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 redgreenvines
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 Re: my two cents  [Re: pattern]
#7846953 - 01/08/08 06:37 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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good points
an open mind makes sense, but mcKenna's idea of genetic change is plain dumb;
letting your consideration blend with his DNA theory is not good in any sense(, except for schmoozing while buying more dope from people who praise mckenna, and there are an abundance of short loop thinkers like that).
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Re: A Theory of Psychedelics [Re: pattern]
#13685455 - 12/26/10 01:57 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow I love this discussion! Great theories and relevance, thanks for all the input Shroomery community!
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Re: A Theory of Psychedelics [Re: Jigsaw]
#13686226 - 12/26/10 11:10 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dolphins, chimps, and lots of other animals are self aware and have "intelligence". Also neanderthals had a culture which included things like make-up. There are also a few other very human like species that existed at the same time as humans for a while. This theory is most likely bullshit.
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Re: A Theory of Psychedelics [Re: 4896744]
#13689136 - 12/27/10 12:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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darwin is a relative perspective
perspectives lead way to evidence, confirming theory
scientists use logic, reason, inquiry , as best they can, to know the truth, the problem is hypothesis always governs experiment and experiment without hypothesis leads to a random unified theory of something, and the basis of all this is YOU , the self, spinning knowledge in the hed
for example, one may investigate, diligently , the types of thing darwin did, and come to find we did not in any way "descend" ) you mean ascend ? ?? and/or/etc/what?) from monkeys,
? how is his information real ? he is gathering a process which is real enough but to explain anything about that process is where the trickiness of reality is . subjective . lee .
evolution as he sees it may not be what he is seeing into it , know what i mean ?
man wants the truth :
man devotes time to discovery :
psychedelic, meditation,
scriptures,
science
he uses some sort of instrument, all the while HE is the ONE using it , know what i mean ?
he finds things,
if he studies the Bible he confirms God to himself , or dis confirms, if he uses a microscope, if he uses a mushroom, see what i mean ? arbitrary and relative
no need to be religious about science, dogmatic science ?
the hindus had a ton of technology and supposedly flying machines, they sure did wrote about FLYING MACHINES, so , their inquiry was internal in meditation ?
relative ?
FOOD FOR THOUGHT .
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4896744
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Re: A Theory of Psychedelics [Re: leery11]
#13689756 - 12/27/10 07:31 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
leery11 said:
darwin is a relative perspective
perspectives lead way to evidence, confirming theory
scientists use logic, reason, inquiry , as best they can, to know the truth, the problem is hypothesis always governs experiment and experiment without hypothesis leads to a random unified theory of something, and the basis of all this is YOU , the self, spinning knowledge in the hed
for example, one may investigate, diligently , the types of thing darwin did, and come to find we did not in any way "descend" ) you mean ascend ? ?? and/or/etc/what?) from monkeys,
? how is his information real ? he is gathering a process which is real enough but to explain anything about that process is where the trickiness of reality is . subjective . lee .
evolution as he sees it may not be what he is seeing into it , know what i mean ?
man wants the truth :
man devotes time to discovery :
psychedelic, meditation,
scriptures,
science
he uses some sort of instrument, all the while HE is the ONE using it , know what i mean ?
he finds things,
if he studies the Bible he confirms God to himself , or dis confirms, if he uses a microscope, if he uses a mushroom, see what i mean ? arbitrary and relative
no need to be religious about science, dogmatic science ?
the hindus had a ton of technology and supposedly flying machines, they sure did wrote about FLYING MACHINES, so , their inquiry was internal in meditation ?
relative ?
FOOD FOR THOUGHT .
No, it is not all relative. You obviously are ignorant on the topic of evolution due to your comment on us descending from monkeys. Science gives us tangible things like the internet, medicine, etc. Things like the Bible give us nothing tangible. All they can do in best case scenarios is make you feel better.
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stanleyhaze
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 Re: A Theory of Psychedelics [Re: 4896744]
#26416037 - 01/04/20 01:19 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is a really old post, but i came across it, searching for profound evidence, cows living naturally in their natural habitat being herded by more or less natural farmers providing milk that has traces of psilocybin in it and therefor makes the people consuming that milk (and butter, cheese, yogurt, kefir etc) from these smarter, more efficient, happier and and inventive to make it over the very cold and hard winters one gets exposed to in the, let's say, alps.
this is where i'm from and this is where you can find psilocybe semilanceata on almost any meadow you visit between end september and early december.
i've once read about tim leary's idea on this, but couldn't find any further information. so i've landed here and found this thread. had to register to post this, put everything happens for a reason (or no reason and just for the fun of it)
i personally highly respect pislocybin and especially psilocybin found in semilanceatas. i've had many various kinds of pislocybin mushrooms, but seMILANceata has my son's name in its name and has taught me many lessons, made me believe.
i don't know if it's so important to think, it's just us tripping. i'm sure, the cows get their dose of mushrooms and it connects these even more to the source. just like it connects us to the source. have you ever connected to the cows while searching and tripping with your friends (and maybe a dog NOT on a leash!)? they don't mind. these animals are huge and they don't mind. they must be high.
anyhow. the mushroom needs us (or any other live form capable of finding, identifying, eating, digesting and feeling) to experience itself. it's almost as it wants to tell you about itself. i've had many questions and could direct answer. go in with a question. it's nice to experience and enjoy all the colors and patterns and action. but the real thing might be to ask questions and see how it works. just like real life. the kids are stoked to see new stuff and forms and colors and find out. but we have to develop methods to work with this stuff and i am sure, we can sort things out in that other dimension to live in peace and harmony in this reality. that's what shamans and leaders have been doing for ages.
these mushrooms are hightech swag. maybe they want us to build a space ship to get back to their anestors' planet and us away before it's too late. who knows.
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sudly
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Re: A Theory of Psychedelics [Re: stanleyhaze]
#26416413 - 01/04/20 05:45 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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This relationship to cows is represented throughout Aztec culture, artwork and religion. Not so much the space ships. Yet, with Space Force on the horizon.
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