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Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you?
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And why?


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Albert Hofmann, because he's 103 fer chrissake.

Also Terence McKenna. He wraps some of his ideas in a wacky brand of tripper mysticism, but all he's trying to do is illustrate his underlying points about art and culture. It's very interesting to really think about his weird, but sensible statements.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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For me it would have to be 'The Moody Blues' rock band. Their ethereal melodies and deep lyrics got me wondering what they were going on about.

And Joni Mitchell's 'Woodstock' really captured my imagination and longing to be part of a cultural paradigm shift.

But it was Castaneda that really set the hook with his whopper tales of alternate realities. :fishing:

McKenna rekindled my interest after a log time away.

And mad props to the founder(s) and members of 'The Shroomery' for keeping the whole wacky thing alive. :thumbup:


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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But it was Castaneda that really set the hook with his whopper tales of alternate realities.


He hooked my attention as well. Castaneda and The Moody Blues with a little Pink Floyd on the side.

A special note on Castaneda. I read them all as a teen and a young man, but by age 33 I had hit a very low point in my life. Alcoholism and cynicism had taken their toll. I reread Journey to Ixtlan at my lowest point and I was inspired to take my life by the reins and regain control. Every year since then that investment has tripled...except for this last year where it was returned 1000 fold. I feel like I owe a lot to that man whether he was a liar or not.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Aldous Huxley- because he was so ahead of his time that his desciption of his experience was totally raw and honest and not at all trite or derivative.

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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my bad, didn't read the thread title well

none of them, really. i don't care much for the 'psychedelic' writers out there and prefer to go by my own experiences


although, alan watts does have some interesting ideas


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channel your inner Larry David

Edited by demius (03/10/08 09:48 AM)

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: demiu5]
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aint no drug like jesus what what :psychsplit:


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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Mr. Azurescen.:mushroom2:
Who without notice brought the christ into my living room.


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: backfromthedead]
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Without a doubt, for me, Ram Dass has had the largest impact on my personal trip of any of the well-known psychedelic 'personalities' out there.

The first psychedelic literature I read was Huxley's Doors of Perception and that really hooked me.  McKenna was also a big influence because his accounts affirmed my hopes that there are truly strange, otherworldly experiences to be had just around the corner of ordinary waking consciousness. :mushroom2:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Alfred E Neuman.

He prepared all those young minds for the psychedelic experience.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: Icelander]
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Myself... I dont want to sound selfish, but I learned much insight on my own. Which later I find out that many other fellow pyschonaughts, such as mckenna and Leary shared many of the same ideas.


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"Psychedelics should be used not to escape reality, but to embrace it"


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: danlennon3]
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He's not considered a psychedelic progenitor but Martin Torgoff wrote a very good book about drugs in America. I can't remember the title but it rekindled my interest in drugs, particularly psychedelics.

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: Boots]
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Aldous Huxley, Door of perception. Brilliant, i read it after my second trip on mescaline, and was like "oh my, i felt so similar, and experienced pretty much the same thing.."


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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher. - Ambrose Bierce

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: flangenips]
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Justin Timberlake:egyptian:

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: 2end4]
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For me it would be Lewis Carroll as he polluted my young and naive mind with stories of madness and hallucinations. It is him who sparked my interest into going down the rabbit hole.

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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A Time-Life book entitled The Mind, one of a series of science books, had a chapter on drugs (which was later edited from that book!). It introduced me to LSD, Maria Sabina, mushrooms, Gordon Wasson, Havelock Ellis, mescaline, hashish and hypnosis! That was in 1965-66 and it primed my curiosity.

After the cannabis products I began to use New Years Eve 1968-69, a session on Sandoz Psilocybin, and a couple of Heavenly Blue Morning Glory seed trips by 1971, I was ready for Windowpane LSD in July 1972, following which I began to read Casteneda's second book, A Separate Reality, followed by the first and all the others. I was ripe for the Florida 'shrooms which I tried in Long Island NY while in college. Magick gave rise to an interest in mysticism following a few more acid trips and Zen supplanted magickal experimentation, which yielded to Yoga after a college chum handed me a copy of BE HERE NOW during a psychedelic struggle I was in. After that, Ram Dass became the person who influenced me to pursue psychotherapy as well as Yoga. I based my dissertaion on an insight I gleaned from Ram Dass' first book The Only Dance There Is, and so he would have to be the most influential.

Of personal meetings, let me not forget Jean Houston (The Varieties of Psychedelic Experience), who had kind things to say and write about me during a workshop with her. I met Tim Leary twice, Walter Houston Clark, and I had a brief mail correspondence with Albert Hofmann - all of whom have been influential in my development. Of writers, there have been many but Alan Watts and Aldous Huxley are the most prominent in my mind.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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hmmm, mushrooms basically opened me up to a new realm. And ever since then I've tried to explain this.

I wouldn't credit JUST him even though he is credited with writing the Daodejing, Lao Tzu would have to be the greatest progenitor for me into this realm.

Alan Watts just confirmed/reminded my thoughts after the fact and made better sense of how to explain "this"


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: Cracka_X]
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Tao Te Ching (Daodejing? What a confusing language) on acid is simply stunning. :yesnod:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (03/11/08 04:20 PM)

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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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How do you keep the letters from scurrying off the page? :confused:


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Re: Which psychedelic progenitor had the greatest affect on you? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
Tao Te Ching (Daodejing? What a confusing language) on acid is simply stunning. :yesnod:


Tao Te Ching, Tao Teh Ching, Daodejing...

tomaytoe tomahtoe.  I used to type Tao teh ching but like daodejing as I it's like typing one word.

depending on what you read will the author use a certain translation.  Chinese can be translated/interpreted several ways.  So if you want to grasp that writing slightly more then it's good to read several different interpretations.  :smile:


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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