Vore said:

Icelander said:

Guys, thoughts you have while you trip don't belong to you.

What?

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I was caricaturing his view that a thought is not yours if it appeared while you tripped.

Guess my communication suffered.

so keep on speculating with that shamanistic babble that you're spouting at me right now.

What shamanistic babble am I spouting at you?

Again, you're assuming I support any of his ideas. McKenna is junk food for me. Leary is just as bad, but not as entertaining.

Dude, I really don't give a shit if he's entertaining or not.

I do not for one second believe the tripe that Terrence spouts about psychedelics taking us to another dimension

Neither do I, I'm merely questioning your claim that Terence McKenna is unoriginal

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Raven Gnosis said:

ClosedEyeCigarette said:

Terrence McKenna was a fraud, and was on the fringe of philosophy.

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Never realized there was and should be a median or clear cut path to walk to understand and create philosophy? if people didn't ask questions and present radical ideas that pushed and tested the boundaries of understanding, philosophy would be stagnant and never evolve, am I wrong?

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"Hay guiz, I'm gonna write boks about shroom smakin u evolve n aliens n stuff then talk about it for hours and charge money 2 hear ppl listen 2 it."

Vore said:

I just watch youtubes for free.

Nice use of graemlins, they're a good indicator of a seasoned debater.

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Since when I am I trying to debate you guys? I'm just ragging on McKenna because I don't like him.

Raven Gnosis said:

Why must you respond in such a seemingly condescending manner? Seems intellectually immature.

I'd like to see you write a thesis on how psychedelics did not and could not have played a potential role in the evolution of consciousness.  And counter argue with evidence against the current theories backed by evidence that suggest psychedelics in some instances have had a role in aiding the evolution, the progress of culture(s) and classic philosophy as we know it, whose musings were very much inspired by the likely psychedelic nature of the Kykeon used in the eleusinian mysteries...
You would be mistaken to assume that these ideas are solely his and hold no credibility. As for elves and what not, that is a different story and is not and has never been what I am discussing here.

Anyone can sit around and beat up on something, but if you are going to attack the integrity of the information, I'd like to see you intelligently deconstruct it.

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OrgoneConclusion said:

Then you must loathe Pinchbeck.

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I saw Pinchbeck at the World Psychedelic Forum in Basel a few years ago. I think the guy's a complete and utter asshole

Vore said:

It's not about following the rules, it's about understanding the purpose of the forum.

You've walked into a pie-eating contest, and are now saying "I didn't come here to eat pie."

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No, I just enjoy discussing philosophical concepts without the burden of proving my position to be right.  I think that's really boring, and I haven't been banned yet.