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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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Thank you.  :frown:

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: BleaK]
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Quote:
BleaK said:
example of learning by experience. in this way, i hope many people die.
fucking idiots.



Do you feel no compassion for your fellow humans? This little girl didn't have a choice in her death. Her mother was duped into allowing a bunch of people MASQUERADING as scientists to kill her with ignorance. I certainly don't feel sorry for the people who ended up in jail, and they should be left to rot there for the rest of their lives for what they did. The mother I can feel slightly sorry for, only because she has lost her daughter. She too was full of ignorance.

The little girl I can feel deeply sorry for. Her parents were supposed to be protecting her...not allowing this to happen.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
This is exactly my point! It seems that all you need to do is label something, anything as "science". Toss in some techno-babble to confuse anyone who doesn't spend 24/7 reading science...and you will find a LOT of people who will buy into your "science" without any second-guess. It looks like this little girl's mother fell victim to this horrid type of scam.


I don't think you should be so quick to finger science here.. ANYONE with a decent amount of common sense would NOT stand by while this procedure happened to their child, even if it was in the name of a scientific procedure that was supposed to help the child.

I would have locked her mother up with the rest of them if it were up to me.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: JacquesCousteau]
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No no! I'm not blaming science on this one, I'm blaming the general public LACK of scientific knowledge and the people who EXPLOIT this lack to their own agendas, usually for money.

The only fault of science, in this, is the elitism that began in the scientific community last century. Both the public and scientists themselves began to view scientists as a step above the rest, in some ways. Science has given us so many material things. In a materlialistic society, I think it has led to a hope that science will solve all of our problems...and do so NOW. So people are more willing to put their doubts aside when something is passed off as "science".


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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Indeed.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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i feel a combination of compassion and anger.

the more we fuck up the faster we evolve.
HOW ELSE DO PEOPLE LEARN?

my lengthy apathetic state due to my lack of direction, has enevitably led to anger.
but it does seem usefull in ways.


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"You cannot trust in law, unless you can trust in people. If you can trust in people, you don't need law." -J. Mumma

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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Has anyone ever heard of the Darwin Award http://www.darwinawards.com/ This is awarded when a really stupid person takes themselves out of the gene pool by doing something dangerously stupid. Most of the stories are sickly humorous. Unfortunately this was a case of idiots taking someone ELSE out of the gene pool instead of themselves. Ignorance is NOT bliss.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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"HOW ELSE DO PEOPLE LEARN?"

by reason for one, experiments which dont cost peoples lives.

do you learn by repeatedlky banging your head against the same wall.

this is from dark ages, we dont learn anything new from this, its just terrible.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: kbilly]
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and how do u understand reason? by experience.


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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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it still baffels reading that article again.

its like, how far are people willing to go now?

"how else do people learn?"

repetition is one the core ways humans learn.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: kaiowas]
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Yes but repetition produces memorization, which is quite far from understanding :wink:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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[gomp]Yes but memorization is a prerequisite for understandinization, ja? :p :confused: :thumbup: [/gomp]



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Re: Death By Theory [Re: kbilly]
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kbilly said:
"haha, why is that bad? (if it is)"
god knows if i understand you correctly your pretty incoherent at best of times and not just ebcuase your norwegian

because a defenceless child is dead
are you an idiot??


LOL, cute :wink:
shall we take that one more time?
Quote:
""Far too often today science is used for coercion.""
you do what you do, and there is nothing you can do about it, man's unbending intent plrevails? haha, why is that bad? (if it is) 




today science is used for coercion was presented,
so i asked:
you do what you do, and there is nothing you can do about it, man's unbending intent plrevails? haha, why is that bad? (if it is)

see another possible connection this time?  :wink: :thumbup:



""god knows if i understand you correctly your pretty incoherent at best of times and not just ebcuase your norwegian""

then you should talk to god an not me? :P hehe
and if you know why i am 'pretty incoherent', why not share it? maybe it could be changed?


""because a defenceless child is dead ""
if that child suffered, i am gonna go ahead and say, then you suffer to. you are what you are you can not change it, you are where you are you can not change it, "calling pity makes the pity"  unknown :P

""are you an idiot?? ""
I am what i am, and given everything is nothing. i am everything(included a idiot to some?) that depend on how you judge it? one way i see it i am, and that is enough.  :confused: :thumbup:


"""they emerge from a complex internal logic based, unfortunately, on faulty premises"""

"faulty premises is nothing but a blame of after thinkers"
-unknown :P


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Re: Death By Theory [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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"THAT was some sadistic s**t! Poor child. "

let it out marko. the word is SHIT.

that was some twisted, evil, iexcusable SHIT.


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Re: Death By Theory [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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""[gomp]Yes but memorization is a prerequisite for understandinization, ja? :p  [/gomp]""

hehe  :cool:

understanding do not require memory, it is memory? :P
if i understood that memory was necessary to understand. do i make memory by understanding?, and if that is right, if i do not understand how a bird can fly, could that make me not capable of remembering that a bird can fly?  :confused:
:grin: :heart:


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Edited by Gomp (11/06/04 05:09 PM)

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
Yes but repetition produces memorization, which is quite far from understanding :wink:



oooooooooooooooooooooo  :wink:  :grin:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: kaiowas]
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"you are what you are you can not change it, you are where you are you can not change it"

what rubbish, if you could not change then you would stay just the way you were when you were born.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: kbilly]
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""you are what you are you can not change it, you are where you are you can not change it""

did you not get all the possibilities of that sentence?
let's do another one, you do what you did... and you can not change it.. you are where you was.. and you can not change it?


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Edited by Gomp (11/07/04 08:02 AM)

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: Gomp]
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Gomp, in the example he quoted you failed to use past tense terminology. Therefore, you were expressing that the present cannot be different if one desires it to be. (which is false)

In the latter example given, you used past tense terminology, which expresses that the PAST cannot be changed. (Which is true.)

Sometimes it's not a matter of how a statement is being interpretted, but how you worded it.

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Re: Death By Theory [Re: JacquesCousteau]
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""in the example he quoted you failed to use past tense terminology. Therefore, you were expressing that the present cannot be different if one desires it to be. (which is false)""

ok one more time :wink:

"you are what you are you can not change it, you are where you are you can not change it" an ekample: you broke your leg, skiing in the alps, all alone.. in fact you broke both your legs..
so you sit there then, you are hurt and you are still sitting there  hurt, what can you do? (you have no cell phone either.)
then you are what you are you can not change it, you are where you are you can not change it?


""In the latter example given, you used past tense terminology, which expresses that the PAST cannot be changed. (Which is true.)""

"you do what you did... and you can not change it.. you are where you was.. and you can not change it? "

same example, you could not move, (you had broken both legs)
you jumped down a to steep hill, could you change it?



""Sometimes it's not a matter of how a statement is being interpreted, but how you worded it. ""

I have no desire to neither prove nor disprove the views and philosophies. you may be think you understand the words I have just said to you. but, what you may fail to realize is, what you may have thought I said is not what I actually may have intended by saying what I said, when I said it.


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Edited by Gomp (11/07/04 08:34 AM)

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