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Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend.
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I've always assumed, for a while anyway, that god didn't have an agenda because god is, was, will be and so he isn't at the whim of time.. time and space as we know it are mute to god. If this was so then there would be no need for us because the system would be perfect negating the need for us and our "why? why not."

So my thoughts on god not writing his own history, so to speak, are flawed. If we are here then god is governed by some sort of clock and even god must trancend himself. What sort of agenda could there be then. I'm assuming you would need to understand "god space" to even guess at such a question. I'm sure a great deal of people here have 'seen' what can't be explained or imagined.

Any thoughts on the impossible agenda?

If there is an answer for god's "why?" then is it just a system that keeps complexing the meaning of the word "why?" until enlightenment to another impossible "why?"

The system has no beginning or ending. a question so complex that even god is asking his own sort of "why?" to the point where the clock gets a new complex motion; a new impossible gear.

Is the answer really as simple as, "Why?? Why not."

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Raedon]
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Well I have no idea, but reading your post reminded me of the bible verse that says "God conceals himself from those who think they are smart, and reveals his ways to the childlike". I don't know, its a great question though what patterns and ruels does God follow?

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Turn]
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If the bible says God has to hide from smart people to play peek-a-boo with kids then..

well, that sounds about right actually..

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Raedon]
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Raedon said:
I've always assumed, for a while anyway, that god didn't have an agenda because god is, was, will be and so he isn't at the whim of time.. time and space as we know it are mute to god.  If this was so then there would be no need for us because the system would be perfect negating the need for us and our "why? why not."

  So my thoughts on god not writing his own history, so to speak, are flawed.  If we are here then god is governed by some sort of clock and even god must trancend himself.  What sort of agenda could there be then. I'm assuming you would need to understand "god space" to even guess at such a question.  I'm sure a great deal of people here have 'seen' what can't be explained or imagined. 

Any thoughts on the impossible agenda?

  If there is an answer for god's "why?" then is it just a system that keeps complexing the meaning of the word "why?" until enlightenment to another impossible "why?"

The system has no beginning or ending. a question so complex that even god is asking his own sort of "why?" to the point where the clock gets a new complex motion; a new impossible gear. 

Is the answer really as simple as, "Why??  Why not."


"God" and the "Creator" in the big picture are so beyond the comprehension of your everyday human thinking, that trying to figure it out will just run you in circles and waste your time.

Its like trying to figure out how to build your own time machine.

Instead I choose to be happy, be kind to my earth, surroundings, and my fellow man...and live life as it comes. Then someday I will die. In the whole time I lived and died, compared to the time of the earth and the universe itself...it seems my life in general was completely irrelevant in the first place.

So in the short time your here, why pest yourself with questions you, nor anybody else is going to be able to answer?

:2cents: = irrelevant

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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I find that even with my limited CNS and short life span it's fun to discuss Philosophy & Spirituality in the Philosophy & Spirituality forum.

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Raedon]
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I thought God was a She?

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Raedon]
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Please define G-d before you choose to speak of him.

If you are referring to the Judeo-Christian omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent notion of G-d, then I find your inference that he has an agenda to be frightening, considering the high amount of suffering in the world.

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Raedon]
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Raedon said:
I find that even with my limited CNS and short life span it's fun to discuss Philosophy & Spirituality in the Philosophy & Spirituality forum.


Yep! Thats why I said my 2 cents are irrelevant. Learn from it what you will, but dont take things too seriously. :grin:

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Edited by dr_mandelbrot (02/07/06 03:04 AM)

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: dorkus]
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I always use the word god loosly, but not in a christian way.. I see why Mckenna never used the term now.

the christian god is used to pack the god fearing people in the pews imho.

People who ask you to define god in a place where people explore ego loss and sacred mushrooms is as silly as wanting god to be a she.. or jesus white.

Please stay with the post and don't get off the subject just to be funny.

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: Raedon]
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Agenda, plan, whatever people call It's purpose for creating life, you can reason It having a will to realize itself through creation and matter. Some will say it has none, it just is what is, being. I think its us who give reasons to things, that just are. The reasons may be infinite too. Thats the one I run with the most.

Self realization though creation and matter or even just being, could go on for eternity so I'm not sure where transcendence would come into play.

You could transcend the state of just being through actually becoming something else. You can transcend being something else specific into just being a part of what is again too.

I think transcendence "spiritually speaking", would only be relevant to the duality realms where IT through us can have a false idea about itself. I think transcendence only happens when you are moving out of the duality conflict realms and unto other complementary contrast ones. Perhaps even that is something to be transcended up the road through the evolutionary process of self realization.

Just a rambling. Who really knows for sure.......

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Some ramblings on 'god' and what he must transend. [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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It's fun playing these games, isn't it Shiva?

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