christopera said:

I can tell that you don't understand the point.

Correlation does not equal causation is the point. I am certain most already know that. You making the correlation that increased measles is a result of increases illegal immigration, and you have singled out illegal immigration making your point even more flimsy, is wrong.

I don't know what Trumps numbers are as far as immigration is concerned, but based on that graph alone it is clear that measles cases are not related to immigration.

You're wrong and you can stop proving it any time.

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The phrase "correlation does not imply causation" refers to the inability to legitimately deduce a cause-and-effect relationship between two events or variables solely on the basis of an observed association or correlation between them.[1][2] The idea that "correlation implies causation" is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy, in which two events occurring together are taken to have established a cause-and-effect relationship.

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christopera said:

Nobody said illegals don't contract or spread measles. They are humans afterall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

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The phrase "correlation does not imply causation" refers to the inability to legitimately deduce a cause-and-effect relationship between two events or variables solely on the basis of an observed association or correlation between them.[1][2] The idea that "correlation implies causation" is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy, in which two events occurring together are taken to have established a cause-and-effect relationship.

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falcon said:

Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.

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Asante said:

Suppose Christians had a meme of in the middle of traffic letting go of the wheel and whatever happens is what Jesus wanted.

That’s antivaxx.

You vaccinate for ALL OF US, not just your kid.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

falcon said:

Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.

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They tested and quarantined people at Ellis Island for various diseases quite successfully

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falcon said:

AlChemicalResearch said:

falcon said:

Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.

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They tested and quarantined people at Ellis Island for various diseases quite successfully

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Lol, that cuts it down to a two week quarantine for everyone entering the country from anywhere inhabited.

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falcon said:

I'm guessing 10 percent of the  non immigrant population uses a visa every year, that's probably a low guess, but that's 30 million not 1.


More than 10 million arrivals in February 2026

https://www.trade.gov/i-94-arrivals-historical-data

That's going to be a slow month. Good luck containing measles even if you shut down the illegal immigration.

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christopera said:

You’re being asked to treat your daily life like a trip to Africa?

The fuck does that even mean?

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christopera said:

I spent a fair amount of time in Kenya, and I understand the regiment needed to go.

But nobody is asking anybody to do that daily. You need two doses of measles vaccine for your entire life.

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pugster said:

might have something to do with dumb mofos like this being in places of power

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/fact-check-rfk-jr-repeats-100000014.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/pennsylvania-measles-deaths-rfk-jr-cdc-director-b3044381.html

https://theconversation.com/how-rfk-jr-s-misguided-science-on-mrna-vaccines-is-shaping-policy-a-vaccine-expert-examines-the-false-claims-263027

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/16/health/rfk-vaccine-dismantle

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