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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Sclorch]
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So, he can provide us with evidence. Cool. Where is it?

er....in the book?

It's called "Physics of the soul". And i think Goswami knows a little more about science than you.


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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Xlea321]
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I meant empirical (read experimental) evidence.

Tell me how I can find this evidence NOW. I'm not going to run all over the world trying to find a copy of some obscure book that proves the existence of the afterlife.

Do me a favor and quote the ENTIRE proof. Right here. Right now.


And i think Goswami knows a little more about science than you.
Get over your pettiness. It's really fucking annoying to see someone with a decent chunk of gray matter, such as yourself, resorting to personal attacks (especially shitty personal attacks... Science isn't exactly foreign to me).


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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Swami]
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i think the reason you never recovered is because you never gave love a second chance... are you happier now than when you allowed yourself to love?

always remember that love gives freedom and doesn?t take it away... unconditional love is there for someone who doesn?t even have to love you back... thats the way god loves us...

In reply to:
Letters, phone calls, and prayers all went unanswered.



are you trying to say that you believed in god before all this happened? are you trying to say that you used to pray? and you are blaming god and love (actually the same thing) on this one girl?

listen, i am really sorry for what happened to you... but you need to let go... give yourself another chance... love yourself and love other people... love life itself...


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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Swami]
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It is possible, but I see no evidence for a soul or whatever terminology you choose to use. What would lead you to believe in such a thing except for the words of others?

Well I don't wholeheartedly believe in "such a thing" but I'm pretty sure I gave an example in my last post. A baby does not possess any of the characteristics that you determined are extinguished upon death but it still realizes that something is going on, does it not?

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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: In(di)go]
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I appreciate your good intentions but I think that Swami needs love instead of platitudes right now. Perhaps that is your way of showing that you care but not everyone takes such remarks that way.

I think empathy is better taken when it evidences itself by showing kindness without advice, unless it is asked for, and it wasn't.

I am reminded of a therapist I had once. His solution to everything was: Cheer up.

It didn't help.

Cheers,

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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Sclorch]
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Do me a favor and quote the ENTIRE proof. Right here. Right now.

You mean type out a 500 page book? Sorry man, i don't have the time.

There's plenty of other books on this subject - do a search at amazon and pick one up.


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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: ]
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i know what you are trying to say... and i agree completely that swami needs love, and not philosophical advice... but my point is how can he experience what he needs if he does not believe in it?


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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: In(di)go]
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Perhaps the experience can come first and then the belief. I did not believe in love until somebody loved me. When I got it, really got it, and they proved beyond any doubt, I knew that love was real. Until then it was just a fairy tale for grown-ups. And through her love I felt that maybe God existed and maybe God cared. At the time God was just another way to mock my pain. Even after the loving I still had a long way to go before I came to the conclusion that God could be real. I am, without a doubt, a hard customer.

"God is a concept by which we measure, our pain."

JWL

Cheers,

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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Xlea321]
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If it takes 500 pages to prove something... it's probably not proof, it's rhetoric.


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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Sclorch]
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If I had to pick one book as my "bible", (which is an unwise thing to do, but regardless...)

It would be Dancing Wu Li Masters... The first time I read it, I was about 15, it has had a huge impact on how I percieve things.

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Re: No Heaven, No Hell... [Re: Sclorch]
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If it takes 500 pages to prove something... it's probably not proof, it's rhetoric.

Well there's only one sure way to find out isn't there?


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