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Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq
    #877172 - 09/11/02 09:34 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
In the House of Representatives, September 10, 2002


Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq. I am concerned there are some questions that won?t be asked ? and maybe will not even be allowed to be asked. Here are some questions I would like answered by those who are urging us to start this war.

1. Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they could retaliate?

2. Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now because we know it cannot retaliate ? which just confirms that there is no real threat?

3. Is it not true that those who argue that even with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be hiding weapons, at the same time imply that we can be more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?

4. Is it not true that the UN?s International Atomic Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?

5. Is it not true that the intelligence community has been unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at all, much less the attacks on the United States last year? Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?

6. Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no confirmed evidence of Iraq?s links to terrorism?

7. Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta and Iraqi intelligence took place?

8. Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the administration claimed al-Qaeda were hiding out, is in the control of our "allies," the Kurds?

9. Is it not true that the vast majority of al-Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called allies?

10. Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming daily occurrences; and that according to a recent UN report the al-Qaeda "is, by all accounts, alive and well and poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses"?

11. Why are we taking precious military and intelligence resources away from tracking down those who did attack the United States ? and who may again attack the United States ? and using them to invade countries that have not attacked the United States?

12. Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab world's worst suspicions about the US ? and isn't this what bin Laden wanted?

13. How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no navy or air force, and now has an army 1/5 the size of twelve years ago, which even then proved totally inept at defending the country?

14. Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents, contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted to rely on the UN for permission to go to war?

15. Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis, which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely controlled by Iran not Iraq?

16. Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000 US soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?

17. Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American casualties in a war against a country that does not have the capacity to attack the United States?

18. Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a $100 billion war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to "build democracy" there?

19. Iraq?s alleged violations of UN resolutions are given as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that hundreds of UN Resolutions have been ignored by various countries without penalty?

20. Did former President Bush not cite the UN Resolution of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason we can march into Baghdad?

21. Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States without specific approval from the United Nations?

22. If we claim membership in the international community and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity toward us by both friend and foe?

23. How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharraf in Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically-elected president?

24. Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that revealed the U.S. knowingly supplied chemical and biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as late as 1992 ? including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack on a Kurdish village?

25. Did we not assist Saddam Hussein?s rise to power by supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran, which at the time we actively supported?

26. Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or legitimate US policy?

27. Why do the oil company executives strongly support this war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?

28. Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are confident that they won?t have to personally fight this war are more anxious for this war than our generals?

29. What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it wanted?

30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?

31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?

32. Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the less likely disagreements will be settled by war?

33. Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and ? not coincidentally ? we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?

34. Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its intelligence services, was an active supporter and key organizer of the Taliban?

35. Why don't those who want war bring a formal declaration of war resolution to the floor of Congress?

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: ]
    #877246 - 09/11/02 10:02 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to see the answers to that!  :smirk:


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: ]
    #877320 - 09/11/02 10:26 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

All good questions... except the last one, I don't think the US has formally declared war on anyone since Korea.


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Phluck]
    #877497 - 09/11/02 11:18 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Excellent post Evolving...


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #878222 - 09/11/02 03:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to see the answers to that!

Get Innvertigo on the case! He'll not provide any arguments worth a damn but at least he'll say "Do you have a link for that" after every question  :grin:


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Xlea321]
    #878233 - 09/11/02 03:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I look forward to the day that CNN.COM links to The Shroomery/Political Discussion for answers to today's complex world... (err.... ' kinda!)


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Phluck]
    #879067 - 09/11/02 10:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Korea was a UN police action.

The US hasn't formally declared war on anybody since World War 2.


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Xlea321]
    #879597 - 09/12/02 04:25 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

****Get Innvertigo on the case!***

you must like me or something.....

****He'll not provide any arguments worth a damn but at least he'll say "Do you have a link for that" after every question ****

and you do? hell you make up things as you go along..nice work

seems like i hit a sore spot, you aren't going to cry are you?


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
    #879623 - 09/12/02 04:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Innvertigo is like a butthole! He talks a lotta shit. :laugh: 


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: pimpadelic]
    #879643 - 09/12/02 04:58 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

oh now that was compelling.....


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
    #879652 - 09/12/02 05:01 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Innvertigo has nothin better to do but sit in the politcal forum all day and try to sound smart.


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: pimpadelic]
    #879670 - 09/12/02 05:12 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Invertego is a valuable asset to the community.

We should be thankful that he hasn't given up the fight and gone away.

What fun would this forum be if everyone agreed with each other.


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #879685 - 09/12/02 05:27 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yes
We need the ignorant to spark discussion, and for amusement purposes.


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: pimpadelic]
    #879708 - 09/12/02 05:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

well you said it..I sound smart. Thanks alot it's good to see that you think that

unfortunatly you pop in and never sound smart....at least i have the balls to stand up for what i believe..unlike many who ride on the coattails of their socialist bretheren.

and who are you again?


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: CURE]
    #879709 - 09/12/02 05:38 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

****We need the ignorant to spark discussion****

and that's why we let you speak your mind Puppet


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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: CURE]
    #879934 - 09/12/02 07:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Please lets not get into personal flaming, ok folks?

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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #880634 - 09/12/02 03:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)


"Invertego is a valuable asset to the community"

Asset = small ass (devoid of brains)
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Re: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #881097 - 09/12/02 11:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Senior Doobie:
"Invertego is a valuable asset to the community.
We should be thankful that he hasn't given up the fight and gone away.
What fun would this forum be if everyone agreed with each other."

This is true! I've been to some forums that are little more than pow-wow sessions for a bunch of posters with the same gripe or the same cause. Sometimes pow-wows are alright--you know, let off some steam, get a reinvigorating shot of mutual support, stuff like that.

But a good thing this forum has going for it is a diverse representation of ideas. Otherwise, not only woud it get boring fast, but it would be left to question its own purpose in life.

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