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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1364524 - 03/11/03 04:01 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

not really.



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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1364530 - 03/11/03 04:05 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Ofcourse not in YOUR mind or whatever you call it....


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1364537 - 03/11/03 04:11 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Your logic is backwords my friend.

Why would we need to attack countries that we already import oil form?
We are attacking Iraq precicely because they are NOT our #1 oil importer - but they soon will be.

And the import volume doesn't motivate conquest. What motivates it is the oil reserves that exist in Iraq, which I believe is the second largest in the world after Saudi Arabia (correct me if I'm wrong).



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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1364552 - 03/11/03 04:18 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Why would we need to attack countries that we already import oil form?



we imported oil from Iraq as well...

Quote:

We are attacking Iraq precicely because they are NOT our #1 oil importer - but they soon will be.



did you here that on the BBC?

so you're guessing huh?


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Learyfan]
    #1364562 - 03/11/03 04:23 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by

U.S. tanks with ploughs mounted on the front?

A: 6,000




True or untrue?

Discuss......



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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1364567 - 03/11/03 04:26 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

"we imported oil from Iraq as well..."

why import when you can steal?

"did you here that on the BBC?

so you're guessing huh?"

You misunderstand. The statement "We are attacking Iraq precisely because they are NOT our #1 oil importer" was meant to indicate that we would not attack a country that we import a lot of oil from, not to give a specific reason for attacking.

I believe it's a combination of factors, including oil.


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Learyfan]
    #1364578 - 03/11/03 04:29 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by

U.S. tanks with ploughs mounted on the front?

A: 6,000


I don't know about the ploughs ... seems kind of implausible.

But we DID bomb retreating peasent soldiers in the infamous "Highway of Death".
I'm surprised that they didn't mention the bombing of the bomb shelter(!).


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1364583 - 03/11/03 04:31 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I know. I don't see how they could plow 6,000 live people into a hole. Did they just stand there, or what?



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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Learyfan]
    #1364597 - 03/11/03 04:35 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe they were buried in the trenches when the tanks passed over them. It could be based on fact but 6,000 seems a little high.



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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1364632 - 03/11/03 04:50 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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kinda blows the "it's all about oil" argument eh?


Please explain how that blows my argument apart? The amount Canada sells it to the U.S. for is considerably more than what the U.S. could get it for from Iraq once they are in control...if anything that just strengthens my case.


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1364687 - 03/11/03 05:09 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

why import when you can steal?



i thought you were coming from facts, but i see that you are assuming. I can accept that.

Quote:

I believe it's a combination of factors, including oil.



i can't say that i believe that only because the evidence that shows it's for oil is very argumentative, hear-say, and subjective.

I am however, not naive to think that it isn't involved somehow.


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Rono]
    #1366155 - 03/11/03 02:02 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Please define pointlessness.

Yes I would rather die then live under Saadam. This apparently is the difference between me and you.



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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: ]
    #1366192 - 03/11/03 02:15 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't realize we were in danger of invasion by Iraq... :smirk: 


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1366196 - 03/11/03 02:17 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Explain to me what you think this war is about. Convince me that it has nothing to do with Self determination of the Iraqi people, and their Economic and physical security. Their ability to choose what their lives will become.

The only argument I have heard is that you don't want to kill Innocent Iraqis in the process of Freeing them. No-one supporting war wan'ts to kill innocent Iraqis either. We want Saadam and his Regime. We want him to actually comply with the agreements to disarm. We want him to do this or we will do it for him. He had twelve years to comply. Diplomacy had twelve years to work. Diplomacy only works when all sides are actually doing what they said they will do. The world lived up to it's agreement not to Remove Saadam, he did not live up to the Disarming side of this agreement.

You may be content to turn a blind eye, lift the sanctions, and let him continue to do WHATEVER HE WANTS, at the expense of HIS people. I am not. My president is not, and the majority of Americans are not. America is not alone.


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Learyfan]
    #1366209 - 03/11/03 02:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

How about....


What Caused WWII?

Appeasement

How many Lives could have been saved, if hitler was forced to comply to the Treaty of Versallies (spelling?) and stopped before Germany even had a Military?

Millions.

Would allowing Iraq to violate treaties it signed, as well as violate U.N. resolution after resolution be Appeasement?

Yes.

Is the Economic situation simular in Iraq as it was in Germany after WWI?

Yes, both are very bad economicly

Are Hitler and Saddam simular?

Yes, they are both Totalitarian Dictators.


I feel bad for the civilians that will be lost in the potential war, but giving a Dictator like Saddam the freedom to break treatys could potentially cause ALOT more harm.


EDIT: oh and

Could the U.S. taken all the oil it wanted after the Golf war?

Yes

Did it?

No


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Xibalba]
    #1366223 - 03/11/03 02:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Without provactaion. Twelve years of Non-Appliance with International WILL. Not just the USA, but every nation that supported the Removal of Iraq from Kuwait.

Good luck.



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    #1366252 - 03/11/03 02:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

That was a very nice blindly patriotic speech but Good Lord..there is so many mistakes in your logic I don't know where to start...Iraq has been bending backwards trying to disarm...yet still Bush pushes for war...Why is the U.S. so concerned with Iraq, when it's own neighbours aren't? Do you sincerely believe that the U.S. is going into Iraq for humanitarian reasons? If you do, then I can't fault you for your beliefs, no matter how naive I think they are.

As for making a better life for it's citizens...The UN sanctions are what made Iraq poor and destitute inthe first place. 12 years ago Iraq was a thriving country and a close 'friend' of the U.S.

You are right about one thing...the U.S. is not alone, but the majority of the world is not blind, and can see the injustice of a pre-emptive strike against Iraq


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Sombie]
    #1366258 - 03/11/03 02:40 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Could the U.S. taken all the oil it wanted after the Golf war?



Did they actually take control of Iraq in the Gulf war?...No, so obviously they can't take oil from a country that they did not control.


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Learyfan]
    #1369565 - 03/12/03 03:30 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I am going to use this on the upcoming vigil on sunday.....

thanks for compiling that.... :laugh:


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Re: War on Iraq IQ test [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1373751 - 03/13/03 07:59 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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I completely disagree with the infered link between depleted uranium and cancer. I've personally handled DU artillery shells and so have thousands of US soldiers and there's no change in cancer rates. There's been enough research done to know conclusivly that it's not very toxic at all. DU actually has about the same toxicity as ordinary lead.


I think its quite obvious Saddam cancered his own people.


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