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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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a funeral isnt just about one person its about family and friends too.
other people need you sometimes, but if one really was too emotional to go, then one shouldnt if he pleases. i had to be a pillar of support for others, and them for me, i guess it comes down to personal feelings and emotions...


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if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: trendal]
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I'm going to wait for 3 whole days before I post my reasoning for posting this thread. (Apropos MM)


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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Someone should remind me when 3 days is up...

I already asked my friend to remind me what it is I'm trying to prove with this thread.  :grin:


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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if you are to go to a funeral, at least have one that celebrates life, not mourning.  people mourn because they have some kind of fear implimented in them.  I bet you poeple at a funeral ask themselves the question "when am I next?"

It is these types of questions that serve as a "wake up call" for some.

I personally detest funerals, the last thing I want to be remembered by is something that cost a lot, an a big box with a limp body.

then again, there are those situations where there's a child who died, in which case, um...i dunno  that one is a toss up for me since I 'believe" that it is tragic when a very young person dies.  :grin:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: kaiowas]
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Would you go to the funeral? And if so, how would you handle it once you were there? Would you pretend to be sad? Happy? What?


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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I"ve been to many of them, including one for my friend (car accident). i was younger then too, and I was really upset about it.

now I wouldn't go to a funeral. if anything I will visit the family off and on throught a couple of weeks. that's how I show my support of others. again, the dead need nothing else here, but the living do.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: kaiowas]
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But if the dead person didn't need anything, why would you visit those still living?


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
Ooo yeah they're so fantastic! I always have a great time at them.

I help put the FUN in Funeral!

lol honestly though I don't enjoy them at all, but I think it is nice to go if it was a loved one who's family you'll still see around - this way their family isn't like "fuck that person they didn't go to Susan's funeral.."


I almost missed this one.  :grin:

Why go, just because it's a loved one who's family you'll still see around?  So what if they discard you if you don't go?


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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um...I guess because I care about people. yeah that's it. I care. uh huh.

personally I don't see a reason to answer this but


say you knew someone who died, and you knew their family and vice versa then yeah out of RESPECT alone I would visit them to see how things are doing. try to bring a smile along ya know!


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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I personally don't believe in funerals, because they mourn the death of a body and (supposedly) the death of a person/soul. But I do not believe life can have an end, because I don't believe it has a beginning, so I certainly don't believe a lifeless corpse is reason to think a soul is dead. It's a continuous cycle, with no beginning and no end. Sorry if I articulated that poorly, I'm hungry and I get cranky when I'm hungry, I just want to go eat.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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A funeral marks the end of a life.

I personally dont like the typical funerals, the graveyard, the wake, the ceremony at the funeral home... Wtf is that? A funeral home? How morbid can you get?

That alone creeps me out. When someone dies, i think people should give notice of the fact... Ever since i learned the burial rights of the vikings, pushing their dead on ships into the ocean, then setting them on fire.

Its kind of like, the shore of life, once you have traveled the great distance to see all the land, you arive at the beach, and the water marks the end. But in the water is the place where souls go.

The way i think they burry people is morbid too, why in the ground? In these expensive "coffins"? Whats the deal with that?

I personally, would want to be returned bit by bit to the earth, give myself back to the land, let my matter dissolve back into the planet. Why waste the wood? Why waste the money and metal?

Not only is it morbid, but it seems limiting. Burn me on a pyre and let my ashes blow in the wind to the sea. Whats dark about that? The family can let go of me, as the earth takes me back, instead of seeing me shoved into a section of the earth to have my body mumified as a part of some unchanging relic... No, i would have liked to have seen the funerals i have been to more free, more embracing of the changing cycle.

I didnt see catharsis, maybe thats why we should get together, so we can help eachother purge the emotions. And on a grand level, let them pass in remembereance, but in reverance of the ever changing life.

Observe death, and appreciate life.


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Zero7a1]
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I think they put dead people in coffins because they get stinky after a while..

And Frog, you'd replied "Why go, just because it's a loved one who's family you'll still see around? So what if they discard you if you don't go?"

For my own selfish reasons - I don't like making people angry (most of the time)


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In addition: SHPONGLE

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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I believe a funeral is the last chance to be physically near someone one loves, or cares for, or just enjoyed being with. I can't let that last chance go because I believe its all I have. If I knew for a fact there was an afterlife, I might skip a funeral here or there. But I'm convinced this life is all there is. Peace


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Zero7a1]
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well put


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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I recently attended a funeral of a friend out of obligation. If I hadn't gone all my friends (who went) would've considered me out of the loop or something, they didn't understand the unnecessity of the funeral. They thought I was afraid of accepting it or something. I was dealing with it in my own happy way which didn't involve seeing his bloated corpse on display for all to weep. The fact the guy died didn't bother me at all, I felt sorry for the family and what they had to go through. The man will be missed and I did/do respect him. After the funeral we walked down the street in 20 degree weather over snow & slick slick ice. We waited in the graveyard for an hour, freezing to death (sorry bout the pun) waiting for this. So many people looked horribly depressed, that's what made it worse.
Personally I don't want people to have to suffer any more than they might already when I die.

I don't want to have a funeral. Sure it's tradition, sure it'll help people get closure, but for my funeral I want a BIG party thrown. Like BIG. Live band/DJ with dancin' music, lotso berr (that's alchohol) and good times. It would be a way to celebrate my life and provide closure with one event. Lesse; Party/Funeral... Party/Funeral.. which to choose?


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Zero7a1]
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well put indeed.


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: KackleDude]
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well my great granpa just died and that didnt bother me. Im not bothered when people die. Death is the greatest part of the human experience. Sure i will mis them...but the other side of it greatly outwieghts that. So i wasent sad at the funeral for my grandpa dieing. And mind you after my first dose of LSD stuff makes me want to cry, if its beutiful or if its horrible...i want to cry. But death is not horrible unless it happned in a horrible way...and its really not that sad to me unless i actually saw the horrer.

anyway, so the death didnt bother me. But sitting there watching my grandma cry...now that got to me. I almost couldent hold back the tears...she is the greatest women ive ever met and it just broke my heart to see her drying. So we stayed with her for a little over a week and left yesterday...and we had to leave her at her house by herself and she knew she had ot do it sometimes and so did we...but she was crying as we went out the door and i almost couldent take it...i just had to hurry up and walk right out the door...i just cant bare to look at my grandma sit there and cry. Breaks my heart.


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Work like you dont need the money.

Love like you never been hurt.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Strumpling]
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I help put the FUN in Funeral!

Are you the same person who put the FUN back in Fundamentalism?


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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why wait three days man? go ahead and make your point now, cuz im starting to get a little curious. you keep asking the same questions, and getting the same answers.

ya, funerals suck, personally i would prefer not to go to them. but just recently both my grandmother and a cousin of mine died within a little over a month of each other. my family was a wreck. i went, out of respect for the people still alive who dont feel the same way about these things as i do. i care about my family, and i care about my friends. and i will be there in their time of need, even if it means going to some stupid funeral. when my grandmother died, it didnt really set in. for the most part, it still hasnt. i wake up in the morning and half expect her to be in the kitchen watching tv. i moved in with my grandparents shortly before she died. to help my grandfather take care of her, and offer what support to him/her i possibly could in her last days. i now stay, to offer my grandfather a little companionship. he would not last long living all by himself after losing a wife of over 50 yrs. but at the funeral, it kinda hit me....ya, shes dead.

so ya, you shouldnt be forced to go to them....if you wanna go, go. of you dont, dont. its as simple as that. i went cuz i felt that i should go to them to offer support to my family and friends, to let them know that though they just lost someone they loved, they are not alone.


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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I've never went to a funeral, and I've had oppurtunities when I was younger, my uncle and my great grandparents... but I was a lot younger then and I don't really remember why I didn't go, fear I guess.

Anyways, I haven't recently had an oppurtunity to decide whether or not I would go to one. I don't think I would want to... but maybe I would. I'm pretty neutral on this now. I mean, if my mom or dad, step mom, or any of my siblings or my grandma or grandpa died, I would go. I would pretty much have no choice, I would be a close relative that shared a lot of my life with them.

At any rate, as for myself, I wouldn't want a traditional funeral. I'd want to be put on a small Viking ship that was sent out into the sea on fire. Everyone would be on shore and would watch as I float out... it would probably have a lot more meaning than being buried. Of course, if it wasn't really possible to do that, I'd like to have my ashes spread in some sea or river...

On a side note, is having a tombstone set up for someone that is buried a monument to their life? Is it out of some ego trip, you know, "I once lived!"... or is it just a sign that says "Hey, he who passes, here lies a dead guy, don't dig a well here"?
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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