avoid constipation and flush out the by products of burning fat.
12. If you are constipated, mix a tablespoon or more of psyllium husks in a
cup or more of water and drink daily. Or mix ground flaxseed into a shake or
sprinkle wheat bran on a salad or vegetables.







ACCEPTABLE FOODS







Foods you may eat liberally:
ALL FISH
Tuna, Salmon, Sole, Trout, Flounder, Sardines, Herring

ALL FOWL
Chicken, Turkey, Duck, Goose, Cornish hens, Quail, Pheasant

ALL SHELLFISH
Oysters *, mussels *, lobster, clams, squid, shrimp, crabmeat
* oysters and mussels are higher in carbs than other shellfish so limit them
to four ounces per day.

ALL MEAT INCLUDING
Beef, pork, lamb, bacon**, veal, ham **, venison
**Processed meats such as ham, bacon, pepperoni, salami, hot dogs and other
luncheon meats--and some fish -- may be cured with added sugar and will
contribute carbs. Try to avoid meat and fish products cured with nitrates, which are
know carcinogens. Also beware of products that are not exclusively meat,
fish or fowl, such as imitation fish, meatloaf and breaded foods. Finally, do no
consume more than four ounces of organ meat a day.

CHEESE
You can consume three to four ounces daily of the following full fat, firm,
soft and semi-soft aged cheeses*, including:
Cheddar, cow, sheep and goat cheese, cream cheese, gouda, mozzarella,
roquefort and other blue cheeses, swiss.

All cheese have some carb content. The quantity you eat should be governed
by that knowledge. The rule of thumb is to count one oz of cheese as one gram
of carb. Note that cottage cheese, farmers cheese and other fresh cheeses are
not permitted during induction. No "diet" cheese, cheese spreads or whey
cheeses are permitted. Individuals with know yeast symptoms, dairy allergy or
cheese intolerance must avoid cheese. Imitation cheese products are not
allowed, except for soy or rice cheese--but check the carb content.


SALAD VEGETABLES
You can have two to three cups per day
alfalfa sprouts, arugula, bok choy, celery, chives, cucumber, daikon, endive,
escarole, fennel, jicama, lettuce, mache, mushrooms, parsley, peppers,
radicchio, radishes, romaine, sorrel

These salad vegetable are high in phytonutrients and provide a good source of
fiber.

OTHER VEGETABLES

You can have one cup per day if salad does not exceed two cups==these
vegetables are slightly higher in carb contents than the salad vegetables:
Artichoke hearts, asparagus, bamboo shoots, beet greens, broccoli, broccoli
rabe, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, celery root (celeriac), chard,
collard greens, dandelion greens, eggplant, hearts of palm, kale, kohlrabi,
leeks, okra, onion, pumpkin, rhubarb, sauerkraut, scallions, snow peas, spaghetti
squash, spinach, string or wax beans, summer squash, tomato, turnips, water
chestnuts, zucchini

If a vegetable, such as spinach or tomato, cooks down significantly, it must
be measured raw so as not to underestimate its carb count.

SALAD GARNISHES
crumbled crisp bacon, grated cheese, minced hard-boiled egg, sauteed
mushrooms, sour cream.

SPICES
All spices to taste, but make sure none contain added sugar
basil, cayenne, cilantro, dill, garlic, ginger, oregano, pepper, rosemary,
sage, tarragon, thyme.

For salad dressing use oil and vinegar (but not balsamic vinegar, which
contains sugar) or lemon juice and herbs and spices. Prepared salad dressings
without added sugar and no more than two carbs per tablespoon serving are also
fine.

FATS AND OILS
Many fats, especially certain oils, are essential to good nutrition. Olive
oil is particularly valuable. All other vegetable oils are allowed, the best
being canola, walnut, soybean, grapeseed, sesame, sunflower and safflower oils,
especially if they are labeled "cold-pressed" or "expeller-presses." Do not
cook polyunsaturated oils, such as corn, soybean and sunflower oil, at high
temperatures or allow to brown or smoke. Butter is allowed. Margarine should
be avoided, not because of its carb content, but because it is usually made of
trans fats (hydrogenated oils), which are a serious health hazard. (Some
non-hydrogenated margarine's are available in the health food stores.)
You need not remove the skin and fat from meat or fowl. Salmon and other
cold-water fish are an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids.
I cannot stress strongly enough that trying to do a low fat version of Atkins
will interfere with fat burning and derail your weight loss.

BEVERAGES
Clear broth/boullon Not all brands; read the label), club soda, cream (heavy
or light); limit to two to three tablespoons a day, note carb content,
decaffeinated coffee or tea.*
*Excessive caffeine may cause unstable blood sugar and should be avoided by
those who suspect they are caffeine dependent. Everyone should try to avoid
caffiene. Grain beverages (coffee substitutes) are not allowed. Alcoholic
beverages are also not permitted during induction; those low in carbs are an
option, in moderation, in later phases.
Diet soda made with sucralose (splenda), essence-flavored seltzer (must say
"no calories" and must not contain aspartame), herb tea Without barley or any
fruit sugar added), lemon juice or lime juice (note that each contains 2.8
grams carbs per ounce); limit to two to three tablespoons, mineral water, spring
water, water.

ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS
You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the follow
are allowed; sucralose (marketed as Splenda), saccharin, cyclamate,
acesulfame0k, Natural sweeteners ending in the suffix "--ose,", such as maltose,
fructose, etc.., should be avoided. However, certain sugar alcohol's such as
malitol do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.
Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects are produced in
the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high does. The FDA has removed
saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review
of the medical literature and the National institute of Science statement
that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer." It can
be safely consumed in moderation meaning no more than three packets a day.
Saccharin is markets as Sweet n low. We discourage the use of aspartame
(marketed as NutraSweet and Equal) The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only
as a supplement, not as a sweetener.
My preference, however, is sucralose (splenda), the only sweetner made from
sugar. Sucralose is safe, non caloric and dows not raise blood sugar. It has
been used in Canada for years, and the FDA recently approved it after
reviewing more than one hundred studies conducted over the past twenty years.
Note that each packet of splenda is 1 gram of carb, so don't forget to
include the amount in your daily totals.

SPECIAL CATEGORY FOODS
To add variety, each day, you can also eat ten to twenty olives, half a small
avocado, one ounce of sour cream or three ounces of unsweetened heavy cream,
as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice. But be aware
that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may
need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly,
moderate your intake of these foods.






AVOID PITFALLS!
Here are five common pitfalls to avoid:







1. During induction you must not eat any fruit, bread, grains, starchy
vegetables or dairy products other than cheeses, cream or butter.
2. Stay away from diet products unless they specifically state "no
carbohydrates". Most such foods are for low-fat diets, not controlled carbo plans.
3. The words sugarless, sugar free or no sugar added are not sufficient.
The label must state the carb content; that's what you must go by.
4. Many products you do not normally think of as foods, such as chewing gum,
breath mints, cough syrups and cough drops, are filed with sugar or other
caloric sweetners. They must be avoided.
5. Be wary of prepared salads at salad bars or deli counters. For example,
cole slaw or even tuna salad may have been prepared with sugar.

After your two weeks of induction, you then decide whether you want to stay
on phase 1 or move onto one of the other phases. Buy the book and learn more
about the Atkins Way!


Edited by cubanB (12/01/03 12:21 AM)


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: the man]
    #2149327 - 12/01/03 02:15 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

my dad's on it and he's lost 30 pounds since september. he's been pretty big his whole life.

it seems to work, but i've got to think there are better ways to lose weight. any diet that prohibits fruits and vegetables in favor of meat and fat doesn't sound to great to me.

i may be wrong, but i'm pretty sure it works like this: your body can burn carbs, fats, or protein. it prefers carbs over fat and fat over protein, but it can burn any of them. by avoiding carbohydrates and making most of the calories in your diet protein calories, your body will, in the absence of carbohydrates, choose to burn fat for energy instead... your fat.

your body can only metabolize so much of your fat for energy at a time and the balance will be made up by burning protein in your food... unlike carbs and fat, protein contains nitrogen... it's a dirty fuel. removing the waste from protein metabolism is taxing on the kidneys and can dehydrate you in a nasty way.

it isn't healthy, but you will burn fat. it's not a permanent solution though. you cannot live on the atkins diet and the weight will come back once you're off it.


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: ]
    #2149517 - 12/01/03 03:41 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

i dunno, ive got a freind that on it, the whole thing dosnt seem very healthy from what ive read and heard about it. But then what do i know..


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: windex]
    #2153699 - 12/03/03 01:53 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

it's not healthy at all.

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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: cubanB]
    #2153808 - 12/03/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

It definitely isn't healthy, not to mention if your going to be eating a lot of red meat, there have been studies that increase risk of colon cancer. But I don't think people care. People just want to lose fat the easiest way possible, and manufacturers are definitely taking advantage of this diet fad. There's lots of low-carb bars and crap. Not to mention that I saw a KFC ad on tv saying that he's losing weight eating fried chicken because it only contains 10 grams of carbs and a lot of protein.


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: daussaulit]
    #2153951 - 12/03/03 03:21 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

good health is all abotu balance and knowign your body. people who come from cultures liek china can survive on veggy diet. And if u get a 63 russian try to, it jsut wouldnt work.

Diebetes is also prone to ukrainians and aboriginals. there bodys where designed to go long periods without eating. and now in todays world we have bounties of sugar and fat. makign once a survival thing into downfull of a whoel culture. it nuts


d(downfall of a whole culture is a over statement but u get what im saying)

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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: Kremlin]
    #2154114 - 12/03/03 05:18 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Kremlin said:
it's not healthy at all.

--Kremlin





Not to single you out kremlin, this post is for everyone who stated what you posted.

Eating a diet high in fat and protein and low in carbs is nearly a cure all for every ailment related to obesity. The AMA has known this for a looong time.

When you eat alot of fat and sugar together your body will burn the sugar and store the fat. Simple carbs. are burned more easily by the body. This is a fact. Eat alot of fat and very low carbs, you force your body to burn fat. You put it in a fat burning mode.


This way of eating is extremely healthy and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant of the facts.


I want to add that anyone with a weight problem most likely has a problem metabolizing sugar due to inefficient insulin flowing through their veins. This way of eating is most beneficial to those people.


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: sirreal]
    #2154930 - 12/03/03 01:52 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

eating loads of simple carbohydrates that cause your blood sugar to roll like a rollercoaster and your pancreas to be working overtime, all the time, is not healthy.

it's not healthy to avoid fruits and vegetables in favor of meat and fat either.

one thing modern humans are eating too much of is low glycemic index carbohydrate calories- refined flour, potatos, sugar, pasta... all of that. cutting back on those foods would be healthy.... our bodies are not really designed to run on the staples of agriculture.

eating fruits and vegatables is not unhealthy. avoiding them is because they contain carbohydrates and you'd prefer your body burn fat certainly is.

there is more to being healthy than losing weight. eat those veggies.


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: ]
    #2158966 - 12/04/03 07:46 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

ignorant of the facts? not quite

my information is coming directly from a MD, namely my father...

i'll return with specifics asap

--Kremlin


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: Kremlin]
    #2159578 - 12/04/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Ok, some of you have misconceptions of atkins that i couldnt let go on any further.
1)"any diet that prohibits fruits and vegetables in favor of meat and fat doesn't sound to great to me. "

Either your dad is not doing atkins right, or you arent paying too much attention. During the first stage, it is true, fruit is not allowed, but u can start eating fruit within two weeks if you wish.  I eat more veggies now than before I was on atkins. During the induction phase. You are supposed to drink 64 ounces of water a day and have either 3 cups of salad or 2 cups and 1 cups of allowed veggies. You can see the allowed veggie list in my first post.

2)Another misconception is that people on atkins will eat loads and loads of meat because they cant eat anything else. In most cases this is not true. Once on atkins, if you are following by the book. You arent hungry as much .Atkins suppresses your appetite. Much of the way I ate before was more from carbohydrate cravings than actually being hungry. I am rarely REALLY hungry. I eat until im full. I rarely snack anymore. I eat 3 meals a day.

Here is my typical day

Breakfast
3 egg omelette w bacon and  1/2 cup onions or mushroom

Lunch
some kind of salad with two cups of greens (usually shrimp or tuna salad). Ill have the remaining half cup of veggies im allowed in the form of tomato and ill sprinkle cheese on it.

Dinner
MEAT, this is where my meat comes in, some kind of ground beef dish. or like tonight, tri tip steak. mmmmmmmm


if I need to snack, I keep deli meat around and eat it with some cheese.

You are allowed 4 ounces of cheese a day. Which at first was a crutch for me since this diet is hard to get started on. Now i dont eat much cheese either.

"eating loads of simple carbohydrates that cause your blood sugar to roll like a rollercoaster and your pancreas to be working overtime, all the time, is not healthy."

"one thing modern humans are eating too much of is low glycemic index carbohydrate calories- refined flour, potatos, sugar, pasta... all of that. cutting back on those foods would be healthy.... our bodies are not really designed to run on the staples of agriculture."


These two are truew and suprised me. I started this diet to lose weight, but as i read more, i didnt realize how healthy it is for you. One thing atkins tells you to do is GO TO YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE YOU START. the reason is, so you can get a blood test. Later on, when you are losing weight, you go back get another blood test. Atkins actually lowers cholesterol if followed correctly. Now this is if you follow correctly and eat your 20 grams of carbs in the form of 2 cups of saladgreens of 1 cup of the allowed veggies. I agree that all meat and no veggies or fruit is bad for you. That isnt what this diet is. if it was, none of us would ever be able to shit. I need my fiber.



if anyone has questions about this diet or needs help, give me a PM. i will be glad to help you or point you in the right direction.

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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: cubanB]
    #2159583 - 12/04/03 10:53 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

oh, and over at www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com
there is controversy over that KFC commercial because you aren't suppose to eat the breading they put around the chicken and it isnt really safe for some phases of the diet. I believe KFC has pulled that commercial and rightfully so. Some companies are trying to cash in on atkins users since a lot of people are now on low carb diets.


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: the man]
    #2161899 - 12/05/03 04:33 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

My brother went on it and lost a good 30 pounds more or less. He's kept it off too. i think it probably works but I'd imagine you'd need some vitamins to supplement some of the nutrients lost be such a heavy reliance on protein, but then again, I'm no nutritionist, so I really don't know. Good luck with whatever you choose though. peace


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: ]
    #2165033 - 12/06/03 09:23 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:


there is more to being healthy than losing weight. eat those veggies. 





As cubanb said, you are allowed to eat veggies on this diet. Even more once you've gone through the inductive phase and have switched over to ketosis fully.

I never said not to eat veggies, Mush.

Adkins :thumbup:

I lost 43 pounds before and am currently in the best shape of my life!

Never felt better. 


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: Kremlin]
    #2165038 - 12/06/03 09:26 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Kremlin said:
ignorant of the facts? not quite

my information is coming directly from a MD, namely my father...

i'll return with specifics asap

--Kremlin 




Bring those facts on. :smirk:


I have done a lot of research on this. Also, there is alot of available data on the subject. Even from the AMA. 


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: sirreal]
    #2165775 - 12/07/03 05:05 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

he's out of town, when he gets back, i'll bring em on

only thing i can remember off hand is ketone acetosis

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"It is the mind which creates the world about us, and even though we stand side by side in the same meadow, my eyes will never see what is beheld by yours."
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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: Kremlin]
    #2168158 - 12/08/03 05:09 AM (13 years, 9 hours ago)

Quote:

Kremlin said:
he's out of town, when he gets back, i'll bring em on

only thing i can remember off hand is ketone acetosis

--Kremlin




My mother is an insulin dependant diabetic who was injecting herself 7 times a day. Following the adkins diet she is now down to 1 injection a day. She will be free of insulin shots soon.


I know a little bit about the subject.

Having uncontrolled blood sugar is the reason for this problem. Not abstaining from carbohydrates!






From net doctor.co.uk




What is diabetic acidosis (ketoacidosis)?

Diabetic acidosis is a life-threatening condition which can occur in patients with Type 1 (insulin-dependent) diabetes. It leads to high blood glucose levels and the presence of ketones in the urine, as well as certain acids in the blood. Diabetic acidosis requires immediate hospitalisation for treatment with fluid and insulin. Any infection present may require antibiotic treatment.

Diabetic acidosis can usually be avoided through proper treatment of Type 1 diabetes.



What causes diabetic acidosis?

The condition is caused by a lack of insulin. In a person with diabetes it most commonly occurs through omission of insulin doses. Infections are also known to be a factor in the onset of diabetic acidosis.

The main function of insulin is to lower the blood glucose level, although it also reduces the burning of body fat. If your body lacks insulin, the blood glucose will rise and, if the insulin level drops significantly, the body will start burning fat uncontrollably. Glucose will then begin to show up in your urine, along with ketone bodies which turn the body acidic due to their low pH-value. The body attempts to reduce the level of acid by increasing the rate and depth of breathing. At the same time, the high secretion of glucose into the urine causes the loss of large quantities of water and salts, putting the body at serious risk of dehydration.



What are the symptoms of diabetic acidosis?

Since diabetic acidosis is most often linked with high blood glucose levels, symptoms are the same as those for diabetes:



increased thirst


increased urination


fatigue


confusion


possible loss of consciousness.


Symptoms of the acidosis itself can also occur:


fast, deep breathing


a smell of acetone on the breath


nausea, vomiting and stomach pains.


Diabetic acidosis is often triggered by an infectious disease. It can develop in anything from a matter of hours to a few days.



Ways to help yourself

In order to prevent diabetic acidosis from developing in the first place, tight control of blood glucose levels should be kept. Regular measurement will help you with this.

It is especially important to measure your blood glucose level when you are not feeling well.

If your blood glucose level is too high you should measure the ketone bodies in your urine. Remember that ketone-measuring urine strips go out of date very quickly, so they will not always detect ketone bodies even if they are present. If you do detect them in your urine, and your blood glucose levels are also high, contact your doctor for help and instructions.

Diabetic acidosis is often triggered by an infection, such as a urine or chest infection.

A very common combination is a stomach infection (gastritis) and ketoacidosis. This commonly leads to nausea, vomiting and reduced eating, making the patient believe that less insulin is needed. But during a serious illness, especially during the presence of an infection with fever, more insulin is almost always necessary. In fact, insufficient amounts of insulin can very quickly lead to diabetic ketoacidosis.

For this reason, it is extremely important that people with diabetes measure their blood glucose level if they are suffering from any other illness, and if the level is high, to take more insulin to lower the glucose level again.



How do you know if you have this problem?

The diagnosis is made by:



measuring your blood glucose level; this is usually in double figures and may be very high.


measuring the level of glucose in your urine. Note, however, that measuring glucose in urine is less accurate than testing blood sugar.


a blood sample taken from an artery to measure the acidic content of your body.


At the same time, the doctor will look for the presence of infection.



How is diabetic acidosis treated and what medication is used?

Diabetic acidosis is treated in the hospital on an inpatient basis, often in an Intensive Care Unit. Treatment consists of:



intravenous fluids, initially with salt-containing, and later glucose-containing fluids


intravenous insulin drip-feed (infusion)


potassium supplements added to the infusion


antibiotics, if an infection is identified.



Exercise

Some diabetic patients think exercise will take care of high blood glucose levels and ketone bodies in the urine. In fact, this only makes things worse. Diabetic acidosis is caused by a low insulin level and must be treated with insulin.



Long-term prospects

If the diabetic acidosis is diagnosed and treated early, the patient should recover fully within a few days. If the acidosis is not treated promptly, it will become life-threatening.



Based on a text by Dr Jan Erik Henriksen, Dr Ole Hother Nielsen and Prof Henning Bech-Nielsen


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: sirreal]
    #2168993 - 12/08/03 02:37 PM (13 years, 7 minutes ago)

about the healthy/unhealthy debate:
excercise to add more fight against the cholesterol
drink a TON of water to not get sick from so much meat

you will be fine and lose a ton of weight. but what's important is, lose as much as you can, and then when you go insane and have to start eating carbs again, either get a carb-blocking supplement or excersize a ton to fight it off.

the diet is awesome. i lost 15 lbs in under a month, then stopped and gained back 5 real quick. but, with my now super-charged metabolism, i could start losing weight super easy.

reccomended, but do it in only one run, do not cheat...it's all about consistancy, and then coming off the diet correctly.


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Re: ATKINS diet [Re: cyrus]
    #2175727 - 12/14/03 01:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If i have to make one more fukking cezar salad with "no crutons", i am going to kick someones ass. My Job will be alot easier when this fad is over, this diet is like 30 years old, get over it.


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    #2194231 - 12/21/03 07:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If it works, why "get over it?"

I've some friends who have done it and are better off healthwise (not just weight - energy, cholosterol levels, etc.)

"That drinking water thing has been around for billions of years - when are you going to get over it?"


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