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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Death
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What is death to you?

The Liberation of Awareness? Unconsciousness?

Is it not the death of "You", but rather the death of all materiality; the destruction of one's individual form and their own world, a personal 'end times' if you will?

I find death to be the opening of a cage that I have been trapped in, preventing me from ending my personal exile from splitting Origin. Death for me re-constructs the Divine identity that was my project while in the form.

It is as if this world is an emptied fish tank, I am a fish unable to breath in uniformity, and death is the flood of divine waters, drenching - allowing myself to breath and exist unbounded by the flawed condition.

If the Divine were to water, and the Divine desired to be Known, to create the hunger in the heart She casts the earthen vessels like fish onto land. The motive of the heart is clear: Return home. With physical death the flood gates of the divine open, quenching the desire of trapped awareness to return to Grand Awareness.

If one has forgotten himself and has become pure awareness, what is the experience of death?

If one is consumed with himself, what is the experience of death?

For the self-consumed, absorbed and somatical, does not death automatically shatter, destroy or disintegrate the ego that he attempts to take with him at death?


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

Edited by Basilides (04/10/06 06:18 AM)

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Re: Death [Re: Basilides]
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For the self-consumed, absorbed and somatical, does not death automatically shatter, destroy or disintegrate the ego that he attempts to take with him at death?


Do people try to take their ego with them? Like you said, it is the "Liberation of Awareness" which I believe describes the ego, awareness. Further, I feel, or like to think maybe, that a large part of death is the letting go of the ego, letting go of awareness as we know it; and those that may struggle to let it go, if they do, death surely will still take it.


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channel your inner Larry David

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Re: Death [Re: demiu5]
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something
nothing
the end of time as we use it.

an opportunity for monkeys to play power politics, by promissing what they cannot know.


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Re: Death [Re: Basilides]
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Death is a burning library of many books. A loss of information, and a loss of opportunity. The Universe is a much better place with you inside of it, I assure you.

If I had a chance to live until the end of the cosmos and stay youthful, I would. Think of all you would learn, all you would expirence, all you would become. I'm not afraid of death... I just see it as unnecessary. Death has directly and indirectly killed millions. How can death be dealt indirectly? Religious belief.

However, science CAN and WILL overcome this obstacle.

http://www.imminst.org/SCOD/index/html/index.html


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.

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Re: Death [Re: psyka]
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Death has directly and indirectly killed millions. How can death be dealt indirectly? Religious belief.


Death doesn't kill anyone. It is the act, if you want to call it that...process maybe?, of dying. Again, I guess it goes back to we are all dying as we go along. Death is just viewed as the last final grasp or exsistence of measured time.

I don't understand what you mean by dealing with death indirectly, and how it connects to religion, please explain what you mean. It seems interesting.


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channel your inner Larry David

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Re: Death [Re: demiu5]
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Death is a part of life. It's a cycle of nature; life and death is the same.

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Re: Death [Re: psyka]
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If I had a chance to live until the end of the cosmos and stay youthful, I would.

You're the first person I've ever heard say that.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Death [Re: Basilides]
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It is the end of one's experience as a particular individual.


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Re: Death [Re: demiu5]
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What is the purpose of most religion? Salvation.
What is the direct cause of religion? War and, thus death.

After all Akbar KNOWS without a sliver of doubt that when he dies he is going to heaven, however Simon believe's he is a sinner and thus going to hell. Who will win the holy war? Home team, or the visiting? Which one is which... *coin toss*


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.

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Re: Death [Re: Basilides]
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They call it "the mortal coil" I believe, because it holds all your personal energy together.  We are energy machines, diverting, harvesting and sharing it with others.  Sometimes we steal it or force it from people as well.

When the mortal coil goes, the energy is released.  Beyond that I cant be sure.  Beyond that it doesnt matter if Im sure :heart:


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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.

~Casil



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Re: Death [Re: dblaney]
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dblaney said:
You're the first person I've ever heard say that.


Well, I second that motion. What, exactly, would be so entirely terrible about being a 20 year old until the end of time? There are endeavors in which I am involved with right now that could each easily take a few lifetimes to truly master, and a great multitude more that I am deeply interested in.

What arguement could be raised agansit such an incredibly long life?

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Death [Re: fireworks_god]
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What arguement could be raised agansit such an incredibly long life?

None, it's a matter of preference. My biological body is not made for indefinite life, and I'm fine with that. If it was designed to live indefinitely, then I'd be fine with that too. I just don't think I'd go out of my way to find the fountain of youth.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Death [Re: fireworks_god]
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then you have no choice
you must smoke lots of salvia


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Re: Death [Re: redgreenvines]
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:lol:

I haven't communed with the revered green lady in a while.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Death [Re: dblaney]
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dblaney said:
What arguement could be raised agansit such an incredibly long life?

None, it's a matter of preference.


Thus, what arguement could be raised agansit it?

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I just don't think I'd go out of my way to find the fountain of youth.


And which way is "your way"? :grin:

Science travels ever further down the path of discovering the fountain of youth, and yet it isn't going out of the scientist's way... it is their way. :wink:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Death [Re: fireworks_god]
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Thus, what arguement could be raised agansit it?

Or for it?

And which way is "your way"?

Why, the way of the Godhead of course! :smile:

Science travels ever further down the path of discovering the fountain of youth, and yet it isn't going out of the scientist's way... it is their way.

Well to be fair there are some scientists who seek that sort of thing, but there are many more who don't. What's the point of having perpetual youth if perpetual suffering will come with it? Better to eliminate suffering first. And how can you eliminate suffering if you're lusting after constant youth?


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Death [Re: dblaney]
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dblaney said:
Or for it?


I've already raised my arguement for it. :wink:

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Why, the way of the Godhead of course! :smile:


The way which cannot be named? :grin:

Quote:
Well to be fair there are some scientists who seek that sort of thing, but there are many more who don't. What's the point of having perpetual youth if perpetual suffering will come with it?


An eternity to work at eliminating suffering? :lol: The point, of course, and I'm sure it is your point as well, is that eliminating suffering can be done within a moment. :grin:

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And how can you eliminate suffering if you're lusting after constant youth?


I'm not sure, but I do know that studying into manners in which one can maintain constant youth doesn't, in itself, prevent one from being without suffering.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Death [Re: dblaney]
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And how can you eliminate suffering if you're lusting after constant youth?

Paxil. :tongue:

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Re: Death [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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All you progressive, enlightened individuals are members of the Immortality Institute... no? If you're not: Firstly, I'm entirely disappointed in you naughty rumpkins! Secondly, I'd highly suggest joining. It's only five dollars and everyone once 'n awhile they send you free shit. I've recieved two books, a few DVD's, and a bunch of L-arginine from them. Not to mention, your mailman will think you're somebody very important.

http://www.imminst.org/

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Re: Death [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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does matter have a soul, do atoms, and protons and dirt and water and all that good stuff have a soul? chances are no. so what makes one believe that all that stuff meshed together to make a human would all of the sudden produce a soul.

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