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why you should believe in god
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in a post by randalflagg:

"I believe that an intelligence exists in this universe. I will
admit that I have no proof of this and that I base this belief on a
visceral feeling that I have. I believe that this intelligence had a
hand in our creation and growth, cares for us, and has motivations
and abilities that are absolutely beyond our comprehension. I have
designated this intelligence as "god".... "

Many people have this feeling! I dont know why sometimes people wont accept that there is a higher conciousness than our human experience. I think many things in "organised" religion are bad, but alot of the values are true, and global. Why cant people understand that even if there isent a god or higher conciousness, that believing in one, without a doubt influences your life in a possitive manner, and effects your thought process and human experience?

*&rant off*

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: 2Experimental]
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"Why cant people understand that even if there isent a god or higher conciousness, that believing in one, without a doubt influences your life in a possitive manner, and effects your thought process and human experience?"

Why can't people understand that believing in a god or higher consciousness without a doubt places lots of the RESPONSIBILITY AND POWER somewhere other than WITHIN?

I think people who believe there is a set "reality" (which includes people who believe in some type of god) are being PLAYED, PIMPED, and EXPLOITED by those who realize that nothing is real except what we make up.


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Edited by Strumpling (09/16/03 10:31 PM)

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Strumpling]
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I may believe in god. But my god is no person. I dunno if i can call my god an entity. Maybe my god is that of being alive. Or the working process of the world. Is that a valid god, cause if so, i dont see how it can not exist.

God is what you make of it, i have my personal beliefs.
I dont try and argue this subject though, because my god doesnt care who your god is, because
my god is your god too ;]
my god is me, and my god is you.
my god is false, and my god is true
my god is people, black, white or blue.
my god is love, that i have unconditionally for you.
my god may be fake, or somehow untrue,
but my god is love, and lovin is what i do.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: tak]
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argh if you believe in "that of being alive" or "the working process of the world" then why would you call it GOD?

When you use the word God, most modern people still imagine you're referring to the christian bullshit.

man we need to eliminate this word from history: "GOD"

There are too many contradictory definitions for this word nowadays for it to really be very useful, IN MY OPINION, unless people are just using it for social acceptance like "yeah sure of course I believe in God" and then under their breath they say 'god = everything.'


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Edited by Strumpling (09/16/03 11:16 PM)

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Strumpling]
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man we need to eliminate this word from history: "GOD"



Although many people seem to prefer modern language when it comes to speech and their local written versions of the "word of God", I've always been partial to the "thees" and "thous". Addressing one another in this way acknowledges the divinity in each person. It was a useful method of speech. People have sterilized all the romance and depth right out of the Bible in favor of drive-thru religion.

The idea of God for most people seems to mean a personification of the uncontrollable forces in our lives. By defining Him we limit him and thus we have a handle on him- a control. We can't have someone running around running our lives without some sense of control now can we??



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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Jellric]
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"We can't have someone running around running our lives without some sense of control now can we??"

We in the United States are in this situation with our government. They are running our lives and we are losing our sense of control.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Jellric]
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I've always been partial to the "thees" and "thous".


I think arcane language creates a sort of distance to the message, so I'm an a-thee-ist. :smile:
 

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Rhizoid]
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I acknowledge the fact that there is a Creation, that the "Creator" is the guy that is this Creation in its entirety, and that I am also a Creator that shapes universes and galaxies with my hands and my mind..
Peace.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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that I am also a Creator that shapes universes and galaxies with my hands and my mind..
 



Thou art That, fireworks_god. :smile:


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Jellric]
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Jellric said:
Thou art That, fireworks_god. :smile:


Heh, we all are Gods, some of us just don't utilize our God powers.. :grin:
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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This has been one of the most intelligent discussions on god I have ever seen. Strumpling, you are so right about the word "god". I hate that word. It's one of the few words I know of that actually INHIBITS communication. I guess my views on god are that we as humans are the most refined expression of god's awareness that we know of. God's highest expression of intelligence however would be nature itself. Other than that, I don't like the word god because it limits how I can explain my spiritual views, so that's all I got to say right now.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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I am also a Creator that shapes universes and galaxies with my hands and my mind..


"Galaxies" like in the plural form of galaxy? Which galaxies bear the mark of your hands, apart from the Milky Way galaxy?

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Rhizoid]
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Rhizoid said:
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I am also a Creator that shapes universes and galaxies with my hands and my mind..


"Galaxies" like in the plural form of galaxy? Which galaxies bear the mark of your hands, apart from the Milky Way galaxy?



All the galaxies contained in my body and mind..
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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Take responsibility for your own actions. Stop blaming everything on a "higher force". We thought he was there, we went there, he's not, just give it up.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Spokesman]
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I don't see how being a believer in a personalistic God would ever take responsibility away from you and place it into the hands of God. Christianity, for instance, doesn't say God takes responsibility away from the individual. It says you have to resist Satan's temptations. That, however, doesn't ever mean you can blame Satan for a, say, murder you commit. It means you yourself have proven too weak.

Faith, if anything, encourages personal responsibility and moral actions.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
I think people who believe there is a set "reality" (which includes people who believe in some type of god) are being PLAYED, PIMPED, and EXPLOITED by those who realize that nothing is real except what we make up.



So, by your definition, would a made up "set reality" be any less real than a "real set reality"? If you want to continue among that line of thinking, I'll ask you: can we know anything at all?


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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Alan Stone]
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Hmm... boy do i have a list of questions to ask this "god" when i die........................... or whatever.... :mad2:


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Spokesman]
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There is absolutely no reason to assume any gods exist. Its mainly from fear of a random existence, and the return to nothingness upon death that all this maifests. People prepare for an afterlife while they waste away the only guaranteed time they get. Its very sad. Organized religion is an archaic institution that in today's society causes infinitely more problems than it helps.

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Alan Stone]
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Well put.

God gave us freewill. I dont understand how people miss that just because you believe in God it doesnt mean that you dont make your own choices and are rewarded or punished due to them.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Buddrow]
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There is absolutely no reason to assume any gods exist.

Do you never feel any forces around you? Cradling you in the humanity of nature or soul life?

Its mainly from fear of a random existence, and the return to nothingness upon death that all this maifests. People prepare for an afterlife while they waste away the only guaranteed time they get.

What about those who make use of every minute of their lives? Why does believing in an afterlife stop one from living their current life?
What about those who spend all their time thinking their is no God and waste their lives on nothingness? Isnt it all about what you do with your life, regardless?

Its very sad. Organized religion is an archaic institution that in today's society causes infinitely more problems than it helps.
I dunno who has been organizing your religion, but perhaps lumping all people into one box causes infinately more problems then it could ever help/


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: PsiloKitten]
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what makes you presume that this conciousness is good? or even higher for that matter?

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: PsiloKitten]
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Do you never feel any forces around you? Cradling you in the humanity of nature or soul life?


Nope.

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What about those who make use of every minute of their lives? Why does believing in an afterlife stop one from living their current life?


If you alter your actions because you are worried about judgement in death, you are living a lie and a wasted life. Even if there were such a judgement, to believe that you have any real knowledge of it is rediculous. Its just as likely you would wind up in hell for doing the things you felt would get you in heaven. What really matters is being true to yourself, and what is important to you. You>Family>Society>The World.

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What about those who spend all their time thinking their is no God and waste their lives on nothingness? Isnt it all about what you do with your life, regardless?


Basically, yes. But religion effects more than just you.

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I dunno who has been organizing your religion, but perhaps lumping all people into one box causes infinately more problems then it could ever help


I could amend that to say "supernatural-based religions". Some are obviously more damaging that others, but even at their most benign they serve little purpose beyond an "opiate for the masses".

Generalization is a survival technique. Look around the world and see that most of our problems are directly related to religious conflict. I do not judge every individual based on whether they claim to follow a certain religion, but I do feel contempt towards most religions and what they represent.

"Image no religion" John Lennon had the right idea.









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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: 2Experimental]
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It's called the collective unconcious read some carl young a dash of froid<<(I don't know about this spelling) and a sprinkle of deepok even hough too much of him will rot your mind


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: 2Experimental]
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Oh yea and read my quote apply it to any situation you want the concept of any of the major religion's gods seem absurd to me.....and that was back when I went to church.......


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Alan Stone]
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Alan Stone said:
So, by your definition, would a made up "set reality" be any less real than a "real set reality"? If you want to continue among that line of thinking, I'll ask you: can we know anything at all?


What actually validates one set of reality as real and another as not being real? Other people? Phhhh.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: 2Experimental]
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one cannot prove nor disprove the existance of a higher intelligence in the universe.

that leaves room for faith or agnosticism for the reasonable.

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: ]
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Yo Buddrow, Your on point, I dunno why alot of people interperet the feelings they get into something, and then live by it as if its been proven. Just because you think that feeling you get is God doesent make it so. Fear of a random exsistance can do alot to civilization, just look at how many religions they have made up. There are religions coming up everyday. It just so happens that the goverment you were born into was Christian, and they told you that this feeling you get is "god". I never had this feeling and if i did i doubt it's my creator trying to warn me of his existance. Does that mean that you have a god and i dont? I bet you if there IS a higher councisness around us they're laughing it up at how goable humans are of their feelings and thoughts when thats all they are, feelings and thoughts, nothing that doesent get altered in a mushroom or acid trip. Amen!


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Spokesman]
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one cannot prove nor disprove the existance of a higher intelligence in the universe.

that leaves room for faith or agnosticism for the reasonable.



This is false logic. You could apply the same thing to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Would you honestly say its "reasonable" for an adult to believe in those?

Edited by Buddrow (09/18/03 08:58 AM)

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Buddrow]
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no.

it's not reasonable (but not unreasonable) to believe in god.

that's why it's called faith.

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Buddrow]
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Buddrow said:
This is false logic. You could apply the same thing to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Would you honestly say its "reasonable" for an adult to believe in those?



Well, there isn't any proof that there is or is not a Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, so I would honestly say that it is reasonable to neither believe in them OR not believe in them.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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Believing in unproven statements does not equate with reason.

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
What actually validates one set of reality as real and another as not being real? Other people? Phhhh.
Peace.


I wasn't trying to convince you of my view. I was asking about yours. You seemed to imply (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only thing that's real is in our heads. Then what is the difference between a made up reality and a real reality pieced together from impressions of the world without?


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Buddrow]
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Buddrow said:
Believing in unproven statements does not equate with reason.


If scientists, who embody the pinnacle of rational thought, believed that, they wouldn't bother to postulate theories and subsequently test them.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Alan Stone]
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"So, by your definition, would a made up 'set reality' be any less real than a 'real set reality'?"

no I'm saying there IS NO "real set reality." I'm saying that people who REALIZE there is no real set reality can set up any kind of reality they wish (government, religions...), and those who believe there "really is a real set reality" will simply accept these virtual realities (government, religions, lifestyles, "cultures...") as "THE WAY THINGS HAVE TO BE."

Our current situation arises, I BELIEVE, from the progression of time - time has killed off the original founders of these virtual realities, these "guidelines for life" that somewhat enlightened people willed into existence generations ago.. These original reality builders (people who organize new religions, people who organize governmental structures, even those who design office buildings..) have died off and all these other scumbags have swooped in to claim the same "power" without having the same mind or motivation behind the creation of said "power/influence."

lol I don't know how else to explain the idea... but its getting quite off-topic by now..

"I'll ask you: can we know anything at all?"

I don't think so - not 100% well we know that things will always change/evolve, but that's about it.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Strumpling]
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After 3 pages I still don't believe in god.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: the universe]
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heh yeah me either..


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Strumpling]
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Nor do I.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Autonomous]
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Nope, no belief miraculously sprouting here.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Spokesman]
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Why you SHOULDN'T believe in God:

Its arrogant to think we have it all figured out, and quite insulting to "nature" to give credit elsewhere.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Alan Stone]
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Alan Stone said:
I wasn't trying to convince you of my view. I was asking about yours. You seemed to imply (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only thing that's real is in our heads. Then what is the difference between a made up reality and a real reality pieced together from impressions of the world without?


Yes, that is exactly what I am implying...

We are just Creators forming our own reality within the reality formed by a greater Creator. The "real world", like the physical attributes of this planet and so forth would be his reality, but we can bend and shape his creation to our own whims..

If something feels "real", to you, then isn't it actually real? A guy in an institution that lives in his head and has imaginary friends that appear real to him is living in his reality, and his reality is real to him. We might say that it isn't, since we don't experience his reality, we can easily just say "it is just his imagination over-reacting" or some shit, but the reality that we experience in our OWN heads is at least somewhat different than the reality expeirenced by others..
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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"We are just Creators forming our own reality within the reality formed by a greater Creator."

This is where we differ - I see this "greater Creator" as fucking government and religion and all of these boundary-building organizations.. They are creating reality for most modern people; MANUFACTURING VIRTUAL REALITIES for us to be guinea-pigs in. We're their little "AI" beings, only some of us are realizing our programming (I'm barely learning how much I was programmed early on by television [corporations], schooling [government] and church) but the majority of us is still AI, weaving through school with no specific direction, because it is "the way to go," going to church because "it is the place to go," and going to the Mall because it is the "place to $pend."

I think we need to get rid of these notions of God and guides and creators because THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HELP US even if they ARE there, so what's the point in furthering our confusion and slowing down the progress of science...

SCIENTISTS ARE GOING TO SAVE THIS PLANET; NOT THE FUCKIN POPE.


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Edited by Strumpling (09/19/03 12:45 PM)

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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If something feels "real", to you, then isn't it actually real? A guy in an institution that lives in his head and has imaginary friends that appear real to him is living in his reality, and his reality is real to him. We might say that it isn't, since we don't experience his reality, we can easily just say "it is just his imagination over-reacting" or some shit, but the reality that we experience in our OWN heads is at least somewhat different than the reality expeirenced by others..
Peace. 



This is a good point, Fire.
God or no God, your reality is YOURS, it is real to YOU. (did anyone see "A Beautiful Mind"?) Your reality may not be the same as the guy reading the newspaper next to you on the bus, but certainly to you, it is real.
There will forever be debate over whether or not there is a god. It will be argued until the end of time (whenever that may be). The only certain thing at all is the cycle of nature: Birth, Life, Death and Rebirth.
If there is a god that dictates all that for you, then fine. If it gives you hope for the weak moments in your life, more power to you. If not then, it is up to you to find hope and power from within. Both are valid.
People find a way to get comfort in many things, god not excluded. However, people's perceptions of god are certainly not above reproach.     
Just my $.02 after a long absence....... :wink: 


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Clover]
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"If something feels "real", to you, then isn't it actually real?"

No, not as a part of "collective reality" if nobody else feels it. Just like if somebody felt that on 9/10/03 there was going to be an attack the next day, and they told everybody they knew, who replied with "bah shut up Ted, you suck" then it isn't real until it actually is verified by the "collective."

If Ted is in an institution because he claims there are gnomes all over the place - they're not real. If ted is there because he claims HE SEES gnomes all over the place, then this is a real situation - ted sees gnomes - that's real. But there aren't gnomes.

The perception is always "real," but the percieved is rarely precise.


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
This is where we differ - I see this "greater Creator" as fucking government and religion and all of these boundary-building organizations..


That is all the reality that we ourselves have shaped. When I say that we are Creators, I mean every human. The "greater Creator" would be who ever is enertaining the thought of us for just a second on his time-scale... heh.

I know what you are getting at when you talk about the collective consciousness, but if almost everyone is led to believe in a lie, than the lie is true..

Anyways, my reality consists of some good fucking metal and my new bass guitar, Sirius. The rest of you can do what you want.. :grin:
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Clover]
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Clover said:
Just my $.02 after a long absence....... :wink: 


Heh, it was worth the investment, and glad to see you are back!

I was going to get into some stuff here, but it is really not on this topic specifically and is demanding of a new post.. which is, of course, fighting my hands' urges to pick up Sirius.. I think.. I can resist.. for a bit longer..
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Yes, that is exactly what I am implying...
We are just Creators forming our own reality within the reality formed by a greater Creator. The "real world", like the physical attributes of this planet and so forth would be his reality, but we can bend and shape his creation to our own whims..
If something feels "real", to you, then isn't it actually real? A guy in an institution that lives in his head and has imaginary friends that appear real to him is living in his reality, and his reality is real to him. We might say that it isn't, since we don't experience his reality, we can easily just say "it is just his imagination over-reacting" or some shit, but the reality that we experience in our OWN heads is at least somewhat different than the reality expeirenced by others..
Peace. 


I see what you mean. Thanks for elaborating.

Clover said:
This is a good point, Fire.
People find a way to get comfort in many things, god not excluded. However, people's perceptions of god are certainly not above reproach.     



Well... I do believe in godhood, I dislike the term God, however, because a notion of supremacy, judgement and whatnot are always tied to it.
God to me is the collective of all souls. We cannot know it, because the human mind is limited. We can only be submerged into it and experience our own and perhaps other parts of it. It does create, but it does not create the world without, and has never done so.
Anyway, I don't take comfort in this fact, I never ask God or whatever for help in esoteric gibberish. It's just not my style.  :cool:


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: fireworks_god]
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[quote I think.. I can resist.. for a bit longer..
Peace. 



Resist the temptation, Fire!!!!
Thanks for the welcome back  :wink: 


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Re: why you should believe in god [Re: Clover]
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Clover said:
Resist the temptation, Fire!!!!
Thanks for the welcome back  :wink: 


I have given myself now to Sirius.. heh. I find that the best thing to do is to have it continously in my lap, and play while reading or waiting for new posts (programming on Guitar Pro used to take up that time)...

I find that I cannot resist the temptation to play, as playing is what completes me.. I do eventually set it down, though, as a sign that my hands have taken way too much for the time being...

Why should you believe in God? Because of the existance of bass guitars. :grin:
Peace.


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I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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