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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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this shit crazy :takingnotes::takingnotes:

I'm out of the loop so if I'm asking dumb questions just tell me its stickyed, but is there a verified taxonomy on this or a real split from other active species that's been researched? is workman on any of this or is it just a here kind of thing? its interesting that there's like still species being discovered :regularshroom:


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Edited by jbgtaa (05/10/26 10:42 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: jbgtaa]
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They are in fact their own species. This exact collection was sequenced and then sent to me directly from South Africa. I'm not sure what workman is up to these days. I havent seen him in some time now. I sent him a lot of stuff a while back and I can't recall exactly but I'm sure this was in it.

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 2
    #29572846 -

So here's what I have going on.

Trusted print from a community member. Spawned oats to 25/75 poo/coir bulk on March 23. Cased with Peat/Verm/Lime on April 23.


And I run a 110qt. mono with a computer fan that runs every 12 hours for 30 minutes. Bubbler running, and temps around 72 - 75 F.


Where are my pins?


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Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants - A Visual Notebook
Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

Green Cap Pheno Isolation

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: DV8DUG]
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Could be a month or two yet if they do decide to fruit. I wanna say mine only fruited at 80 but I can't recall 100% I have seen others fruit at room temp though.

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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I could warm it up a bit. Turned it down for humidy's sake.


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Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: DV8DUG] * 1
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It's been awhile...

Some IRL mention/request of ochraceocentrata had me coming back to the boards here to try to see what this newer strain is all about...

As far as I gather in many (but not all?) cases natalensis has been mistaken for ochraceocentrata? :confused:

I grew from three individual prints ( pictured below) of (what I thought was) Nats a few years back. Although the conditions were more or less the same, some fruited thin and spaghetti like, other more similar to a typical cube.

so my question is for people who are familiar with the differences between Nats and Ochras, and to truly know what I have been growing...

exhibit A - Nats?


exhibit B - how about these? are these Nats?



exhibit C - and these? Nats?


Thanks everyone!!
MM

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: mistermushly] * 2
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Ochra, ochra, maybe cube on the third but definitely not nats.

I'm pretty sure I posted my nats grow in this thread but I'm too dumb to figure out how to find it easily.

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 5
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PhenoDreamers said:
I'm pretty sure I posted my nats grow in this thread but I'm too dumb to figure out how to find it easily.


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PhenoDreamers said:
I posted potency results forever ago. They are weak. I was able to get a killer flush but it wasn't easy. I did a massive run of them. Like 50 shoeboxes and had 3 or 4 fruit and only doing well. I did clone but never bothered running them again.
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The main difference? Ochra is like the easiest species ever to grow. Natalensis grow only if they want to lol. Same sub and everything. I ran them in a dreamer but I'm sure they'll grow if they want in a monotub



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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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See this is why I love you :skol:

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 1
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I need sum of dat donut true nats genetics :eek: lol looks cool af :rockon:


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 3
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Thank you PhenoDreamers!!
and also to Kloakk for resurfacing that post.

That's helpful. I'll take your word that those are all Ochras, and heed the warning that the third one may be neither- maybe the vendor or poster passed on something that wasn't legit...

I do remember the myc colonizing super fast and it looking very shaving cream like. Another weird thing is I had some bizarre purple contams that I have never seen before with my long history of growing cubes. If memory serves, I believe they were fairly easy to grow - so that matches.

Also - hard to believe the spaghetti-like Ochras(formerly Nats) are the same strain.. I assume just presenting different as the sub-strains of cubes often do, though still a bit odd...

Well.. thanks again!
If anyone else wants to chime in to further verify please do!

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: mistermushly] * 1
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PhenoDreamers said:
Ochra, ochra, maybe cube on the third but definitely not nats.



mistermushly said:
If anyone else wants to chime in to further verify please do!


+1 on all three IDs.

mistermushly said:
Also - hard to believe the spaghetti-like Ochras(formerly Nats) are the same strain.. I assume just presenting different as the sub-strains of cubes often do, though still a bit odd...



Yep, they just be like that. Same ochra culture in both pics (though the taller ones got natural daylight vs ceiling LEDs, so maybe they just need more light to orient direction).



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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: Rasmodius] * 1
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thank-you for the additional data Rasmodius!

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: mistermushly]
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Can someone please help whether this is true Nats or Ochras?
Supplier said Nats but I know a lot of Nats are mislabelled Ochras.

Thanks!!










Edited by hungry_lengthiness (07/03/26 10:40 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: hungry_lengthiness] * 1
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Those are ochraceocentrata

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT ๐Ÿ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 1
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Shot thanks!

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