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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 4
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Not kloakk but this is probably the cleanest pan culture I’ve produced… at least the only one I’ve been completely sure about and thought, “that’s gonna do really well.”



Went on to produce this tray


I’ve had plenty that I was unsure about do well tho.  You want fast, even, wispy growth that looks unencumbered.  Watch out for myc that doesn’t grow aerial above the plate surface and lays down.  Too thick myc that’s slow usually means there’s a biofilm under it ime

I also don’t think it’s a stretch to think that some ride along bacteria can be in a symbiotic relationship with mycelium.  These organisms aren’t in anywhere close to sterile conditions out in the wild so maybe some bacteria are welcomed by the myc to help break food down (nichrome has said as much as a possibility). 

Could be that the bacteria hitches a ride helping them spread.  Could also be a way for the mycelium to keep their lineage in check… millions of spores are released and the weaker ones lose the battle of symbiotic balance being taken over by the bacteria whereas, the strong, fast and aggressive offspring stay in balance with the relationship and live long enough to spore.

Just spitballing but with that being said, if you’ve done everything you can to get a culture clean and it still seems slightly dirty but aggressive, maybe you just need to send it and see how it goes.  I have a lot of borderline cultures where Ive done that and they turn out well.  Maybe the first flush is a bit rough but get better in the conservative flushes.

When I do send cultures to grain that I’m not sure of, I’ll pay close attention to what the jar looks like fully colonized.  I let my jar go for 2-3 days after colonization to see how they act.  You really can’t tell much from a colonizing jar.  They can be very deceiving.  The growth in that 2-3 days after 100% tells me if I should even send the jar to bulk. 

This is what I look for in those jars.. again, even growth without signs of stress


That myc growing up the jar says a lot.  The myc in the grains is also even.  There’s no thick matted clumps or bruising or yellowing/gray colors.

This jar has all the things I don’t want to see.  Along with, metabolites


I won’t even waste the materials to send that because 9 out of 10 times, it won’t even make it past colonizing and if it does, it probably won’t flush out.  Metabolites and heavy bruising are the big ones for me.  I see those and it’s a definite no send. 

Edited by fahtster (09/26/26 05:53 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 2
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That's been my experience as well. I've had exactly one plate that looks close to what you posted there. I've had lots that are not quite as good and still produce a decent amount.

I usually try to end up with a perfect plate but if it's close enough by t3/t4 then I run it and see what happens.

In the jar I might end up with 1 to 5 grains that are wet and look bacterial. It will still flush although it usually dies after the first one is done.

As long as your pasteurization is done properly there is a bit of wiggle room.

Wispy growth is the key. Not a lot of molds look like it And when it's going good it tends to grow really uniform


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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BTW thanks faht!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 4
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Thank you Faht! I'll keep coming back to these pictures. What i have does NOT look like this lmfao, its flat, non-ariel, and THIQ. thats how i got it straight from the vender =(

Thanks for the guidance guys.



You guys are awesome



Edit: whoa holy shit Faht you added 100% more to that post, brilliant info thank you!


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Edited by Lo-Z (09/26/26 06:00 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 3
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
@kloakk

I know you have some pictures of some beautiful pan mycelium. Can you post a couple so we have a good Baseline of what to look for?




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
@kloakk

I know you have some pictures of some beautiful pan mycelium. Can you post a couple so we have a good Baseline of what to look for?






I See I See, These are Vastly different than Cubes. I'll be on a culture mission now.


Thank you guys!!


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Lo-Z Things
Brown Rice Grain Prep (Step by Step)
Lo-Z's Forever Print Tek
My Favorite Cow PooPoo Sub Tek

Things that saved Lo-Z
PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0
Beef Supreme on: Rescuing Your Fucked-Up All-in-one kit (Or whatever less-than-ideal situation you have)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Lo-Z]
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You got this!


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