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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12243387 - 03/21/10 04:22 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I just found a few mapo tofu recipes, but the ones I found all used ground pork.  Is it a dish that can be done without meat?  Happen to know where I can find a recipe?

Also, if you know where I could get some other vegetarian Asian or North African recipes that you believe to be particularly good, I'd really appreciate some direction.  I love experimenting with food, and trying new things. 

I appreciate the help. :grin:


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: BothHands]
    #12243797 - 03/21/10 05:40 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

There are a lot of Moroccan dishes without meat which heavily use lentils and are delicious. I'll see if I can find anything. I've never made the dishes, but had them at various restaurants.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: BothHands]
    #12243875 - 03/21/10 05:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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A grass fed cow needs far, far more land to survive than a grain fed cow.  It saves money.

A grain fed cow only needs about 3 square meters of space, whereas a grass fed cow needs like 1/4 acre.

But that pyramid looks good.  Much better than the FDA's one, actually. 







not really.  look at how much acreage is used to grow the grain to feed the cattle.  the room to house the cattle.  the land needed to deposit their waste onto, etc...

free range cattle should be/are rotated, and a couple acres of good forage could support a small, properly managed herd


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: BothHands]
    #12244451 - 03/21/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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I just found a few mapo tofu recipes, but the ones I found all used ground pork.  Is it a dish that can be done without meat?  Happen to know where I can find a recipe?

Also, if you know where I could get some other vegetarian Asian or North African recipes that you believe to be particularly good, I'd really appreciate some direction.  I love experimenting with food, and trying new things. 

I appreciate the help. :grin:







mapo tofu can be made without meat, but then it wouldn't really be mapo tofu.


i didn't mean to suggest it's a vegetarian dish, it's just the best possible use of tofu out there.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12245998 - 03/21/10 11:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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I think alot of the shortcomings with vegetarian food is the flaw of western culture.



Like i don't really understand this infatuation with making meat substitutes out of vegetable ingrediants.


I mean to me it's just like a tease, an immitation, a Plan B to the real thing.



Yet if you go to a place like say, India, who've been cooking vegetarian foods devotely for centuries, the diversity and quality of vegetarian dishes is pretty incredible.



Like what people do to Tofu in this country is pretty laughable.  That's why so many westerners have lost respect for tofu.  Cuz people are trying to wrap em up in veggie wraps, using it to shape artificial turkeys, etc.





Fuck yes. I went to the harvest festival at the Summertown, TN  commune several years ago where they serve only vegan food for the entire 3 day event,which consists of about 30% "meat substitute" i.e TVP, gluten and fucking YEAST CHEESE  :projectile: . By the end of it I just wanted to scream WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE JUST GIVE ME SOME STEAMED FUCKING BROCCOLI AND SOME SALT!!!


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: BothHands]
    #12248854 - 03/22/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Cows are supposed to eat grass. Not grain that humans can consume as well. Grass fed beef tastes better and is a better quality meat. It's also usually more expensive.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #12248898 - 03/22/10 01:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, The Farm is pretty lame. I live too close to have avoided it.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Mchaggis]
    #12262323 - 03/24/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Well, let me try to give a basic pyramid for how a sustainable vegan diet is supposed to look, since I feel I can at least contribute that.

The base of the pyramid would be fibrous vegetables.  About 45 percent of daily calories should come from a combination of leafy green and brightly colored vegetables. 

The second tier includes fruits and legumes.  20 percent caloric intake of each.

Above this are your cold pressed oils, nuts, avacado.  10 percent caloric intake.

5 percent caloric intake of whole grains and starchy vegetables top it off.

Of course it is important (always) to eat a large variety of foods to increase the odds of getting all required nutrients from diet.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #12262426 - 03/24/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12262480 - 03/24/10 01:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: BothHands]
    #12262649 - 03/24/10 01:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

it's brisket son,



brisket


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #12262695 - 03/24/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

45% straight leafy vegetables sounds like a recipe for the runs for me :shrug: bread and cheese please?


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Mchaggis]
    #12263030 - 03/24/10 02:08 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

cheese tortures animals brah


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #12263114 - 03/24/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Mchaggis]
    #12263269 - 03/24/10 02:43 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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45% straight leafy vegetables sounds like a recipe for the runs for me :shrug: bread and cheese please?




Yeah because that's the effect fiber has on your bowels, right?



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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #12268382 - 03/25/10 09:05 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Here is just my 2 cents I feel like I should contribute..

A close friend of mine has been vegan for 30 years.  Now she is nearing 50 years old and has some serious health issues from not eating meat in the last 30 years. 

Her reason for choosing a vegan lifestyle was just that she did not like the taste of meat.  Now under doctors orders she is eating chicken and fish to get some of the nutrients which she cannot get from veggies alone.

After one month of her changing her diet she looks way more healthy, has way more energy, and is a happier person all together.

She now too is trying to encourage her vegan friends to at least eat fish or take cod liver extract oils along with their vegan diet.

I know I cant back up any of this with scientific resources, and I have sent her an email asking what medical condition she was developing so I can relay it back here.  I am also asking her if she minds writing up a bit on her experiences with the raw food diet.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #12268408 - 03/25/10 09:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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45% straight leafy vegetables sounds like a recipe for the runs for me :shrug: bread and cheese please?




Yeah because that's the effect fiber has on your bowels, right?






Don't get me wrong some insoluble fiber's nice, it's nice pooping regularly. Unless regularly means water-shits once an hour like it would be trying to get 45% of my caloric intake from leafy greens (which are catabolic, by the way, I have no idea how you're s'posed to get any calories from stuff like iceberg lettuce)


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Mchaggis]
    #12275081 - 03/26/10 07:37 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

who claims to get lots of calories from iceburg lettuce anyways?


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: TexasMyco]
    #12276621 - 03/26/10 12:36 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Nobody I know of.  Iceberg lettuce is relatively void of any nutrition.  Again, a wide variety of food is necessary.  There are many leafy green vegetables.  Equally important to leafy greens are your fibrous vegetables such as carrots, celery, zucchini, onions, asparagus. 

45 percent, or the base of the optimal vegan diet consists of all of these...not iceberg lettuce.  Again, variety is key.


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Re: I think that raw food diets are a bunch of garbage. [Re: Mchaggis]
    #12276725 - 03/26/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I apologize for the confusion.  Leafy green is just one component of that 45 percent.  It is a lot of fibrous ingredients.  Fiber is very good for your digestion.  Both soluble and insoluble.  Remember insoluble comes out solid, not watery...

A wide variety of food is necessary to eat successfully without meat.  I believe that it can be done but you have to research it a good deal and take vitamin B supplements. 

A very important factor is making sure the body gets protein.  This is why the leafy green vegetables are so important.  Oils are also important. 

To me its like the thing about this culture is how heavy it is on meat.  Some meat can definitely help you running at a healthy level, but its benefits are greatly outweighed by the risks caused through overindulgence, especially in red meat, but really, too much animal protien from any source reeks havoc on the body.  Heart disease, most cancers,diabetes, all the #1 killers in this country can be linked to high cholesterol which can very easily be linked to a carnivorous lifestyle.


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