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 TheDuder
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 The Official Woodlovers Thread  33
#24673753 - 09/30/17 09:11 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Official Woodlovers Thread
(Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata)
Hey everyone
Its about that time of year when the woodlovers start to fruit and everyone wants to make a patch of their own.
Though Ive noticed woodlovers don't get very much attention around here, due to how long it takes for them to fruit.
Theres never a very good place to post woodlover grows/ growing questions so I've decided to make a thread dedicated to just that.
I encourage anyone and everyone to share your woodlover grows, anything from a brick of mycelium to a fully fruiting patch.
I will be posting all my woodlover grows here as well as any info I pick up along the way regarding specific species.
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Psilocybe Cyanescens
Spawned in May
Checked on this spot yesterday and it appears to have some really healthy growth.
I will be laying down a top layer of mulch if this patch decides not to fruit this season.
   
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Psilocybe Azurescens Spot 1
Spawned 12/21/16
I used a mix of soil and alder wood chips as well as ground cover strawberry.
I will get some more updated pictures up soon.
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Psilocybe Azurescens Spot 2
Spawned 9/29/17
I used a mix of soil, alder, apple, and cherry wood chips. I then planted ground cover strawberry and grass seed to make a microclimate for the fruits.
And now we play the waiting game.
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Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata Spot 1
Spawned in November 2016
I will get some pictures up soon. We should be seeing fruit at this patch by spring.
This patch was spawned with a mix of soil and alder wood chips.
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Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata Spot 2
Spawned in May 2017
This patch was spread by stem butts and colonized chips from another ovoid location.
I checked on it recently and the myc seems to have taken to the wood chips. Its possible we see fruit by next spring.
Edited by TheDuder (10/01/17 09:43 PM)
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 Just_A_Noob
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] 6
#24673781 - 09/30/17 09:28 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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1st pic is cyan myc. I propagated the patch from stem butts that I foraged.
2nd pic is a spot that is truly special to me. And yeah I spread myc all over
I only started to grow mushies since last season so this will be my first year checking on outdoor projects. Super excited
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Just_A_Noob] 3
#24673871 - 09/30/17 10:14 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Subbed, thanks for getting this going!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden] 6
#24673920 - 09/30/17 10:37 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilocybe Azurescens in an 104 quart, unmodified tub on Scott's soft wood mulch.
Substrate depth 7 inches. There are two of these kicking. Great thread, Duder!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] 1
#24673941 - 09/30/17 10:47 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I modded you and Just_A_Noob in Outdoor Mushroom Cultivation, if you ever need. Thanks again for this thread guys.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] 1
#24674016 - 09/30/17 11:33 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: LemurLemur] 2
#24674518 - 10/01/17 07:47 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome contributions guys, I'm excited to see the outcome of your projects. 
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] 2
#24674547 - 10/01/17 08:05 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Got some ovoid and ps cyan prints to get me started, great thread topic Duder
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder]
#24674549 - 10/01/17 08:07 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good thinking, Duder!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mycolorado] 1
#24674776 - 10/01/17 09:40 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like this thread. Good luck everyone, here is my offering lol.
Ovoid on beech chips. Got some cyans going too, I don't think they have been established long enough for fruits this year but we can hope right?
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Lovely, I'm in.
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TheMadHatter420
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Thanks for starting this up brother! I didn't have anything to start it with. I am waiting on a few prints yet, but soon I will be starting cyan, serbica, ovoid, stuntzii, quebecensis, and subaeruginosa on agar. I will also have semilanceata but that isn't a wood lover, well as far as I know. I have only heard of it in grass.
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Quote:
frankie-smiles said:
I like this thread. Good luck everyone, here is my offering lol.
Ovoid on beech chips. Got some cyans going too, I don't think they have been established long enough for fruits this year but we can hope right?
Still super early to hope for fruits. Can plant a few more flowers or something this spring and case with coir and soil. You can run peat too but it seems it likes carrying seeds of other stuff with it. I'm still pulling up weeds and it's October.
Good work btw. It's certainly looking good!!!
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Here is a cyan sample on a tea bag, they like leaves. It grew very well, medium in speed.
   
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden]
#24674815 - 10/01/17 09:54 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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So when growing wood lovers in say flower pots, is it better to grow vegetation on top of mushroom bed? Something like grass, or is it species dependent?
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Ferather
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Psilocybe semilanceata would need grass, other species might not need anything, so species dependent.
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TheMadHatter420 said:
So when growing wood lovers in say flower pots, is it better to grow vegetation on top of mushroom bed? Something like grass, or is it species dependent?
I accidentally started my planter from the bottom up. It's meant to be a planter after all but mushrooms are bonus. I have some ivy and cover and next year it'll be full of low grass, ivy, spring flowers and what appears to be a small sapling lol.
Really you wanna hit just the top layers. I keep feeding mine, which is probably why it hasn't been fruiting, and although it's probably colonized the entire center (core samples but you can just observe mycelium tightening the top layer), I might not see fruits until next spring or fall despite throwing tons of mushroom tissue and matures and spawn and colonized chips. Honestly I'm thinking about getting a real long trough type planter to hang on my porch just for more surface area and do all this totally different.
Here's a link to my big one. I have to update this past year on the thread, as I've been posting work somewhere else.
Adden's Planters: Six Psilocybes & Two psilocybes
The big one with six only has 5 woodlovers. I had some old grain with an isolate of cubes from a friend so I added it this summer with verm/peat on top of castings/soil for my flowers. It'd be boss to have woodlovers in Fall and cubes in summer, but the wood eating psilocybes I'm sure will be the winners.
Btw, for those of you growing who don't pick. Go out on a hike or cycling or short walk to the woods and find nice soil. I just came across some black slightly sandy loam while picking and it's gonna be the only soil I use for my projects now on.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden]
#24674899 - 10/01/17 10:14 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I keep getting the itch to whip up some agar and start the 4 I have now. BUT I have enough going on agar right now. Got to finish dealing with clones and clean ups first.
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Oh, and I heavily updated my post above.
Warning: Below is a real long post and very image heavy. If you're not gonna wanna see it, you can click the hide post icon  at the bottom of the thread and you won't see it anymore, but you'll still see the thread.
I have two planters going. One with six psilocybes one with two. Been using them as my dumping grounds for LC, mushrooms that don't survive the ride home after being picked a few hundred miles away, spore slurry, colonized forgotten-about agar plates and LC. Used a lot of colonized chips and fresh chips.
It's easy to start a chip bucket. Do grains and do grains with wood chips. Load soaked and boiled chips to your grain after sitting overnight. The jump to eating lignin is always a crucial point with these (from the failed and successful projects I've seen). If you can get them eating chips faster the better. Those colonized chips will be what's getting the others and your grain will serve as more wood noc points.
Some flower porn and a little bit of what I've got going on.
This started as one planter. The ivy and firewitch grew too fast so I made another small one with ovoids and azures.
This is a Tupperware I used and filled with old pickings. Like the crap that sticks to ovoids no matter what you do. Caps fallen apart etc. I forgot about it from March to mid May, tucked in an old cooler with gardening supplies. I added water and it came back alive and with a vengeance. Spawned it to my big planter.
Mycelium porn big planter.
Old agar to chips in early February lol. Ps azurescens.
This is what it originally looked like after I did all the stuff mentioned in the linked thread above. May 2016.
Some ovoid leaves first week of June 2016.
Some wood chip spawn from a patch in May 2016 that was about to be destroyed by grounds maintenance. It served as a base for my chip bucket, and spread the bucket this spring to four suitable habitats.
I checked the patches last week; I don't wanna disturb them much but they definitely look more "shroomy". Nice low mods enough water, wood to catch pieces as wood and leaves fall down the hill, and if any of the patches fall in a slide, they hit an easily accessible area near water on 3 sides of a 250 foot slope. It'll be 3 to 5 years for the wild ovoid patches to take off is my guess, and when they fall into the river from a slide to the river, they'll be carried all the way the heck down into the forest.
Sept 7th 2016. This is what the expanded chips look like four months after initial planter creation. Added stems of shredded blackberries and leaves and sticks and twigs from habitats I was scouting for the upcoming season.
I took 2 cuttings of my white flowering silverbrush, moved them and the firewitch planter, added a ton of mushroom tissue and fresh cooking chips. This layer must be 1/4 of the way down the planter by now. I put them in there in September so they'd have time to rot and loosen up before adding mushroom tissue and habitat wood/woody soil. Boiled for 4h, drained, used water for LC agar and grains and never got it to stick. If someone does a new grow please see what happens when you use woodwater all the way through. I keep cube plates around accidentally and get them to fruit invitro. I never once had a serbica, allenii, cyan or azure fruit. I had hoped wood water would work but I never ever got the hang of it. Too many contams. Must've needed 20psi for 2h, not 15 for 1.5 hours.
This time last year.
This time this year. I planted one of those little maple tree helicopters (small bunch back left), some kind of tall thin grass snuck in, and the firewitch has taken over the pot. The roots haven't hit the sides yet. These ivy bundles are barely hanging on as far as staying in the pot. They grew down about 20 feet and the neighbors asked me to cut it, as much as they enjoyed the tiny flowers and small colored leaves and hummingbirds.
Patching the shrinking sides with chips woody soil etc. Nearly an entire season of picking trimmings underneath and mixed in. Boiled and drained chips.
Same here on the small one.
February 2017. Chip from old agar pucks and LC.
Mid March 2017
Added different types of wood from an ovoid patch that wasn't fruiting. My projects and all types of wood going bonkers.
Going nuts eating the old silverbrush and wandflower leaves. They shed the bottom as summer ends. Kept everything in the planter. Trimmings from the out of control wandflower (over 2 meters in length. Mycelium jumped that wood and colonized that tilted woody stem from when we first bought it.
February before this spread across the pot.
April 2017. Some early spring growth and expansion. Presumably ovoid. Increased tightening of the top layer but never saw fruits. The root systems of this are very gentle. Patched with soil and worm castings and filled gaps with peat.
Some old discarded plates and LC taking to fresh and wild chips. Pics are Feb 2017. Dumped over colonized PDA plates, wads of LC.
(Edit note: I ran some unmodded lid LC. Hear me out. Potato and dextrose water from wedges in unmodded pint jars filled 15-20% capacity. It worked, but as it began running out of air and stalled, I dumped them in my planters and beds and chip piles in parks).
2016 August chips
August of this year. If we had an ovoid season, and this was fruiting, I'd have a superb ovoid cover.
April this year.
April 20th mycelium porn. Ovoid mostly a handful or two of cyan azure chips. I didn't wanna burn too much of the latter.
My two-month forgotten about ovoid cup with sticks twigs and leaves from the leftover planter with some chips. Added water 2 weeks later spawned it back it was glorious.
Better climate at the bottom to go hide in during absence of light, fae, very low GE, sitting with a bunch of gardening stuff and tools.
April showers bring May flowers.
Plenty seed pods got replanted in both. Pic 2 is flowers budding.
Hardier and redder leaves for the wand flower. The bases are just now becoming much more woody.
Fantastic mid-May cover had it fruited this year.
Active mycelium in August. The dead flowers and leaves of this most recent and final layer got covered in peat. This wood is maybe 2 inches down max.
2016 wandflowers.
2017 blossom. Many more hummingbirds but they are not around much longer if at all.
Hardier cutting doing well. Dropped seeds this year in both planters and replanted.
Autumn is almost late. The ones in the original planter went to seed again real fast and stopped.
Some shoots after peat casing. Colonizing the wood a week after some cold days and cold rain a month ago.
The big open area is from a buried azure stick a couple inches long, about as thick as putting thumb to forefinger. Surrounded by other colonized wood before I put this peat down. Was just way too dry and the plants were burning and wilting. Mixed a half quart of cube isolate and a handful of verm while making a water retention layer.
These are the kind of azures in the stick I got.
Ah, here it is. What the mature ones look like in a subsequent flush 14 days later.
Sometimes their stems seemingly grow off nothing (or in pine needle cases actually).
Oh for those of you spawning.. sometimes azures like a little pine. Leech it well before using in a bed.
I put some of this in my planter. Just stuck it in at a 45 degree angle. I had accidentally stepped on and slipped on this root and took with me some moss and azures. Kept the bark because they love it when it's old enough to eat and they're always stronger and bigger.
This got a lot longer than I thought so I'm just gonna stop now lmao.
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 Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden] 1
#24675536 - 10/01/17 01:40 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is interesting, I have only attempted Cyans when it comes to active lignicolous species, and therefore still very new to the subject.
I read this before attempting it, which said that fruiting was triggered by a drop in temperature, like King oyster, 10-18 °C.
I can tell you it likes the exact same methods, substrates and fruiting system (cool temps) as King oyster.
Unfortunately both King oyster and Cyans are an issue for me due to the required temperature.
I can only grow them seasonally and outdoors, which is not really what I wanted.
Germination also requires cool temperatures, colonize @ 24°C.
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