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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
I can tell that you don't understand the point.

Correlation does not equal causation is the point. I am certain most already know that. You making the correlation that increased measles is a result of increases illegal immigration, and you have singled out illegal immigration making your point even more flimsy, is wrong.

I don't know what Trumps numbers are as far as immigration is concerned, but based on that graph alone it is clear that measles cases are not related to immigration.

You're wrong and you can stop proving it any time.




I'm literally showing you outbreaks caused by immigration and your pointing to a graph...

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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Nobody said illegals don't contract or spread measles. They are humans afterall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

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The phrase "correlation does not imply causation" refers to the inability to legitimately deduce a cause-and-effect relationship between two events or variables solely on the basis of an observed association or correlation between them.[1][2] The idea that "correlation implies causation" is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy, in which two events occurring together are taken to have established a cause-and-effect relationship.




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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
Nobody said illegals don't contract or spread measles. They are humans afterall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

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The phrase "correlation does not imply causation" refers to the inability to legitimately deduce a cause-and-effect relationship between two events or variables solely on the basis of an observed association or correlation between them.[1][2] The idea that "correlation implies causation" is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy, in which two events occurring together are taken to have established a cause-and-effect relationship.





yea but what I don't get is you're saying "anti vaxxers" are causing measles spread. but most migrants are coming from places that don't have vaccination programs and are not vaccinated. so why is the reason they are not vaccinated matter to the measles virus? even with "anti vax" sentiment in the USA growing, its not as large as the lack of vaccination due to incompetent government programs from places migrants are coming from. that's my point.

if you eradicate a virus/communicable disease in an area, you could stop vaccinating for it since it is not incubated in the population anymore. hence don't need herd immunity from it anymore.

Edited by AlChemicalResearch (09/03/26 05:51 AM)

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: falcon] * 1
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Suppose Christians had a meme of in the middle of traffic letting go of the wheel and whatever happens is what Jesus wanted.

That’s antivaxx.

You vaccinate for ALL OF US, not just your kid.


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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: falcon]
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falcon said:
Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.




They tested and quarantined people at Ellis Island for various diseases quite successfully

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Suppose Christians had a meme of in the middle of traffic letting go of the wheel and whatever happens is what Jesus wanted.

That’s antivaxx.

You vaccinate for ALL OF US, not just your kid.




yes and the vast majority of the world have vaccination rates on par with anti-vax communities, so how does the reasons why matter to the virus?

Edited by AlChemicalResearch (09/03/26 07:41 AM)

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 2
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AlChemicalResearch said:
falcon said:
Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.




They tested and quarantined people at Ellis Island for various diseases quite successfully



Lol, that cuts it down to a two week quarantine for everyone entering the country from anywhere inhabited.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: falcon]
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falcon said:
AlChemicalResearch said:
falcon said:
Anti-vaxxers are sitting there like a sterile Petri dish hoping the flow hood of border security is not in anyway porous. Are we going to quarantine all visitors and returning tourists, business and government people for three weeks? That would be just for measles. Rare, but even people who have had the vaccine or had measles can contract it again. The cost to  insure the closest to no porous border from measles for legal visitors would shut the country down.




They tested and quarantined people at Ellis Island for various diseases quite successfully



Lol, that cuts it down to a two week quarantine for everyone entering the country from anywhere inhabited.




Yea I guess during the Ellis Island days it helped that most all of the immigrants were coming from Europe as opposed to where they are coming from today. But hey, maybe we shouldn't be letting in all these people from places that are dysfunctional at all, instead of putting in a 2 week quarantine for a million people a year.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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I'm guessing 10 percent of the  non immigrant population uses a visa every year, that's probably a low guess, but that's 30 million not 1.


More than 10 million arrivals in February 2026

https://www.trade.gov/i-94-arrivals-historical-data

That's going to be a slow month. Good luck containing measles even if you shut down the illegal immigration.

Edited by falcon (09/03/26 10:01 AM)

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: falcon]
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falcon said:
I'm guessing 10 percent of the  non immigrant population uses a visa every year, that's probably a low guess, but that's 30 million not 1.


More than 10 million arrivals in February 2026

https://www.trade.gov/i-94-arrivals-historical-data

That's going to be a slow month. Good luck containing measles even if you shut down the illegal immigration.



I'm being conservative with the estimates for the sake of the audience in this thread. Its obviously higher than that. But yea man, the ship has already sailed on it. No one should be asked to treat their daily life like a trip to Africa.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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You’re being asked to treat your daily life like a trip to Africa?

The fuck does that even mean?


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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
You’re being asked to treat your daily life like a trip to Africa?

The fuck does that even mean?




Seriously? If you go to Africa you need to get a ton of shots pre-trip in preparation for dealing with diseases they have over there that we have eradicated or never have over here.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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I spent a fair amount of time in Kenya, and I understand the regiment needed to go.

But nobody is asking anybody to do that daily. You need two doses of measles vaccine for your entire life.


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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
I spent a fair amount of time in Kenya, and I understand the regiment needed to go.

But nobody is asking anybody to do that daily. You need two doses of measles vaccine for your entire life.




so the vaccine schedule is 2 measles vaccines? since when? I'm pretty sure kids get like 50+ vaccines now between birth and age 5

Edited by AlChemicalResearch (09/03/26 02:37 PM)

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 2
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Yes, most people need just two doses their entire life. That's been the case since like 1957.

Believe it or not, there are many things that vaccines guard against. So yes, people get other ones too.


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Edited by christopera (09/03/26 04:39 PM)

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are fucking our healthcare system up and under RFK we're getting measles again [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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Who says I'm anti vaccines.  I just try to get contexts about why herd immunity isnt working. Immigrants usually start off more religious because churches of the same faith set them up here. Islam, Mormons, Amish, orthodox, Zion chirstains all have higher rates of vaccines hestat . These people also breed more then the avg American so it doesn't take long before there are less vaccinated children leading to herd immunity failing.


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