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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: 99.99]
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i bought like 20 ramiken sized jars to try and make a no pour type deal but I abandoned the idea because it was annoying and just started using them solely for covering spore prints. foil in SAB area, harvest and cut caps, place and cover with tiny jar with a finger of water on top, place SAB and foil off the holes till the next day. well see how well that worked spores done like that just hit agar but a lot of them got sent out


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: 99.99]
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99.99 said:
ClearLakeBoy said:
Put some caps down last Friday looking to get some prints and no spores. All dried up and nothing.





What works best is to put a couple drops of water on the cap and then cover the cap with some kind of small bowl or cup to keep the contamination down and the humidity up that will help the spores drop onto your aluminum foil

What you have going on there would probably not be that clean of a spore  print


Thanks 99
I always just made a teepee of foil over the caps and had good results. let's try this.



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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: ClearLakeBoy] * 2
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Well folks, looks like my time to give this species a whirl is finally happening. An old print put to an old bubbly plate made with the dregs of a BRF agar bottle took about a month to show itself, in which I nearly gave up and the sender was about to offer a replacement. Don't gotta do that anymore!



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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: ClearLakeBoy]
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ClearLakeBoy said:
99.99 said:
ClearLakeBoy said:
Put some caps down last Friday looking to get some prints and no spores. All dried up and nothing.





What works best is to put a couple drops of water on the cap and then cover the cap with some kind of small bowl or cup to keep the contamination down and the humidity up that will help the spores drop onto your aluminum foil

What you have going on there would probably not be that clean of a spore  print


Thanks 99
I always just made a teepee of foil over the caps and had good results. let's try this.




Cups will  work lots better because it keeps more air and contaminating spores from drifting in on your spore prints
It will also help keep moisture in

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: ClearLakeBoy] * 2
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ClearLakeBoy said:
Put some caps down last Friday looking to get some prints and no spores. All dried up and nothing.





Plastic shot glass inside a tub is my new jam.





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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Kloakk]
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I haven’t read the whole thread so I apologize but have we came to an agreement if “ochraceocentrata” is a different species then cubensis, and also if and what is the difference between “natalensis” and “ochraceocentrata”
I know we run them just like cubes but I’m very curious as I received a print and plan on giving it a go

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Kloakk said:
ClearLakeBoy said:
Put some caps down last Friday looking to get some prints and no spores. All dried up and nothing.





Plastic shot glass inside a tub is my new jam.







Great idea Kloakk, thanks


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Edited by ClearLakeBoy (05/19/26 01:54 AM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Awfullotofshrooms] * 3
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Awfullotofshrooms said:
I haven’t read the whole thread so I apologize but have we came to an agreement if “ochraceocentrata” is a different species then cubensis, and also if and what is the difference between “natalensis” and “ochraceocentrata”
I know we run them just like cubes but I’m very curious as I received a print and plan on giving it a go


Yes ochras are a different species then cubes. They like more FAE then cubes but basically the same growing parameters. The trip for me is more upbeat and energetic then cubes and without a dark side. Think of when you were a child and everything was magical. Then toss in a bit of shroomy visuals and there you have it.

True natalensis from what I hear is a difficult species to grow and I haven't heard much on the trip report side of it.
I have not grown true natalensis but I kinda want to to try them out.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Bigworm] * 1
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Hey folks, my latest grow of black cap Ochras.  I’ve grown this strain three or four times before but this is the first grow I’ve gotten the black cap trait to appear.  Before I only ever saw maybe slightly darker caps with a greenish tint.

I went low tech on this with a dub tub in my basement (68deg).  I may try adding a couple of fae holes on the top tub next time.  They turned out a little bit fuzzier than usual.  They also came out a little more “noodly” this time.  We’ll see what the next flush produces.

I grew this flush out from a plate pin.  I took a number of samples to agar after harvesting.

Feel free to offer suggestions.  I’m certainly not an expert :grin:









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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: GerryD]
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GerryD said:
Hey folks, my latest grow of black cap Ochras.  I’ve grown this strain three or four times before but this is the first grow I’ve gotten the black cap trait to appear.  Before I only ever saw maybe slightly darker caps with a greenish tint.

I went low tech on this with a dub tub in my basement (68deg).  I may try adding a couple of fae holes on the top tub next time.  They turned out a little bit fuzzier than usual.  They also came out a little more “noodly” this time.  We’ll see what the next flush produces.

I grew this flush out from a plate pin.  I took a number of samples to agar after harvesting.

Feel free to offer suggestions.  I’m certainly not an expert :grin:













don't know what causes it. the weirdest answer is that its eating contamination? or its really full to bursting with actives .and non actives. I'm not smart enough to tell.

what I do I know is that for my grows gree bruising was regular. dark green becomes black like most colors. it could be other oxidants.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: jbgtaa]
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jbgtaa said:
don't know what causes it. the weirdest answer is that its eating contamination? or its really full to bursting with actives .and non actives. I'm not smart enough to tell.

what I do I know is that for my grows gree bruising was regular. dark green becomes black like most colors. it could be other oxidants.



I guess I assumed it is psilocin oxidizing in the cap but I may be wrong.  At least in my case they started out looking like plain old Ochras and then started turning black maybe 3-4 days before maturity.


Edited by GerryD (05/19/26 11:06 PM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: GerryD]
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Are black caps any stronger, potency wise, then other isolations of ochres? Anyone ever isolate the green eyed snakes?


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Bigworm] * 6
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Some ochra grown like pans.



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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: tree frog] * 3
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Another weird one, also from a higher air pan type grow



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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: A.k.a] * 2
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Best results yet. Lower spawn ratio after cloning a good fruit. Nice.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: bluespirit13]
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Bigworm] * 1
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Bigworm said:
Are black caps any stronger, potency wise, then other isolations of ochres? Anyone ever isolate the green eyed snakes?


I’m not sure on potency, I haven’t tried them yet.  I realized I should have tried some fresh but didn’t think of it until after they were on the drying rack for a while.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: GerryD] * 4
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These are unlike anything ive ever grown
Ive got perfectly clean plates and ive taken that to bulk
100% coir 1 to 3 ratio
Grown in a Martha and look how aggressive and ropey the mycelium is it’s not overlay, but I don’t know what to call it
Anyways, this tray is only seven days old


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: 99.99] * 1
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Hi everybody, Ochra first timer here.





The two smaller trays are CVG with pseudo casing. The bigger tray is coir + horse manure + verm + gypsum with peat moss/verm/p.lime casing (1:3.5) started fruiting conditions all the same day.

Genetics are from one LC. Natalensis Super Strength

Edited by Djackoo (05/21/26 09:41 AM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Some ochra grown like pans.




You always have the prettiest jars TF. A photo series of them would be cool


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