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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: So Anyway] * 4
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Yes but for a non contaminated, mechanically clean, non porous surface. Such as a shot glass. Simply putting 170°F or hotter water in it will effectively make it sterile and won't cause you problems.

Remember your spore print is axenic anyway.


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
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I put a shot glass or small Corning dish in a small pot and gently boil for 5 minutes. I’ll use the same pot of water to prepare my spore syringes by pulling up and dispensing the boiling water 5 times and leave the last pull in the syringe.
These are syringes being used on spore prints for PF cakes so I consider nothing perfectly clean, just pretty damn clean. I try to make my prints as clean as possible.
I don’t know if a shot glass would tolerate baking in an oven, the Corning  would but the pot is all in one.

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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: The Tao]
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Usually flint/soda lime glass can take a few trips to oven temperature.  Cracking is definitely an issue though.


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: bodhisatta]
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Hey folks, having a tough time getting pans off the ground, would appreciate some advice.  Running ingeli, weza, and TTBVI on white millet and hitting contam even though my tek has been clean. The ingeli is doing fine but with metabolites (?), the weza is getting small  contam with blue spots, the bvi is totally fucked lot of blue zones. The pans are started with T2 transfers that looked clean to me, could it be the millet grain choice or moisture level on the grain (not soggy at all). Should I be taking the culture work further? Maybe I jumped the gun with a T2. Last question is would you grow out the weza regardless or am I wasting my time? Pics for ref. A(ingeli) W(weza) TT (ttbvi)



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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Cerberus909]
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Im sure you'll get alot more relevant engagement in the official pans thread, its very active


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Cerberus909]
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Cerberus909 said:
Hey folks, having a tough time getting pans off the ground, would appreciate some advice.  Running ingeli, weza, and TTBVI on white millet and hitting contam even though my tek has been clean. The ingeli is doing fine but with metabolites (?), the weza is getting small  contam with blue spots, the bvi is totally fucked lot of blue zones. The pans are started with T2 transfers that looked clean to me, could it be the millet grain choice or moisture level on the grain (not soggy at all). Should I be taking the culture work further? Maybe I jumped the gun with a T2. Last question is would you grow out the weza regardless or am I wasting my time? Pics for ref. A(ingeli) W(weza) TT (ttbvi)





I wouldn’t spawn any of them, unfortunately. Panaeolus cult is heavily carried by agar work, so it would be helpful to examine the plates you used to inoculate those jars. I know we generally preach about making as few transfers as possible with these species, but that’s just us chasing an ideal. Nothing wrong with holding out through several transfers as you train your eye.

But, by now those plates are well overgrown so start some fresh spores and post your cultures in the Pan thread as they grow.

Oh and on grain choice. Millet is not my favorite grain for pans as it is often too dry. I don’t think it is the cause of your discoloration, however. That is bruising in response to contamination. Wheat is my fav for pans


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: MojaveMyc]
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Appreciate the comments from u both. Will start fresh and seek plate advice on the pan thread. Thanks for the grain preference too 🤙

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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Munchauzen]
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Hello people,

i am still struggling with the search function and didn't found the answer i was looking for, so i will post my question here.

can the mushroom pump all its energy to only one or a few fruits letting all other pins behind?



or what could be the reason for the other pins not growing simultaneous to this big fruit?

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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: sao tome]
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Could be for any number of reasons.
With multispore especially, you can get different fruiting characteristics, so it's not impossible that it's that, but I would wager that an early fruit just became a huge resource sink and outcompeted the nearby pins/clusters for water and nutrients (early advantage is a real phenomenon), but there are a plethora of factors to look at, and I couldn't narrow it down to just one or two.


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
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It's known that when pins aggregate in a region, the surrounding mycelium supports their development rather than initiating additional primordia nearby. resources are directed into the fruits that gained a foothold early on..  Early pins can also abort, leaving more water and nutrients available for the already-developed (or larger) fruits.


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: fiddle_head]
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thanks fiddle head!
thats interesting!

so could there be an advantage on harvesting as soon as possible the fruits that are growing too fast if the surrounding ones (or all others) stopped developing? with the aim of trying to develop more fruits?

is there something that cn be done to avoid this?

and is it so that most of fotos of full blown grown monotubs are than from cloned mushrooms?

if so, how do people do it on the long run? like, clone untill you u get a perfect harvest and than take the spores of it and repeat the cycle so to "isolate" a good set of genetics?

sorry for the many questions!

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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: sao tome]
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Just harvest when they look ready. You dont have to harvest all at the same time, but it's better because it gives the mycelium a reprieve to recover and spit out a second flush, havind had a refractory period. If there are a few early risers, just cut them off, but avoid doing it repeatedly.


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: sao tome] * 1
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sao tome said:
so could there be an advantage on harvesting as soon as possible the fruits that are growing too fast if the surrounding ones (or all others) stopped developing? with the aim of trying to develop more fruits?


If the pins are already aborted, they will stay that way. Removing the larger fruits will not really stop what's already happening. There's no way you can force it to "even out". It's not a bad thing, some tubs just don't pin all at the same time for anumber of wierd reasons.

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is there something that cn be done to avoid this?
and is it so that most of fotos of full blown grown monotubs are than from cloned mushrooms?


no, not necessarily, many people have perfect tubs from multispore. Munchauzen is known for this.

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how do people do it on the long run? like, clone untill you u get a perfect harvest and than take the spores of it and repeat the cycle so to "isolate" a good set of genetics?


People approach breeding all sorts of ways, but the correct way to approach it is grow from spore or from clones tissue (start anywhere but picking a known proven culture that has a track record is always a safe bet), then select the best fruits based on traits, and grow that from spore again. So basically, yes, with a few caveats.


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
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Mistakes said:
What do you guys make of these spikey outdoor fruits? Looks like the fuzzy feet got spiked up with hairspray. Wildly hot temperatures, inconsistent watering, and probably poor fae before I put more holes in the tent have all afflicted these guys in the past week.
It doesn't materially matter what's causing this and I have no intentions of doing anything about it, I'm just curious. Thanks yall.




I know its late, but something ate those shrooms


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
I know its late, but something ate those shrooms


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Re: Official Trusted Cultivator Q&A Thread - Anyone Can Ask, Only TCs Can Answer! [Re: Kloakk] * 3
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Im pretty decent, wbu kloakk? :pm: Picked up a bunch of sawdust for gourmet grows this morning, cuddling with the dog a bit before attempting to get something done in the garden. Not sure what imma do but theres plenty that i should do lmao im sure once i start small ill find something big. Trying to avoid the mulch spreading but i need to get it done before i can use my tarp to solarize my raised bed, but i need to move the strawberries first and i dont have a good spot ready for em yet, then theres all the wild food processing ive been avoiding. I have a bunch of chokecherries to juice, more dried to make flour, more on the trees to harvest, im not even halway done getting how much hawthorn i want, sumac to process etc.

Anyway im done ranting


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