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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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i like their stained glass art.


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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.

~Casil



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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Todcasil]
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oooh...good one  :thumbup:



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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Todcasil]
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P.S.



awesome avatar mang  :cool:

I almost wrote up a thread about it the other day, but I figured most everyone here had probably already read the article I was getting ready to comment on anyway, so I didn't even bother going through with it  :shrugs:



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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Two Christians in my team. Both are clearly touched by the desire to do good, use the bible to guide them in that and say they find their inspiration in Jesus.

Now thats a --very-- good thing, innit?


I think it's a very rare thing.

I live in the Southern part of Georgia and here there is not so much fraternizing. Alot of the people that I know give sideways glances at people of other faiths and speak in whispers about them to their friends. I don't generally let anyone know that I am agnostic. It would label me almost the same as if I were a leper. If my mother knew she would most definitely disown me. It's that bad.


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Ekstaza]
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Muppet...

thanks about the avatar :smile:

but im retireing it for a while, now i got this pretty blue one done up.

dont worry, it will be back : )

peace


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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.

~Casil



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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Todcasil]
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Christians are able to look at the blooming, buzzing, craziness of reality and find a truth that they invest their energy towards seeing through as true. They can be extremely honest, loving people.


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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* Motions towards signature below* :lol:

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Peace. :mushroom2:


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Like being here
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Loving every breath of you
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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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Christianity, for me, has taught me what is wrong with it. I learned that through being a fundamentalist christian for a number of years.

I know many christians, and many are great people.Christianity helps in many ways also. It helps lots of people who can't handle life without help also.


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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The thing i like about Christianity is they changed from the bottom up.  The culture of Christianity from about the crusades to the Renaissance was vile, murderous and evil.  But they changed....and it wasnt some invading power that forced them to change....the common people changed what Christianity was and what it stood for.  This change started from the bottom and worked its way to the top.  Its very rare in human history that any culture/religion changes its ways without an outside force, but the Christians did, and for that they have my respect.  :thumbup:

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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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i have never said that christians are bad people. however in my experience most are narrow minded, this is what i hate most. when people become christians they stop themselves doubting their religion and blindly follow it, unable to question what they follow but following it because they are Christians. wow i intended this post to turn out positive lol


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: ]
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Well yes, there is always a variable at play like that. I was just making an unfair generalization based on my own life experiences.

(Haha!)

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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Todcasil]
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Todcasil said:
i like their stained glass art.


SO TRUE!!!! haha! religion is good for one thing that's for sure: supporting the arts!  :thumbup:


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Mad_Buhdda_Abuser]
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Maybe yes, maybe no, but it's irrelevant to the Truth which Jesus embodied.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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...And Schindler was a member of the Nazi Party, but as Nazis go, he was the best kind. He worked in and with evil, and created spaces within that evil holocaust into which innocent humans were spared death.

Conversely, the Catholic Church and the later Protestant Churches, conducting their own holocaust, burned to death tens of millions of innocent people over 300 years whom they called heretics, witches, sorcerers, magician, enchantresses (many of whom were probably gorgeous women who said "no" to repulsive clergymen, who then announced that they'd been 'enchanted' or 'charmed' or 'bewitched' with love magic, i.e., sexual politics).

Now it is probably true that a 'good Nazi' is much more rare than a good Christian, but everyone who CALLS him/herself a Christian does not mean that they have any idea what it means to BE a Christian - to manifest Christ in the Way that is intended for human beings: Mercy NOT Judgement. The Christ [doctrine] of the Bible speaks of Christ as embodying both aspects ("coming in glory to judge the living and the dead") but this metaphysic is reserved for GOD alone, not crusaders and inquisitioners. Any Jewish Kabbalist who knows little or nothing of the NT still Knows that Judgement (Din) and Mercy (Chesed) are two spheres on the left and right columns of the Tree of Life. A Christian Kabbalist additionally Knows that the central sphere Tiphereth (Beauty) is identified with Christ, the Primal [Hu]man, the spiritual Sun.

I suppose that the haters who call themselves Christians are no more than inheritors of the pagan atrocity that Constantine made of the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Constantine was a Sun worshipper and was forced into a deathbed conversion to Christianity for politic's sake. He knew that Rome could better rally under this upstart religion of One GOD than under the polytheism stolen from the Greeks. Constantine was a warrior, a conquerer, whose vision of the Greek letters Chi [X] and Rho [P] superimposed on each other, and the message 'Under this sign conquer,' created a monstosity that has become the religion called Christianity: a many-headed hydra of denominations at war with each other and other faiths since the beginning.

As I become older, I find it more difficult to tell people I am a Christian. It is not accurate to say that I am a Jew either. A Jewish Christian, and people say "Oh, Jews for Jesus," which makes me want to gag. The only reason that I use Gnostic as a tag is because some churches of those 'heretics' sought to become 'Christ-like' themselves instead of fighting and killing and persecuting in the Name of Christ and with the Name of Christ - Christ-ians. What's a Believer in the Way to say? GOD forbid that people think that I watch the 700 Club, go to see Benny Hinn, or think that letters written by Paul are the infallible Words of GOD Almighty. WHAT...in GOD's Name can I call myself to most clearly and accurately describe the TRUTH that I worship and endeavor to be transformed into?


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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What I like about Christianity (besides the aformentioned ) is its understanding of mass psychology. I was at the rosary for my sister's deceased godmother, and suddenly I realised the mass chanting of the same words, combined with the altered light from stained glass windows is a tool to join the attending 'subscribers' as one single body, devoted to one single goal.
When I listen to gregorian music, I can imagine very well that people thought God was present in mass. The music itself is designed to take you to higher regions. I like it to such a degree that I'm going to listen to it during my next trip.

Next: using Latin for masses. IMO, it's a bad thing masses are now conducted in the local language. I see the point in translating scripture for personal use in the home, but masses should be in Latin once more, because that arcane language simply demonstrates the otherworldly nature of communion with God. Especially in these times, where people who choose to learn Latin are becoming more and more rare, it would be a good thing to emphasise the mystery upon which the religion is based.

That automatically brings me to the next point: symbolism. Christianity has some great symbols and metaphors, although the church has opted to translate those into more contemporary modes of speech. That was a wrong move, IMO, because much can be learned if one understands the symbolism correctly. They tell you a lot about human nature, and more specifically, the ways of the psyche.


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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Even the simpsons bash Christians...Flanders etc...

I dont know...they are polite and will give you change if you need some....

Thats a good thing!

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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: Northernsoul]
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Flanders always comes off as compassionate though.. I mean, the guy bends over backwards for Homer, who simply takes advantage of that..the Flanders family gets excited when they have a chance to feed, bath, and clothe some transient. When Christians are bashed, they're usually bashed for judgementalism, fundamentalism, etc... not to mention there's alot of religion in general in the Simpsons, and everyone in Springfield pretty much accepts the existence of God.

There's even some book called the "Gospels According to the Simpsons"


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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At least they're not Catholics!!!


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: theorganicdomino]
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Catholics are Christians


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Re: Say something positive about Christians [Re: silversoul7]
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silversoul7 said:
I once had a strong trip in which I felt like I was Jesus on the cross, tormented spiritually, then I accepted Jesus's love into my heart and the pain ended. I don't know if that makes me a Christian(I still don't believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, and I still believe in a pantheistic God, not an anthropomorphic one), but it was an intense experience which made me feel closer to God.



I've had a couple of similar experiences. The last time I was at this festival and I thought I was going to be crucified so the rapture could come (obviously there was much more to it, but for the sake of discussion....) it was quite terrifying, until I felt my burden had been absolved by Christ.


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The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side.
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