Home | Community | Message Board

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up
    #29704209 -

Auto-Summary
A person recounts a vivid dream in which he encounters a mysterious figure who tells him, "you are God," challenging his long-held beliefs and prompting a deep internal conflict. The dream takes a dramatic turn when he, overwhelmed by self-doubt and a sense of unworthiness, disrupts the spiritual ascent he was experiencing, leading to a terrifying transformation into a "lake of fire." The dream serves as a metaphor for his struggle with self-judgment and guilt, reflecting his inner turmoil and the impact of his negative self-perception. He connects his experience to Buddhist teachings, particularly those of Ajahn Brahm, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness, restraint, and the virtue of shame in maintaining inner purity. The narrative highlights his realization that self-criticism can sabotage spiritual progress and his hope to one day achieve a more balanced and compassionate self-view.

About a week and a half ago more/less.

I had a vivid dream involving being at the home I grew up in, also I'm pretty sure the video on YouTube I fell asleep to was mixing in my dream as I listened to what was philosophical insights that I was interested in sharing with the other people I saw in the dream, I think they were Stoicism teachings.

At some point in the dream I meet up with this old guy in tattered robes, I don't think he identified himself as a sage, yogi or saint, but the way he communicated and interacted with me, it seemed he was something special, than he made it clear to me with assertive, direct and candid expression, he said "you are God", and I was confused for that would be heresy or blasphemy where I came from in my youth and the way I was raised, though as I got older and after years of searching and expanding my views, beliefs and understanding of what and who I am and what and who you all are, I am more inclined to think the "I", "me" and "mine" has to be let go of, the "self" fading away and disappearing, cessation of identity. That is, for God to make his face shine upon us and be visible to the world or to me or to anyone of us...anyways, my memory is kind of sketchy but I think that man of wisdom, I'm pretty sure he repeated again to me "you are God". And even a third time he insisted "you are God" to me.

Interesting, mind-blowing, awe and wonder, didn't reject him or his statement, nor did I understand it and embrace it, I have a naive comprehension of certain views, beliefs and attitudes that something along the lines that we are God's children, like the old testament phrase "God's unto god's" in God's narrative in and of describing us as his special creation made in his image and likeness as in the book of Psalms and Genesis.

I normally fall asleep to a Buddhist monk named Ajahn Brahm who resides over in Australia (I've listened to practically all his talks multiple times over the past years and decades as I fall asleep most every night! And had guess appearance by him in beautiful and significant interacting dream moments in the past.)

There was some strange, only could happen in a dream type shit going on, I can't remember much of the wild other stuff that happened, so I'll jump to the end, the part that seems to be most significant. I'm coming outside of my old house into the yard and was engulfed with a nostalgic sight and atmosphere that charmed and put me to tender-wonder-serenity gazing up the tall trees of the woods across the street from my house and into the sky of my front yard. I was aware of and quickly sensing that God or Jesus or the Divine was going to make his appearance and likely express something important to me. So I surprisingly was open and welcoming to this vision, but could feel my body shake with apprehension and anticipating awe. Bright white light engulfed me and I was floated up into the sky, but all I could see was bright white light like I was embracing a cloud, I think I heard a voice saying "you are God", or the man's conversation echoed in my head and reverberated several times and than I made a big mistake and blurted out by saying "I'm not worthy!" And "I'm a horrible sinner, I'm not a good person, I don't deserve this, I'm a dirty waste" etc the angels carrying me must have heard me self-deprecating myself and took me seriously, the secure, comfortable white light/cloud I was riding up on now stood at a stand-still and gradually or a large portion of the light became red and darker. And lost it now became of my security, now this ride to heaven is uncomfortable with its sudden option number 2 seemingly which is a lake of fire! I stayed floating in a red lighted large cloud I'll fairly call in limbo I think is the word and with more bad actions and failures following me from the past making me sweat buckets and it was me who turned this triumph, glory, success ⁶and victory ride to heaven as it started out on upwards into something else by being so hard and degrading on myself. I than woke up from my sleep, halfway to heaven, halfway to hell,.. I'll get it right someday.

I beat myself up too much and fear judgement day with zeal and a passion. But I ruined my glorious dream of entering heaven
But both the main fact and the main moral of the story is just like Ajahn Brahm teaches on occasion that someone or anyone who dies with guilt for thinking bad thoughts and or speaking bad words and or doing bad actions, your guilt follows you and everyone really, eventually feels guilty for their crimes, offences or sins.
I understand their is a shame that is encouraged and benefits a person, the positive virtue of shame which keeps one pure and Innocent, maintaining a peacefulness and holiness by way of regular friendly admonishing you or instructing you or restraining you from what is wrong
embrace the virtue of shame, keep cleanliness of body, speech and mind and limit yourself by guarding and restraining the 6 kinds of contact, do not grasp at the signs and features of the 6 kinds of contact and thereby avoid evil Unwholesome states of covetous and grief keep it clean and positive from what the 6 external bases of contact come into contact with 6 internal bases of contact and in accord or harmony is the triggering of the 6 bases of consciousnesses and the meeting of the 3 sets of 6 is contact

Ok I'm crashing let's try to get some sleep now. :vaped:


--------------------
"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: saintdextro]
    #29705022 -

The dark stuff, any fuck up and everything, give to your God-Guru-Buddha, on a regular basis, should be habitual, just saying from my school. Not sure if there's a similar aspect in Buddhism. Nothing you give is lost, unless something not worth keeping, but is perfected and kept for you. Like you have a question or problem, give it over, and not only is the solution or healing provided, but returned is far more than expected, like the story of one digging for coal and finding jewels.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: syncro]
    #29705185 -

I hear in Buddhism (particularly from Ajahn Brahm) that the heaven realms and the hell realms are "mind-made" realms, your shitty-bad but well lived life now puts you in a well deserved heavenly experience next life while guilt (or that dark triad "guilt-fear-separation") puts you in the hellish experience of the lower realms.

If rebirth is real, at this point I think I'd be happy as a tree 🌲🌴 but I hear this is one of the lower births you can get, seems pretty chill to me though...


--------------------
"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: saintdextro]
    #29705222 -

I like the implications of control, or freedom, choice, like the quote by Saraswati, if you have reasonable dharana (concentration), you can roam where you like. Dharana is just the first of three in samyama - dharana, dhyana(meditation), and samadhi. It's one of my favs verse, just so generous, found in a particular version of Yoga Vasistha. I think it was that short version spinvis found, will need to look.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: saintdextro]
    #29705633 -

Maybe it's worth doing some self-inquiry, asking one's self "what is it that I feel is such a terrible sin I committed that makes me unredeemable?"

And really analyze it. If there is something we feel we did that harmed another and for which we can make amends, without further harming anyone, then we could do that. Could be the beginning of a grand adventure in self-transformation. Or another step in the grand process of karma alchemy.

On the other hand, we may find that we did not commit some terrible sin. Maybe we were just human, doing the best we could, with limited vision. Maybe forgiveness is in order. Forgiving ourselves for judging ourselves and others so harshly.


--------------------
All communication
is pattern
and rhythm

Edited by Blue Cthulhu (10/23/26 09:41 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #29705634 -

Quote:
IV. Gentleness

1. Harm is impossible for God’s teachers. ²They can neither harm nor be harmed. ³Harm is the outcome of judgment. ⁴It is the dishonest act that follows a dishonest thought. ⁵It is a verdict of guilt upon a brother, and therefore on oneself. ⁶It is the end of peace and the denial of learning. ⁷It demonstrates the absence of God’s curriculum, and its replacement by insanity. ⁸No teacher of God but must learn,—and fairly early in his training,—that harmfulness completely obliterates his function from his awareness. ⁹It will make him confused, fearful, angry and suspicious. ¹⁰It will make the Holy Spirit’s lessons impossible to learn. ¹¹Nor can God’s Teacher be heard at all, except by those who realize that harm can actually achieve nothing. ¹²No gain can come of it.

2. Therefore, God’s teachers are wholly gentle. ²They need the strength of gentleness, for it is in this that the function of salvation becomes easy. ³To those who would do harm, it is impossible. ⁴To those to whom harm has no meaning, it is merely natural. ⁵What choice but this has meaning to the sane? ⁶Who chooses hell when he perceives a way to Heaven? ⁷And who would choose the weakness that must come from harm in place of the unfailing, all-encompassing and limitless strength of gentleness? ⁸The might of God’s teachers lies in their gentleness, for they have understood their evil thoughts came neither from God’s Son nor his Creator. ⁹Thus did they join their thoughts with Him Who is their Source. ¹⁰And so their will, which always was His Own, is free to be itself. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/810#1:1-2:10 | M-4.IV.1:1–2:10)




--------------------
All communication
is pattern
and rhythm

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #29705638 -



--------------------
All communication
is pattern
and rhythm

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #29705642 -

Quote:
The Holy Spirit will never teach you that you are sinful. ²Errors He will correct, but this makes no one fearful. ³You are indeed afraid to look within and see the sin you think is there. ⁴This you would not be fearful to admit. ⁵Fear in association with sin the ego deems quite appropriate, and smiles approvingly. ⁶It has no fear to let you feel ashamed. ⁷It doubts not your belief and faith in sin. ⁸Its temples do not shake because of this. ⁹Your faith that sin is there but witnesses to your desire that it _be_ there to see. ¹⁰This merely seems to be the source of fear. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/255#1:1-10 | T-21.IV.1:1-10)




And

Quote:
What if you looked within and saw no sin? ²This “fearful” question is one the ego never asks. ³And you who ask it now are threatening the ego’s whole defensive system too seriously for it to bother to pretend it is your friend.





--------------------
All communication
is pattern
and rhythm

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #29705907 -

my flying dreams are close to existing public spaces - gardens and staircases - streets and stadiums, and although they involve no sports equipment they have the excitement of skating and riding.

things look different when flying at speed close to the ground and even through the thickets.

heaven is very close to the ground for me, and I am a frequent flyer that way.


--------------------
:brainfart: _ :finger:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: redgreenvines]
    #29706389 -

I usually fly in my dreams when I aspire to change locations frequently; those flying dreams feel a lot more grounded than when I just teleport instantly to new locations

I love the feeling of knowing that I can just will myself to fly in my dreams. Feels like heaven to me


--------------------
"Why try for high fives,
When my pies have nine lives?"
DUBJUG : H.D. : PLASTIC-MYC : TGE : JOIN CAKE WARS : MODERN FRUITING : MCWA : QDMT : MY FAV TEKS 📖

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: langten69]
    #29706919 -

so you do a lot of dream flying?


--------------------
:brainfart: _ :finger:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: redgreenvines]
    #29707012 -

Id say it happens once biweekly so...kinda, but ever since I read the book 'Reality Transurfing', and specifically its portion on lucid dreaming, I noticed myself being able to 'wake up' in my dreams very consistently which leads to exercising my reality morphing powers in my dreams. Its pretty cool stuff...

How about you, what do your flying dreams feel like? Do you feel like you can do it consistently?


--------------------
"Why try for high fives,
When my pies have nine lives?"
DUBJUG : H.D. : PLASTIC-MYC : TGE : JOIN CAKE WARS : MODERN FRUITING : MCWA : QDMT : MY FAV TEKS 📖

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: langten69]
    #29707029 -

for me it's more of "what have we here?" kind of thing.
transitions are faster than flying usually, and this morning I woke from scenes where a talking cat was getting the most attention.
in most ways it was a regular cat but it was really smart, and an engaging conversationalist.
I don't remember what we were discussing, but it could have been anything between sushi and architecture.
architecture is my biggest recurring theme, and movement through architectures often involves flying or something that turns into flying/joy
- occasionally there are areas that stall or block free movement, and often that involves returning to the blockage or locked area, or it could just be a poorly cooked polygon that nobody can bite into.


--------------------
:brainfart: _ :finger:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #29707083 -

Architects are the blueprinters of constructs, I can see why you have such discernment in your ideas if you have the theme of architecture in your consciousness

Its always cool to have a cool cat to have i tellectual conversations with such as yourself

:coolcat:


--------------------
"Why try for high fives,
When my pies have nine lives?"
DUBJUG : H.D. : PLASTIC-MYC : TGE : JOIN CAKE WARS : MODERN FRUITING : MCWA : QDMT : MY FAV TEKS 📖

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: langten69]
    #29707372 -

🐁...............👁️‍🗨️


--------------------
:brainfart: _ :finger:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My dream of ascending up to the heavens and how I fucked it up [Re: redgreenvines]
    #29707735 -

Message to OP saintdextro:

You are God, yes it is true.

You have access to heaven the precise moment you believe you are worthy.

To believe you are worthy is simply to shed the ideas of yourself as being a sinner or unworthy. Once you give up these ideas of guilt, fear and judgement, you shall have remembrance of the spiritual lightness to ascend into the heavenly state once again.



--------------------
"Why try for high fives,
When my pies have nine lives?"
DUBJUG : H.D. : PLASTIC-MYC : TGE : JOIN CAKE WARS : MODERN FRUITING : MCWA : QDMT : MY FAV TEKS 📖

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* How to Ascend
( 1 2 all )
ShroomismM 12,798 28 09/10/20 02:08 PM
by delusionalpothead7
* Dream Thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 12 13 )
ShroomismM 53,150 253 05/24/24 05:39 AM
by Buster_Brown
* Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel*
( 1 2 3 4 ... 51 52 )
zorbman 184,653 1,020 03/15/18 08:53 PM
by BrendanFlock
* Alien/Human Relations v2.0
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Anonymous 24,953 65 12/23/22 04:19 AM
by doolhoofd
* Mayan Galactic Signature DB.....
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
vampirism 40,628 112 04/21/05 06:06 AM
by emptywisdom
* The 4th Density
( 1 2 3 all )
ShroomismM 17,414 49 10/19/08 02:07 PM
by ariark
* Psychological and metaphysical aspects of Music
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
Blastrid 34,925 107 12/08/16 03:45 AM
by Fractaliopsybe
* The Snakes are inside me...
( 1 2 3 all )
Adamist 14,496 44 02/06/21 12:58 AM
by makalis

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, Asante, Shroomism, Rose, Kickle, yogabunny, Northerner, DividedQuantum
105 topic views. 0 members, 1 guests and 4 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.02 seconds spending 0.003 seconds on 14 queries.