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InvisibleHuehuecoyotl
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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3769309 - 02/11/05 11:24 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

"More enlightened" is a far cry from "I am enlightened", though.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3769479 - 02/11/05 11:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Full Enlightenment is different from Cessation or Nirvana. The latter come from the liberation from ego and all suffering. Full Enlightenment is a superior mind, with the power to understand, control and manifest all things, which is dedicated to the task of bringing happiness and liberation to all other beings.

The reason this is considered a higher Enlightenment is because the liberation does not happen on behalf of the self, but rather for others. In this way it avoids the subtle imprints of selfishness that Hinayanist, or solitary paths fail to completely destroy. Enlightenment on behalf of the individual self is somewhat of a contradiction in terms.


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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3770321 - 02/12/05 08:01 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:

I know the poster was looking for a word that better describes his feelings thoughts and experience. The closest I can come to finding more accurate wording for it is being in a state of epiphany.




epiphany? i like it!  :thumbup:


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"I traveled a long way seeking God, but when I finally gave up and turned back, there He was, within me! O Lalli! Now why do you wander like a beggar? Make some effort, and He will grant you a vision of Himself in the form of bliss in your heart." -the saint of the Kashmir Shaivism tradition: Lalli.

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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: JCoke]
    #3770344 - 02/12/05 08:16 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

stop talking and you'll hear it :smile:

and like others have said, I don't think enlightenment is a place so much as a relative observation. It is gradient and infinite, although, in a sense, we are all already there as one being.

really doesn't matter though

be happy and share the fun :cool:


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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #3770412 - 02/12/05 08:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Is enlightenment something that can be expressed?
or is it something that is gained?


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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: spidercid]
    #3770417 - 02/12/05 08:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Both and Neither.


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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: Sinbad]
    #3771316 - 02/12/05 03:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I keep wondering: is there a thing like gradual enlightenment or is there just some kind of bang and it all happens in no time ?
Well whatever, it?ll turn out different than I imagine anyhow.
But still I?m interested, what do you guys think ?

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Re: I did it...! i finally reach enlightenment!!! [Re: trinity7]
    #3771465 - 02/12/05 04:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

There are both gradual, and non-gradual approaches to the path of enlightenment.

But generally if one wakes up instantainiously, that realization does'nt last for long as one has to constantly train in that state to become familair anf stable with that realization.

The gradual path requires the accumilation of both merit and wisdom, through positive actions and meditation. Of course i am speaking purely within a buddhist context.


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