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Theories
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Webster:

theory - A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena

can be used to make predictions

can be used

People here constantly misuse the word theory for any wacky explanation. The "theory" that we are spirit-fill beings; is NOT predictive nor testable; hence NOT a theory; just an imaginary story.

The next step is usually to compare a real theory such as Evolution, with a non-theory such as Creationism (bu to call it a theory so as to obsfucate) as if they were on equal footing.

There are thousands of non-theories posted here about mushrooms, ancient civilizations, life-after-death which is fine, but do NOT call baseless imaginings, theory.


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Re: Theories [Re: Swami]
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Why is creationism less of a theory than evolution?
Both are hard to prove, and can only be proven by negating the other one, and both are extreamly unlikely.


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Re: Theories [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Simply because evolution can be
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repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.


while creationism cannot. There is a difference between a conception that relies on assumptions with relatively high probability (evolution) and faith (creationism).

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Re: Theories [Re: spud]
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Swamster, could there be a theory stating that one day you will not exist.
Can we call that an absolute theory? Or just easier an Absolute.

Peace,
Droz


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Evolution of Time.

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Re: Theories [Re: Droz]
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It is impossible to deductively prove that Swami will one day not exist, simply because premises to support such an analogical argument do not exist.

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Re: Theories [Re: spud]
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High probability? Haven't you heard of that analogy that the chance that a DNA molecule could be made by a random process is as same as the chance that a tornado can make a fully functional 747 out of random parts on a junkjard?
Is that a high probability?


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Re: Theories [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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relatively high probability


Compared to other theories of existence, evolution makes the least assumptions.

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Re: Theories [Re: spud]
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Yes, but just because we have only a few theories and one of them is mor probable than others, doesn't mean that it is then of high probability. It only means that it is least ridiculous.

I think we should slightly step back from all of the theories in existence and rethink them a bit. I don't buy either of them


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Re: Theories [Re: Swami]
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The use is relative. The goal for the use is also relative. I have had some private convos filled with what most others would call gibberish and wacko theories, but if who I am discussing the theory with has the same goal and knows how to use it then who is to say what is a theory and what isn't.

If I don't care to build a baseball field, all theories on the best design are useless to me and will sound wacko because I have no goals for fitting baseball fields into my reality.


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Re: Theories [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter said:
Yes, but just because we have only a few theories and one of them is mor probable than others, doesn't mean that it is then of high probability. It only means that it is least ridiculous.



I meant high as in ordinal rank, the highest.

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I think we should slightly step back from all of the theories in existence and rethink them a bit.


Agreed.

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Re: Theories [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Nice parroting job OWS. :rolleyes:

This quote was made out of ignorance of the processes of self organization principles of chemistry and the laws of probability (among other things).

The odds of something happening after-the-fact are ALWAYS 100% or 1 out of 1.


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Re: Theories [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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OldWoodSpecter - Well the, do you believe there is intelligence behind our creation? Like some sort of strange entity that is on a different level then we are, sort of like existing in a different dimension or something?

It's very hard to believe in intelligent design, are they even simple random mutations? Or are they so complex that we don't have the capability to grasp it?

Peace,
Droz


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Re: Theories [Re: Swami]
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The same reason a train crossing is called a crossing although it's really an intersection.


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Re: Theories [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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then who is to say what is a theory and what isn't.

I only repeated the salient characteristic FOUR TIMES so as to avoid this sort of confusion.


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Re: Theories [Re: Droz]
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Droz said:
OldWoodSpecter - Well the, do you believe there is intelligence behind our creation? Like some sort of strange entity that is on a different level then we are, sort of like existing in a different dimension or something?

It's very hard to believe in intelligent design, are they even simple random mutations? Or are they so complex that we don't have the capability to grasp it?

Peace,
Droz


If there is an intelligence behind the creation of humans and life on earth in general, then I think it is not some supernatural being from another dimension, but a very natural "real" entity, like we are only with better tools.


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Re: Theories [Re: Swami]
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Personally, I prefer to use the term "best-guess" when discussing ideas which I cannot possibly prove or disprove.

A college chemistry teacher once explained to our class that he had conducted an experiment to prove the existence of God, and therefore the "truth" of Creationism.

He described his hypothesis: that God exists, and that He created the Earth and its creatures. He tested this hypothesis by praying. He believed that his hypothesis had been proven correct, thus advancing his hypothesis into the category of "theory."

I sat staring in utter disbelief at his display of unscientific, circular reasoning. That was my last science class at that college!

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Re: Theories [Re: Veritas]
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No one can make you feel inferior without your permission.

Damn! Now that my shtick is blown and people realize that I have no power over them, I might as well pack my bags.

Thanks a lot!  :mad:


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Re: Theories [Re: Veritas]
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You set an example for his having a goal. He used his theory to obtain his goal.

It reads wacko from here because I don't share in his goal and have no use for his theory but.........to each his own.

Just because its proof to him doesn't mean it is to others. I bet for others who share in his goal his theory is useful.

Weird how that works. :crazy2:

What if someone is dumping their theory on you for getting to mars and all you care about is feeding the starving children in Somalia. You are going to look at the dude like he is nuts and tell him he is a whack job for wanting to get there with all the starving children here to tend to and his theory is useless to you.


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Re: Theories [Re: Swami]
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Quote:
Hacking Young Minds: 1999-2005


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Re: Theories [Re: Swami]
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the?o?ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-r, th?r)
n. pl. the?o?ries

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.

3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.

4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.

5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.

6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=theory


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