Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Myyco.com Shop: Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 |  [ show all ]
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: Icelander]
    #9003901 -

If, as he says, a man can be a beast or a god, then, you could communicate with beasts or gods.

I believe the tacit assumption is that a man is no better than a beast, until he reaches the allegorical godhood of self-realization.

Evidently, such apotheosis confers no particular power upon a man, or, else, I might be afraid to ask for fear of my safety.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9003917 -

Big fucking "if".


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: Icelander]
    #9003937 -

Again, I believe that self-realization is not physically evidenced.


--------------------
WEF defector.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/shit-burgers-meat-made-from-human-feces-just-another-natela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9003959 -

And I believe something too. Beliefs are cheap and easy to come by.


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9004094 -

durian_2008 said:
I believe the tacit assumption is that a man is no better than a beast, until he reaches the allegorical godhood of self-realization.


Please define self-realization for me.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: deCypher]
    #9004119 -

It is the point in time when man becomes better than a beast. :yesnod:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9004129 -

No way, I thought I was the only one who could do the tautology tango.

:discodance:


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #9004857 -

:rofl2:

Just when I thought there was an emoticon for EVERYTHING, I learn that there may be three for everything....!?

:strokebeard:    :strokebeard2:    :strokebeard3:    :strokebeard4:   


(had to test out the last one just to make sure the universe still had edges  :tongue: )


>^;;^<


--------------------
I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."
>^;;^<

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #9004953 -

we need a yoda with a beard, stroking it. :yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: deCypher]
    #9007642 -

The Cypher said:
durian_2008 said:
I believe the tacit assumption is that a man is no better than a beast, until he reaches the allegorical godhood of self-realization.


Please define self-realization for me.


The term has been employed by the oriental philosophers of the New Age Movement.

Self realization is said to be sentience. They equate continuity of thought to immortality, in that the cycle of reincarnation ceases upon death of physical vessel.

When the vessel realizes itself, it is then said to return to the energy of creation and merge with it.

The fact that "immortality" is offered to the doctrinally uninitiated is highly suggestive, IMHO, in that the cultists are pandering to carnal interests.

I acknowledge that I'm using emotionally loaded words, here, but I am willing to be reasonable about this, also.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9007684 -

Sentience means having sense perception, which is a quality shared by many forms of life.  Self-realization requires self-awareness, which is apparently unique to humans.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: Veritas]
    #9008106 -

In the idiomatic use of the word, sentience is equated with self awareness.

As I have specified, some equate self awareness with godhood.

As such, a beastly man may delight in solitude, because he does not like human contact to remind him of his own self awareness.

A godly man, on the other hand, may delight in solitude, because he likes to have the time to reminisce upon his own self awareness, uninterrupted.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9008117 -

Idiomatic meaning incorrect?  :lol:  When we refer to "sentient beings," does this mean humans, or are we describing all beings with sense perception?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9008118 -

IMHO, the problem with this line of thinking is that a human may wallow in self pity, being fully aware of an unhappy situation. This does not in any way give him the physical authority, which godhood confers.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: Veritas]
    #9008125 -

Veritas said:
Idiomatic meaning incorrect?  :lol:  When we refer to "sentient beings," does this mean humans, or are we describing being with sense perception?


Depends...

The meaning of words changes over time, and I did not recently "invent" this decades-old idiom, such that I should be corrected for misusing it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9008141 -

Well, perhaps it is simply that all the sources within my circle of awareness include the correct usage of this word.  Whenever I've read the term "sentient beings," it was correctly referring to animals AND humans.  :shrug:  It's not a major point, but it seems relevant when we are contrasting the metaphor of a 'wild beast' with that of a 'god."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: Veritas]
    #9008261 -

Quote:
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/sentient

  1.  Having sense perception; conscious:  "The living knew themselves just sentient puppets on God's stage"    (T.E. Lawrence).
  2. Experiencing sensation or feeling.


This definition of sentient clearly requires that senses must be perceived or experienced, doesn't it?

you missed the analysis, made several posts ago.

Quote:
As I have specified, some equate self awareness with godhood.

As such, a beastly man may delight in solitude, because he does not like human contact to remind him of his own self awareness.

A godly man, on the other hand, may delight in solitude, because he likes to have the time to reminisce upon his own self awareness, uninterrupted.


Edited by Veritas (09/30/08 02:08 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9008510 -

Self-awareness has nothing to do with sense perception.  :shrug:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: durian_2008]
    #9008530 -

.:.


--------------------
The Prophecy!

Learn To Code

Edited by blewmeanie (01/23/10 12:32 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god. [Re: Veritas]
    #9008534 -

Veritas said:
Self-awareness has nothing to do with sense perception.  :shrug:


Isnt self awareness a requirement for perception? Thats I how I understand it anyway.


--------------------
The Prophecy!

Learn To Code

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 |  [ show all ]

Myyco.com Shop: Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Religion and God
( 1 2 3 all )		 RandalFlagg 4,326 40 09/19/03 01:49 PM
by Clover
* Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 lucid 11,304 74 09/25/03 05:08 PM
by ska8ball
* Afraid of God?
( 1 2 all )		 Seeking_Gnosis 2,983 28 03/01/04 05:26 PM
by Shroomerious
* Do You Believe In God?
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )		 EffedS 7,086 92 09/08/03 09:58 AM
by Clover
* Thou shalt have no other gods before Me
( 1 2 3 all )		 falcon 3,927 41 09/16/03 01:17 PM
by gnrm23
* Dear God... Frog 2,046 18 02/14/04 02:24 PM
by Frog
* why you should believe in god
( 1 2 3 all )		 2Experimental 3,445 47 09/21/03 02:00 PM
by fireworks_god
* Lady Kills Children on Word from God
( 1 2 all )		 Swami 2,471 31 04/05/04 07:50 PM
by silversoul7

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
7,922 topic views. 1 members, 102 guests and 11 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 16 queries.