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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
So lots of rumors floating around DC that Trump is going to federalize the Metropolitan Police Department tomorrow



Rumors are bigger than just that.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Your opinion of the particular crime(s) is irrelevant. 

Trump is a known convicted criminal on 34 felony counts.  Your assumption that he's some paragon of legal virtue is clearly, objectively unfounded.

But go ahead and write another essay about it if that would make you feel better.



When did I ever use the word virtue? I'd never use that word to describe Trump.

Can you give me an instance of him acting in the capacity as POTUS that he's violated some law? Because regardless of your strawmanned, "checkmate," my argument is about the fact you can't call Trump a fascist if he's acting as POTUS within legal boundaries. SCOTUS is there to interpret whether what Trump does is legal or not, if necessary. So far, he's waited until SCOTUS makes rulings on big issues before taking action when necessary, including when he was cockblocked by lower courts. (And thankfully, SCOTUS ruled the lower courts can't cockblock him like that any longer.)


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
Warrk said:
Sidelining and pulling funding from media outlets that Trump doesn't like is fascism.

Sacking workers who produce statistics that go against Trump's claims is fascism.



Are these government employees? Is this government funding?

It's not fascism.

If people don't like the results in 3 1/2 years then they vote in the other direction, just as our system was intended to operate in the very beginning.



Politicizing and firing the civil service is a necessary and common tactic in any fascist regime

The reason Trump wants to have a new census that doesn’t count immigrants is not to stack the congressional deck in 2026, it is to take away house seats from blue states and give them to red states so the electoral college is more difficult to win for democrats in 2026. There isn’t time for a census before 2026

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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Politicizing and firing the civil service is a necessary and common tactic in any fascist regime




The claim was she lied and fudged numbers.

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The reason Trump wants to have a new census that doesn’t count immigrants is not to stack the congressional deck in 2026, it is to take away house seats from blue states and give them to red states so the electoral college is more difficult to win for democrats in 2026. There isn’t time for a census before 2026



I appreciate you admitting that the House would be crushed by Republicans if it wasn't for the fact illegal aliens are counted on the census.

It also affects the Electoral College a few points in the democrats favor as well.

In the long-term, I don't want republicans to have all the power, so it's really a damn shame how much the dems have had to rely on illegal aliens to boost their ability to win elections. It's quite self-evident that we're in the FAFO phase when it comes to how the dems have been playing the voting game.

I mean... do you really think any of these cocksuckers in power that rant on and on about "the poor people being deported from our country" give a shit about anything but their seat in power? They know illegal aliens benefit their power and inflate their influence. It's all a fucking act on their part to "care" about these people.

They're going to have to invent a new strategy that involves transparency and honesty. The Old Guard can't do that. As I said months ago, the party is doomed. They're going to implode and be forced to re-invent themselves.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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VP JD Vance expects to see a lot of people get indicted on Russia-gate.

I think that statement has more to do with Vance vs Rubio 2028 than anything else.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
VP JD Vance expects to see a lot of people get indicted on Russia-gate.

I think that statement has more to do with Vance vs Rubio 2028 than anything else.



Ugh. I don't want either of them. Gimme Tulsi. She's far more qualified. Let's get a Hindu woman of color in the White House. (No DEI required!) That'll turn heads.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
dinosaurs said:
Enlil said:
Maybe you should look up the word fascism.  You don't seem to have the first clue what it means.



ive posted links in both this and his "america is ending real soon now(tm)" threads but he's proven himself to be utterly unwilling or unable to read and educate himself even when spoon fed reputable sources. 

they say that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.  however between now and when it dies of thirst or drowns itself out of spite, the proverbial horse can vote.



"Reputable source?" CNN? :rofl:



you're right, we should use a geocities debt clock website if we want to get through to you. 

you are the proverbial horse.  let loose in a library you'd sooner make a fort out of the books than open one up to take a read.  it's willful ignorance at best.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
Warrk said:
Sidelining and pulling funding from media outlets that Trump doesn't like is fascism.

Sacking workers who produce statistics that go against Trump's claims is fascism.



Are these government employees? Is this government funding?

It's not fascism.

If people don't like the results in 3 1/2 years then they vote in the other direction, just as our system was intended to operate in the very beginning.



Government funding comes from and belongs to the people, and there are rules and regulations, and laws and policies, as to how public funds are spent.

It is not a democratic process for an elected public official such as POTUS to bypass these rules, regulations, laws and policies to make decisions on a whim.

POTUS is a servant of the people.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
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Politicizing and firing the civil service is a necessary and common tactic in any fascist regime




The claim was she lied and fudged numbers.





Let's test the claim then.

On the other hand, Trump is a proven liar who lies repeatedly and regularly and on a daily (hourly?) basis.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Ice Nine said:
This administration has used threats of ending government contracts to force the largest law offices in this country to stop working on liberal causes and provide free work on conservative causes.  That should alarm everyone, because if one administration can do it, why can't the next, and maybe you don't agree with the next admins policies as much as you do this one's.



This is a good argument and not without merit. If you can give me more specifics, I could give you a better answer. I will say for now, however, that I agree Trump is taking a big gambit with the way he is operating and setting precedents that will be remembered for... probably centuries to come. Maybe millennia.



this country won't last another 200yrs with the way shit is going... I'm kinda expecting for the 2nd civil war to pop off in the next 5yrs honestly🤷‍♂️...too many of ya'll buy into the blue & red bullshit for it not to happen

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Warrk] * 1
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and lets just cut this "he has a mandate" bullshit off at the knees.

some quick info:

174 million Americans were registered to vote. this represents 74% of eligible Americans age 18+.

154 million Americans voted in 2024. this represents 88% of registered voters, 65% of eligible adults, and 45% of the US population.

74 million Americans are under age 18 and thus ineligible to vote.

in the 2024 election, the orange pedo received ~77 million votes. this represents 49.8% of the total votes and 22% of the US population.

you'd have to be absolutely disconnected from reality to think that in a country of 340,000,000 people, winning with 22% (77,300,000) of the population and less than 50% of the votes constitutes a mandate of any sort.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
and lets just cut this "he has a mandate" bullshit off at the knees.

some quick info:

174 million Americans were registered to vote. this represents 74% of eligible Americans age 18+.

154 million Americans voted in 2024. this represents 88% of registered voters, 65% of eligible adults, and 45% of the US population.

74 million Americans are under age 18 and thus ineligible to vote.

in the 2024 election, the orange pedo received ~77 million votes. this represents 49.8% of the total votes and 22% of the US population.

you'd have to be absolutely disconnected from reality to think that in a country of 340,000,000 people, winning with 22% (77,300,000) of the population and less than 50% of the votes constitutes a mandate of any sort.



Still higher mandate then Clinton both wins. Bigger then Hitler mandate.  Again we all know the political capital argument that even if was following model wise, is dead and gone.  Bring on the civil war, loser gets Florida.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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That's a made up metric though.  Like, I understand your argument but it has no bearing on fascism, whatsoever.  Fascism isn't defined by law breaking.  There's really no reason to entertain the point you think you're making at all.  Nevertheless, Trumpy is a known liar and convicted felon.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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And known friend of pedos.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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And known frequenter of pedo island

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 3
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Bill Clinton beat George H Bush by 5.6% 1992.
He beat Bob Dole by 8.5% in 1996.
Ross Perot was 3rd party in both elections.

Trump beat Harris by 1.7%

Bill Clinton electoral votes 370 vs Bush, 379 vs Dole.
Trump electoral votes 304 vs Hillary, 312 vs Haris.

If Trump says "mandate" enough times some people will believe him.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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1992 bill Clinton got 43% of vote, 1996 he got 49% of the vote with lower turnout and no 3rd Party bring him down.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope] * 2
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with Washington DC crime at its lowest rate in 30 years pedo trumps latest power grab distraction from the Epstein files is to send the national guard to DC, and take over both the local police and PROSECUTORS OFFICE.

so we see that pedonnie knows how to call the national guard to protect dc, which he was in winning to do amidst his insurrection on Jan 6.

everything he's accused others of doing was just him reading his own playbook.  meanwhile the "what the fuck is going on with grocery prices??" threads are starting to pop up everywhere as the economy rapidly falls into recession.

going after the press, going after academia, gong after political opponents, going after the homeless, threatening our allies, extorting our trade partners.

how anyone could argue that trump/maga arent fascist is beyond me.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
with Washington DC crime at its lowest rate in 30 years pedo trumps latest power grab distraction from the Epstein files is to send the national guard to DC, and take over both the local police and PROSECUTORS OFFICE.

so we see that pedonnie knows how to call the national guard to protect dc, which he was in winning to do amidst his insurrection on Jan 6.

everything he's accused others of doing was just him reading his own playbook.  meanwhile the "what the fuck is going on with grocery prices??" threads are starting to pop up everywhere as the economy rapidly falls into recession.

going after the press, going after academia, gong after political opponents, going after the homeless, threatening our allies, extorting our trade partners.

how anyone could argue that trump/maga arent fascist is beyond me.



D.C. is one of the most dangerous cities in the United States right now.

Trump said during the press conference today he might send the troops to other cities in America if they don't clean up their act.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 3
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FoolOfElysium said:
D.C. is one of the most dangerous cities in the United States right now.

Trump said during the press conference today he might send the troops to other cities in America if they don't clean up their act.




that is a bald-faced lie.  crime in DC is at it's lowest point in 30 years. DC isn't in the top 25 for violent crime per capita in the USA, but you know what is #1 every year?  memphis tennessee. 

pedoboy is threatening to send troops to blue state cities.  no mention of memphis or any of the other red state cities that top crime statistics year in and out. the top 3 cities with the most crime are red state cities, and 8 of the top 10 with the most crime are red state cities.

again, everything you say is bullshit and can be disproven through 30 seconds with google.

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