fireworks_god said:

Oh, and also, what is the deal with the Kin? Mine is KIN # 57, and it is just a black bar, like this:


Peace.

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pops said:

I mean Hitler's 'kin' has peaceful, cooperative and healer as attributes for gawds sake.

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However, it does have something in there about living in the light and in the shadow... Maybe Hitler chose the Dark Side.

Seriously, though, I do think that it isn't just something where every reading could apply to everyone if they wanted it to.... like Kaiowas' and mine, we know each other, and I feel his was pretty on while he agrees that mine was as well. I know that if it had given me the readout that he had received, that I wouldn't have really agreed with it because what it listed didn't really fit with me..... It probably isn't anything that is suspossed to be read into with our modern way of thinking, either, I'd guess. 

Hey Vulture, that rules. What is that suspossed to imply, when one person's challenge is the others guide, and vice versa? Does that mean we would be a pretty dynamic duo? Any chance you play drums? *crosses his fingers*
Peace.

pops said:

"the natural time cycle seems to me like a seperate thing from the idea of galactic signatures. i'm talking about galactic signatures."

----Yeah, me too. Your galactic signature is determined by which day of the Tzolkin you were born on. The Tzolkin is made up of 20, 13-day units and is the natural frequency cycle of time (13:20). The Mayans (damn fine astronomers) discovered this frequency and saw how the time period of natural cycles were related ( 13x20=260 days which is roughly the length of human gestation. The moon circles the earth 13 times in a solar year...other observations such as 13 major joints in the body, 20 fingers/toes showed them the human being as a microcosm of the universe). To the Mayans, the Tzolkin was the sacred count of time.
Each day in the Tzolkin cycle has a unique energy which is represented by 13 tones and 20 signs, giving you a kin sign for that day. Your galatic signature is the kin sign of the day you were born.

...see the connection yet? am I making any sense?


"i admit it's possible that the problem was i didn't have an intimate knowledge of these people's private selves but the system didn't seem to really match up with their big life accomplishments."

----The problem is that the reading is not a measure of someone's material accomplisments, nor is it a fourtune teller or "new-agey mumbo-jumbo" . Its a way to recognize your relationship to natural time, become more balanced as a person flowing through the cycles of nature, and see yourself as a member of a larger human family


"now it's a case of well what it really meant to say was ..... like the way bible-thumpers bend biblical passages however it's convenient."


----I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you paraphrasing someone with those italics?? Who is like a bible-thumper?


" I mean Hitler's 'kin' has peaceful, cooperative and healer as attributes for gawds sake."

hmmm...interesting. Let's take a look

adolph's Oracle
(Apr 20, 1889)
KIN # 47
Blue Galactic Hand

Guide: Monkey
Challenge: Earth
Tribe: Hand
Compliment: Human
Hidden: Wizard

I harmonize in order to know,
Modelling healing.
I seal the store of accomplishment
With the galactic tone of integrity.
I am guided by the power of magic.

Red Eastern Castle of Turning ? Court of birth, power of entering

Blue Root Race - The transformers. Key note: abundance

Earth family: White Wind, Blue Hand, Yellow Human, Red Earth

CoreKin ? Mine the tunnels Heart transduce

Blood Clan - Red Chromatic

Tone: 8, Note: G, Name: Galactic, Function: Integrity

You were born in the Wavespell of Yellow Sun in the Year Blue Storm
Blue Hand ? Knows Accomplishment *

When operating in the light of your energy, the positive aspects are: Gateway, Opportunity, Completion, Divination, Tools, Accomplishment, Power, Breakthrough, Healing, Priest/Priestess, Dance, Mudra
Shadows

When operating in the shadow of your energy, typical symptoms are: Feeling inadequate, pressured or scattered. Difficulty in finishing tasks. Thinking the tool has the power.
Transformation

To come out of the shadow: Use commitment, focused intention and openness to help to complete. Experience yourself as a tool of the light. Become aware of your resistances and distractions. Open to opportunity.




...Ok, I'd say its safe to say that Hitler was a man operating from the shadow side of his energy. He fell to the DarkSide (to keep with the Star Wars theme here). He was Hand...maybe why he liked that nazi salute so much. I read that hitler was quite into magic and the occult...so "I am guided by the power of magic" makes sense.
This part makes sense too:
"When operating in the shadow of your energy, typical symptoms are: Difficulty in finishing tasks."
...thank god he didn't finish his task, I'd say!

SkorpivoMusterion said:

LOL damn, I didnt even see yours till now. Shiiit.
Right the fuck on

I'm still putting together how SKYWALKER fits in with Mayan culture...and I just can't seem to shake the whole George Lucas Star wars thingy.



...That's a cool co-incidence, Skorp! you mention the skywalker and the next posted reading is from kaiowas- a skywalker.

fireworks_god said:

Oh, and also, what is the deal with the Kin? Mine is KIN # 57, and it is just a black bar, like this:


Peace.

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You were born on the 57th day of the Tzolkin. That is the 5th day in the 5th wavespell of the tzolkin (a wavespell is a period of 13 days)

the bar just means "5". A bar is a unit of 5, a dot is a unit of one.

The days of wavespell have tones which relate to the processes of creation. The 5th tone is "overtone" tone. That's why your sig. is Red Overtone Earth.

I'm white overtone wizard...same tone, cool