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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: darkproggy]
    #9179787 - 11/03/08 10:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

And I'd like to thank YOU for bumping a 6 year old thread... a Shroomery no-no.

Think any of the original posters will respond?

I'll put my money down on Anonymous.


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9180316 - 11/04/08 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

he's new, chill brah


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: darkproggy]
    #9180348 - 11/04/08 12:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Terence McKenna -> profitable crank


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: DieCommie]
    #9180365 - 11/04/08 12:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know yet, give me 4 years.  :smile:


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9180872 - 11/04/08 02:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
And I'd like to thank YOU for bumping a 6 year old thread... a Shroomery no-no.

Think any of the original posters will respond?

I'll put my money down on Anonymous.




Bumping old threads is actually encouraged in some forums, would you rather they had opened the umpteenth McKenna thread?

This thread is realy old though, I think it's the Related Threads feature, some old threads deserve to get bumped.

Anyway, Terence McKenna was neither a profit nor a crank.

He was very right about some things and very wrong about others, like anyone else.
His oratory passion and eloquence was extremely rare.

History will remember him as one of the great explorers of our time.

"To say what has never been said, to see what has never been seen. To draw, paint, sing, sculpt, dance and act what has never before been done. To push the envelope of creativity and language. What's really important is the felt presence of direct experience, which simply mean we have to stop consuming our culture. We have to create culture. Don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR! Creat your own roadshow! The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe. And if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else then you're disempowered, you're giving if all away to icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that, you want to dress like X or have lips like Y...this is shit-brained! That is all cultural diversion. What is real is you, and your friends, your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. We are told No! You're unimportant, you're peripheral, get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that and Then you're a player. You don't even what to play that game, you want to RECLAIM YOUR MIND and get it out of the hands og the cultural engineers who want to turm you in a half-baked moron consuming all this trash manufactured out of the bones of a dying world! Where is that at?" -Terrence Mckenna


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Middleman]
    #9182270 - 11/04/08 01:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Have a sense of humor Mid.


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9182312 - 11/04/08 02:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lame humor isn't funny


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Middleman]
    #9182354 - 11/04/08 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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"To say what has never been said, to see what has never been seen. To draw, paint, sing, sculpt, dance and act what has never before been done. To push the envelope of creativity and language. What's really important is the felt presence of direct experience, which simply mean we have to stop consuming our culture. We have to create culture. Don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR! Creat your own roadshow! The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe. And if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else then you're disempowered, you're giving if all away to icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that, you want to dress like X or have lips like Y...this is shit-brained! That is all cultural diversion. What is real is you, and your friends, your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. We are told No! You're unimportant, you're peripheral, get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that and Then you're a player. You don't even what to play that game, you want to RECLAIM YOUR MIND and get it out of the hands og the cultural engineers who want to turm you in a half-baked moron consuming all this trash manufactured out of the bones of a dying world! Where is that at?" -Terrence Mckenna




it's funny how many people look down on Mckenna like he's just some nut.  i'd like to see them create something like this.  gotta love him for going as far as he did.  his life was an experiment, he refused have some authority create his reality for him. "are you a dreamer?"


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: deranger]
    #9182392 - 11/04/08 02:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just wish he hadn't come up with his Time Wave theory.

Why?

'Cause when he died, the nutters took his theory as fact. Every time I see a 2012 thread, I get a little more upset at Terry.

That said, I love listening to TM talk, he did have a unique perspective, and several of his theories are quite interesting.

If anything, McKenna is food for the imagination.


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: deranger]
    #9182399 - 11/04/08 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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lame humor isn't funny




Way to double post.


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9182434 - 11/04/08 02:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Once a label is on something
It becomes an it
Like it's no longer alive

It's like a loss of vision
Or some dark impression
Or a black spot on your eye


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9182448 - 11/04/08 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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'Cause when he died, the nutters took his theory as fact. Every time I see a 2012 thread, I get a little more upset at Terry.


Why get upset at all?  People who blindly believe his theory would have blindly clung to other beliefs if his wasn't around.  Where's the harm in a few silly threads?


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Lion]
    #9182477 - 11/04/08 02:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lion, I love your sig.


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: deranger]
    #9182498 - 11/04/08 02:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks :smile:


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Lion]
    #9182534 - 11/04/08 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Lion said:
Quote:

'Cause when he died, the nutters took his theory as fact. Every time I see a 2012 thread, I get a little more upset at Terry.


Why get upset at all?  People who blindly believe his theory would have blindly clung to other beliefs if his wasn't around.  Where's the harm in a few silly threads?




The repeated discussions about 2012 get old fast. Especially since before his death, McKenna himself admitted his theory had been disproved.

But try explaining that to the nutters...

Also, if the Mayans could predict the end of time... how come they couldn't predict their own demise?


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9182556 - 11/04/08 02:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

They don't get old fast for those who enjoy participating in them.....Would you just rather everyone only discuss issues that you find worthwhile?

And how do you know the Mayans did not predict their own demise?  Maybe they didn't care! :tongue:


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Lion]
    #9182592 - 11/04/08 03:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This discussion has nothing to do with me or my feelings. Do try to stay on topic.


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: Rose]
    #9183745 - 11/04/08 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"Terence McKenna, crank or profit"

Should this read "Prophet"?. Or Mckenna: "Crank and Profit"? Or im confused


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #9183755 - 11/04/08 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He is a genius that might not have ALL of the facts but through the extent of his personal experience and his extreme thoughts I believe that there is at least a large chunk of truth that he brought and still brings to the world.

Plus he brought along the Penis Envy strain haha


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Re: Terence McKenna, crank or profit? [Re: mr_kite]
    #9183800 - 11/04/08 07:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

mr_kite said:
"Terence McKenna, crank or profit"

Should this read "Prophet"?. Or Mckenna: "Crank and Profit"? Or im confused




I LOVE Terence McKenna... but his theories were wacky.

I'm just impressed by how far outside the box he was able to think.


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