geokills said:

Enlil said:

This is a temporary thing.  This is not fundamentally changing the way our system is structured.  If moves are made that do that, then I will be the first to point it out.  Much of what trump has done will have no legal effect at all, like trying to end birthright citizenship.  What he's accomplishing is a mass-disruption of the system...not an alteration of it.

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Pardon me for hopping in here nearly 40,000 replies in .... But I tend to agree.  If Trump wanted to enact durable change, he would have worked with his congressional constituents to pass legislation toward that effect.  By attempting to implement everything via executive order, much of it will not only end up hamstrung in the courts, but whatever might get pushed through can be reversed as easily as it was enacted by the next administration.

Which isn't to say the guy can't do a lot of damage and make a big mess in the interim.  And there is still a non-zero chance of him trying to pull a legit and bona fide coup.  Ideally, our system of government will be up to defend itself against the most terrible of scenarios.  Nevertheless, it seems pretty clear we're in for an ugly and uncertain few years.

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GenesisCorrupted said:

Considering everyone is pretty flabbergasted and only the most delusional of his followers are enjoying this. I feel like there’s almost 0 % chance of a republican getting elected next presidential cycle. But it depends who the Democrats put forward I guess.

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GenesisCorrupted said:

Considering everyone is pretty flabbergasted and only the most delusional of his followers are enjoying this. I feel like there’s almost 0 % chance of a republican getting elected next presidential cycle. But it depends who the Democrats put forward I guess.

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vicepope said:

koods said:

They accidentally let Russian state media into the Oval Office today

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Silly koods they have been in that office for a month.

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Brian Jones said:

Isn't in unusual that a party controlling the executive branch, Senate, and the House can't pass a budget? That was pretty boring to most people anyway, so now we have a little more interesting continuing resolution because the Democrats are back in the game, and in 12 days far more interesting government shutdown.

It all fits in with what I have been saying that the GOP had to just  pretend they were making progress on the budget to avoid the appearance of failure. Now they got failure because they needed 0 dem Senators to advance a budget but 7 for a continuing resolution.

The House is even more interesting, because the fiscal hawks on the right don't like continuous resolutions because they would be voting for Biden's deficit. some have never voted for a CR. Moderates representing low income districts didn't like slashed social programs and would have put many of them out of work in two years. Democrats could play a large role in the House CR.

What's to come is going to be a huge blame game. The Democrats start with the advantage because they haven't screwed anything up since last year, and it wasn't their job to pass a budget. Elon Musk is very unpopular and Trump is polling low on managing the government.     

A humorous side note to this right now is House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune working fervently to craft a funding plan that will please Trump, without knowing what agencies they're supposed to be funding.

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Mwj12977 said:

As much as it pains the “Red Dawn Wolverine” in me to say this, A good relationship with Russia makes more sense than pissing them off and siding with the Ukraine. Better us and Russia than China and Russia.

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