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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Huskies] * 2
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Excited to be back to some agar work after a long break :headbang:

I have never read about BRF being more resistant to bacteria. You can make BRF agar or also BRF pucks - the latter being what is commonly used for cleaning away from bacteria. BRF agar isnt better than any other agar recipes for cleaning so far as i know. Lots of good tips in Josex`Poke: No Mercy for Bacteria TEK for anyone searching for info on getting rid of bacteria. Also got into LC with his Poke TEK and had some great results - thanks Josex :bow2:

I recently germinated lots of different strains on BRF agar (can recognise due to opaque milky look) and LME agar and its interesting to observe how the spores seem to germinate better and more vigorously on the BRF Agar. I actually prepped that BRF agar over a year ago because it seemed like my cultures were bored of LME agar after too many transfers and just resterilised and used it now so i dont recall the exact composition unfortunately.

The 4 clone plates are form a store bought king oyster seeing as im looking to get into more medicinal and edible mushrooms. Seems like theyre happy :smile:



And thanks for all the generous spore donations i received from the marketplace - i hope to spread some love too after i get some fruit :mushroom2:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MycCycle]
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MycCycle said:
nektar61 said:
Pic tax, Still Life with Flow Hood




Is it .1% active charcoal you use with those plates? They look very black on my screen. I love it!



To make 80 to 90 plates (if you want to make half as much, divide each ingredient by 2, etc):

--Start with 1.6 liter of distilled water.

I use Living Jin brand agar, but other types will work. Telephone brand is common in Asian food grocery stores or sections in bigger grocery stores. Don't use gelatin, is not the same thing. Though sometimes agar is called "vegetable gelatin" but make sure the only ingredient is agar (or "agar agar.")

I use Anthony's Activated Charcoal. But others will probably work.

Add:

--16 grams of dried potato flakes. (you can substitute malt extract, but I've had better results with potato)
--30 grams of powdered agar agar.
--24 grams of dextrose.
--15 grams powdered activated charcoal. (optional)

Black plates look goth as fuck, and also seems to get nicer looking mycelium than same mix without it, it may act as a nutrient. My plates got my rhizo after I started using it. It's carbon, and life needs and loves carbon. We are all just part of the carbon cycle, so are shrooms, and the grain we grow them on.

Tip for noobs: I don't recommend using other colors until you get very good at recognizing contams. Blue, green, etc make it harder to see contams. And the most common red food coloring is anti-fungal!

My whole agar tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27551422#27551422

They are very dark. Here's one after I cut out a bunch of transfer chunks

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MycCycle]
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I have not. This was my first time trying the grab and drag method for swabs, I think having made the drags through the agar in the other locations once I went to jab the cotton into the center of the plate it just didn’t want to let go of the blade.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Huskies] * 1
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Huskies said:
....Has there ever been any tests with using antibacterial additives?...



This reliably comes up every once in a while on here. I asked it early on. I've seen it in posts after I got here, and in posts well before I got here.

This isn't needed. It's very simple to get good technique with preparing / PCing / transferring and not have contam.

If you've got contam in a tub you probably had contam in the jar, or in the plate. Once you get to a full jar of clean spawn, it's very hard to be out competed in the tub.

You grow some really good tubs from what I remember, are you having contam issues? I didn't think you would.

Anyone having contam issues, read this start to finish,
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27646632#27646632

It solves for several contam vectors some might not think of. Pay special attention to the fact that some coir for flower gardening has added fungus.

Even if it's advertised as "anti-fungal anti-bacterial, that may be (and probably is) because of the added "beneficial fungi", Trichoderma.

That is not harmful to plants but will ruin a shroom grow.

Trichoderma harzianum is a fungus that is also used as a fungicide. It is used for foliar application, seed treatment and soil treatment for suppression of fungal pathogens causing various fungal plant diseases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichoderma_harzianum

There is at least one TC here that will tell me I'm wrong on this but he's wrong.

Edited by nektar61 (11/12/24 06:31 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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Haven't read your writeup yet (it's long 😂) but I definitely agree with your comment. You never need antibacterial additives. Not in grain, not in sub, not in agar.

I'm saving your writeup for a later read

Who's the TC you're referring to 🤣

I have a writeup I'm working on as well that will cover some contamination issues through plate work. Be a bit before I actually finish it.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29020482

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
Huskies said:
....Has there ever been any tests with using antibacterial additives?...



This reliably comes up every once in a while on here. I asked it early on. I've seen it in posts after I got here, and in posts well before I got here.

This isn't needed. It's very simple to get good technique with preparing / PCing / transferring and not have contam.

If you've got contam in a tub you probably had contam in the jar, or in the plate. Once you get to a full jar of clean spawn, it's very hard to be out competed in the tub.

You grow some really good tubs from what I remember, are you having contam issues? I didn't think you would.

Anyone having contam issues, read this start to finish,
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27646632#27646632

It solves for several contam vectors some might not think of. Pay special attention to the fact that some coir for flower gardening has added fungus.

Even if it's advertised as "anti-fungal anti-bacterial, that may be (and probably is) because of the added "beneficial fungi", Trichoderma.

That is not harmful to plants but will ruin a shroom grow.

Trichoderma harzianum is a fungus that is also used as a fungicide. It is used for foliar application, seed treatment and soil treatment for suppression of fungal pathogens causing various fungal plant diseases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichoderma_harzianum

There is at least one TC here that will tell me I'm wrong on this but he's wrong.



I can get good flushes, and I've had great tubs, but recently I've had lots of contamination issues despite what I think is very good agar prep. I do think I've been messing up with the g2g and agar to grain.

Like, this tub looks fantastic for natalensis, was over 1000g wet. Molded immediately after. All of my natalensis tubs did that, despite supposedly being able to " eat" trich.



I think on the agar level, I am safe, unless its sneaky bacteria that has been hitching along since the MS swab. I'll be doing the Josex poke to clean them up more.

On the grain level, the grain prep and sterilization I'm comfortable with, but I think I need to be less confident inside of the SAB, especially with g2g, which I am going to phase out and prepare LCs to pour.

I was using coir that sometimes sucked, it had sticks, stones, I found a piece of ribbon before. Despite everyone always sayings its the grain/agar, a bucket tek stick that went unnoticed in the coir seems like a vector of contamination for me. New stuff seems great.

I might try adding some black pepper in my next plates just as a test. Would be interesting to see if bacteria (from my mouth) has a hard time colonizing it versus a regular plate.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Huskies]
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Try sterilizing your substrate. Not pasteurizing but actually sterilizing.

If that doesn't work alone, then use MGP+ when spawning to bulk on sterilized sub.

Mgp+ is beneficial bacteria from Dr. Myc

Mix a fresh batch every time and with spring water only.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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SupaThaRipper said:
Try sterilizing your substrate. Not pasteurizing but actually sterilizing.



No. Pasteurization is not only fine, it's better than sterilizing. Sterilizing will kill the very tiny amount of ambient bacteria in a house's air or in verm naturally. It should stay, it is beneficial in keeping other things from growing, like mold.

True sterilizing will make your sub MORE likely to have contam, not less likely like pasteurization.

I boil water in the microwave, a big cup at a time, or boil on stove, and dump all over coir in a bucket. Cover bucket, break up and stir. Immediate spreads out and is lower temp than boiling. Cover it and let it soak to near room temp, it does the job.

SupaThaRipper said:
If that doesn't work alone, then use MGP+ when spawning to bulk on sterilized sub.



Never heard of this but I've never heard one TC mention it, nor any long-time grower with good grows other than you recommend it.

I suspect you're doing well despite it, not because of it (like the 1 or 2 TCs that started 15 years ago and still use gypsum in bulk grow.

Quick search shows most people mentioning it are people I haven't heard of here, and people trying to deal with overwhelming contam that should be stopped the ways that work. (transferring away, having good tek)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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I have some cultures and I'm hoping you guys can help me out here, tell me if I'm on the right track or if I should start some new germ plates.

Here I have some T1 from GT-MSS germ plates they've been growing over the last 3 weeks since transfer. I'm wondering if these are good?





I also have some T2 transfers I took from some of those above plates early on, they spread out a lot faster but more fluffy. Is this just "tomentose" or am I growing cobweb or some other fluffy mold?




I also took some transfers from a Corumba Brazil MSS germ plate and ended up with these, they don't look too promising.


Guidance or tips on any of this much appreciated :smile:
Agar is made with Milkboy PDA tek
All work done in front of FFU

I seem to only get fluffy growth or thin growth and not the bright white rhizo growth I see in other posts.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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Sterilizing substrate hands down has given me better results than pasteurizing ever did. Fuck pasteurizing.

I've ran both methods thoroughly. Mgp+ is just icing to the cake. Have you ever sterilized your sub to experiment? Or are you just speaking what you've heard? Everything that has ever come out of my mouth I have tested myself to know if I can speak on it, unless I say otherwise.

Are you just running cubes? Or exotics that stick around for months and months, even over half a year straight on the same substrate without contaminating? Sterilizing is king to everything, always.

Bacteria in verm by itself? Show me.

Dude you realize how big the myco community is outside of the shroomery? Lol just because people using it are people you've never heard, doesn't mean it's not legitimate.

And to add. Just because YOU get away with pasteurizing, doesn't mean everyone will regardless if their technique is spot on. There's a million variables that come into play always. For the first half of my year growing last year, I got away with cold water sub hydration and zero pasteurizing or sterilizing and then all of sudden one day came trich. I went through ever scenario possible sorting it out and only sterilization worked. Think my spawn or agar is bad? Send me an address I will ship you some to look at it yourself.

Edited by PhenoDreamers (11/12/24 12:59 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mist3rfortunate] * 1
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mist3rfortunate said:
I have some cultures and I'm hoping you guys can help me out here, tell me if I'm on the right track or if I should start some new germ plates.

Here I have some T1 from GT-MSS germ plates they've been growing over the last 3 weeks since transfer. I'm wondering if these are good?





I also have some T2 transfers I took from some of those above plates early on, they spread out a lot faster but more fluffy. Is this just "tomentose" or am I growing cobweb or some other fluffy mold?




I also took some transfers from a Corumba Brazil MSS germ plate and ended up with these, they don't look too promising.


Guidance or tips on any of this much appreciated :smile:
Agar is made with Milkboy PDA tek
All work done in front of FFU

I seem to only get fluffy growth or thin growth and not the bright white rhizo growth I see in other posts.




Look at the hyphae on the plates that you think could be mold. No one here can tell from the pictures. You need look up close at the leading edge. Are they growing straight outwards or just kind of curling back in and all looking scattered and crazy. The later would be mold.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mist3rfortunate] * 1
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mist3rfortunate said:
I have some cultures and I'm hoping you guys can help me out here, tell me if I'm on the right track or if I should start some new germ plates.

Here I have some T1 from GT-MSS germ plates they've been growing over the last 3 weeks since transfer. I'm wondering if these are good?





I also have some T2 transfers I took from some of those above plates early on, they spread out a lot faster but more fluffy. Is this just "tomentose" or am I growing cobweb or some other fluffy mold?




I also took some transfers from a Corumba Brazil MSS germ plate and ended up with these, they don't look too promising.


Guidance or tips on any of this much appreciated :smile:
Agar is made with Milkboy PDA tek
All work done in front of FFU

I seem to only get fluffy growth or thin growth and not the bright white rhizo growth I see in other posts.



I see no obvious mold, but it's hard to tell with pix taken from the side like that. Taking better Petri dish and shroom grow photos

Third one down, GT1 has a little wet spot at 9 oclock that might be bacteria, or might be water condensation. Need a better picture. if it doesn't flow like water when plate is moved, is more likely bacteria.

As for "cobweb mold", an OG TC (Bod) said "it's never cobweb", and that he'd seen it 2x in 5 years.

It's kind of 3D and smokey looking, which yours does not appear to be. 

Pix of actual cobweb mold.

It's tomentose (Tommy toes) (lol) mycelium, as opposed to rhizo. Tommy tose is fine, can be just as strong. Rhizo just looks cooler, and is easier to tell from mold (which is usually tomotose."

Read the full tek in my sig line, this is from it (so is the picture tek I posted.)

"-Fluffy (tomentose) mycelium can be as good as rhizo (ropey). Rhizo just looks cool. Also, people like rhizo because it's easier to tell from fluffy mold. Our brains are trained by evolution to recoil from mold."

Pic tec, some rhizo:

Edited by nektar61 (11/12/24 04:19 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
I see no obvious mold, but it's hard to tell with pix taken from the side like that. [url=/forums/showflat.php/Number/27726375#27726375]Taking better Petri dish and shroom grow photos[/url



I'll look into that one.
I'll give you an update on the x7x(+) and the Hens and Chicks sometime soon as well.

Nothing but I's, but be patient, I'm like fungi; takes time :laugh:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 2
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SupaThaRipper said:
Sterilizing substrate hands down has given me better results than pasteurizing ever did. Fuck pasteurizing.

I've ran both methods thoroughly. Mgp+ is just icing to the cake. Have you ever sterilized your sub to experiment? Or are you just speaking what you've heard? Everything that has ever come out of my mouth I have tested myself to know if I can speak on it, unless I say otherwise.

Are you just running cubes? Or exotics that stick around for months and months, even over half a year straight on the same substrate without contaminating? Sterilizing is king to everything, always.

Bacteria in verm by itself? Show me.

Dude you realize how big the myco community is outside of the shroomery? Lol just because people using it are people you've never heard, doesn't mean it's not legitimate.

And to add. Just because YOU get away with pasteurizing, doesn't mean everyone will regardless if their technique is spot on. There's a million variables that come into play always. For the first half of my year growing last year, I got away with cold water sub hydration and zero pasteurizing or sterilizing and then all of sudden one day came trich. I went through ever scenario possible sorting it out and only sterilization worked. Think my spawn or agar is bad? Send me an address I will ship you some to look at it yourself.



You sound very angry. Are you? I can't tell for sure. But I was being friendly, there was zero "fuck you" in my reply. It was completely matter of fact.

I have mostly only run cubes. Did a few woodlovers and some Nat, but not long term one tub.

I have not tried pasteurized vs sterilized side by side with a control group. Though very few things people say and do here have been done that way. A real experiment with that would probably involve at least 25 tubs of each, with all other criteria being identical.

The word "experiment" is used here (and on Reddit) but I have seen only a handful of true experiments here, and none there.

I am going by what works and by what people say, but the people have been some of the main people here doing this for a decade or more, and they still produce very good to extraordinary results.

Maybe if you're posting something to someone having trouble, and your answer is not a simple way, and contrary to how it's often done, stress a little more with "this isn't how it's done often, but this is how I do it."

You were responding to someone here who is not new but was suddenly having contam issues. Was your answer the best choice for that person? That's what I was going for.

If you know of other people here sterilizing and using Mgp+, point them out, post some links please. I did a quick search here and found you, plus names I didn't know.....which looked like a combination of long time ago and people who weren't here long enough (or didn't grow great tubs enough) to stand out.

I certainly don't claim to be the final answer here, but there is a group consensus here that changes very slowly over time.

If this particular thing has changed, and there are TCs or OGs using that bacterial addition plus sterilizing, point them out please, give me some links and I'll look into it.

That includes resources outside here. Or I'd like to even know the links for the sites you're talking about. Or are you talking in person, not online? I certainly would not know the people you know.

Other than that, you do you.
Be well.

Edited by nektar61 (11/12/24 04:08 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: cronicr] * 7
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cronicr said:
K back in the day that all stemmed from RR preaching it like it was gospel
I issued 1000 dollar challenge that nobody ever accepted or at least succeeded with
Challenge was if a fruit could contain more than one strain it's should be easy enough to take two completely different mushrooms like a rustywhyte and a penis envy ...cross them and when you find that pe looking rustywhyte clone it and show the sectors ....now try separate it back to both lol 😂



Fruit bodies often contain more than a single parental haplont (monokaryotic  parent). Mushrooms typically undergo a process called dikaryosis, where two haploid nuclei (one from each parent) coexist in the same cell for a significant portion of the fungus's life cycle. These two nuclei are not immediately fused, this dikaryotic phase is characteristic of many Basidiomycetes including Psilocybe et al.

Dikaryotic cells in the mushroom's lamellae contain two distinct haploid nuclei per cell, one from each parent. Only when these nuclei fuse (during sexual reproduction) does the organism return to a diploid state, but this is a transient stage before meiosis and spore formation.

So,fruit bodies of higher mushrooms are often composed of cells that contain the genetic material of both parental haplonts in a dikaryotic state, and in many species (including the active ones), these haploids are not from a single parent but from two different mating types.

These haplonts along with mating types can be observed by subjecting tertiary mycelium (clone material) to chemical dedikaryotization, microscopy, etc.

Quote:
“The main aim of this research is to collect and characterize the germplasm of two native wild strains from the Mexican Mixtec region. With this study, the authors also intend to promote the production of Pleurotus spp. fungi in Mexico. A chemical dedikaryotization process was used for the recovery of symmetrical monokaryotic components, where the compatible neohaplonts produced different types of hybrid strains. Morphology and mycelium growth rate characteristics were compared between native, neohaplonts and hybrid strains.”



https://www.utm.mx/postgrado/MCPNyAl/Evaluacion2014/C1-Estructura%20y%20personal%20academico/1.4%20LGAC/1.4.2%20Participacion%20de%20estudianes%20y%20profesores/Articulos/Dra.%20Paula/bjm-2014-.pdf

By reversing the dikaryotic phase one can recover the monokaryotic components of said fruit body, revealing genetic materials from at least 2 mated monokaryotic strains, up to 8:

Quote:
Identification of neohaplonts’ compatibility types and production of reconstituted strains
To identify the two types of monokaryotic components, a neohaplont was randomly selected and mated on MEA plates with all remaining neohaplonts. Dikaryotic mycelium, characterized by the presence of clamp connections, was produced when two compatible neohaplonts were mated. With this approach, eight reconstituted strains were produced.



https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6314949/

There is absolutely no argument available to support meristogenous formation of fruitbodies due to the requirement for compatible mating types to produce basidiocarp.

This is true for all basidiocarp forming species (edit: excluding asexual mating species) including cubes. Each recovered parental neohaplont will be comprised of 2 other parental haplonts making even the simplest of strains symphogenous. Aslo, sectoring doesn't really = anything significant.

The very fact that mating needs to occur and the differences in mating types exist, all fruit bodies must by definition contain multiple strains. One cannot reduce the number of strains, one cannot select individual mated stains or isolate monokaryotic strains with a scalpel or any other tool.

Single strain isolation can only be achieved by dedikaryotization or a combo of serial dilution and manipulation of individually germed monokaryons with microscopy with micromanipulators.

Where do I collect my coin? Lol  JK. Ol uncle stipe does this shit for free....

But I would appreciate it if Y'all subscribed to my YouTube channel linked in my sig. :wonka:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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One of my plates of GT on LME, 10 days of growth. Judging by other pictures I think this is ready to clone to another plate of agar. My question to ask is, is all this growth good or is part of it mold? Also check that worm thing in the middle :eek:

My apologies for the photo quality, I am new and getting used to photographing agar.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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cronicr said:
K back in the day that all stemmed from RR preaching it like it was gospel
I issued 1000 dollar challenge that nobody ever accepted or at least succeeded with
Challenge was if a fruit could contain more than one strain it's should be easy enough to take two completely different mushrooms like a rustywhyte and a penis envy ...cross them and when you find that pe looking rustywhyte clone it and show the sectors ....now try separate it back to both lol 😂



haha. Well, often the first person to write the book is thought of as "he wrote the BOOK on that topic", and he did. (I'd still trust RR posts here more than I'd trust Stamets' book.)

RR did help a lot of people learn to grow, even if they spent way too much time looking for ghosts in their agar because of him.

Quote:
Stipe-n Cap said:...sectoring doesn't really = anything significant.....



That was the only part I understood in that dissertation, but it's the only part I needed to understand. Thank you.

Do you know of a good transferring tutorial on here, with pix, that I can recommend to noobs instead of Stro's good tutorail that also has "monoculture / sectoring" bullshit in it?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 2
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i certainly wasnt angry, just firm in my response and im sorry if i came off that way. i just know many people who reach out, particularly on instagram who have only had failed results from information theyve used on the shroomery. most of the time its still something theyve done wrong and not the information from the shroomery. but still theres cases where theyve done everything right and still failed. there is more than one way to go about doing something. and what works for many may not work for all.

there is a consensus on here that 99% of the time, contamination comes from grain. i believe that percentage is lesser and sometimes it does in fact come from spawning to bulk phase. it could be technique, spawn prep, or both. I know great cultivators who still recommend to never touch your substrate with your hands. yet if contamination comes from spawn 99% of the time, then why would it matter? fact is, it does matter, because it doesnt come from spawn in everyones case 99% of the time.

you want resources and quotes though? i dont need to pull names in here. this is my argument, not theirs. I conduct my own experiments and yield my own results. if someone tells me something does or doesnt work, i take it with a grain of salt until ive tried it myself and see it with my own eyes.

i cant tell you how many hundreds, yes, hundreds of pounds of grain and substrate ive gone through to bring me to my results and confidence in my answers. if youve never seen my setup, i only spawn to bulk if im doing 25 tubs at a time or more. so when i have a loss, its massive. if pasteurization works for you, great! but it wont always work for everyone. and its pretty hard to mess that part up for them to be possibly doing it wrong.

if anyone is having serious contamination issues, trich in particular. i highly suggest them to go through the steps

check your agar and culture first. are you sure its clean?

check your grain.  when your grain is colonized, mix it up, wait a day or 2 (this will give trich spores time to reestablish/ Then take grain back to agar to check cleanliness.

still getting trich?

try sterilizing your substrate. if that doesnt work, add mgp+. (make sure you use spring water and a fresh batch every time! THIS IS CRUCIAL. look up a video from dr. myc on how to use it.

(also, I BELIEVE even when grain is 100% colonized and you spawn it to bulk, and the sub was brought to field capacity, you could be washing mycelium from the grain and leaving bare spots again. this would in turn be leave a vector for contamination. this is where mgp+ steps in.) This part im still considering only a theory at this point.

I encourage anyone who has gone through all the shroomery suggestions and posts and mindless hours reading thread after thread and still getting trich to try it. i promise them, it will work. TC or not, i know it does. im the voice when everyone else has failed them. If im wrong on something, i say it. I show my failures and i have learned the fastest because of my failures. i have no shame. I think a lot of people dont own to their failures and hide it at others expenses. i never will.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: don.rumata] * 1
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don.rumata said:
One of my plates of GT on LME, 10 days of growth. Judging by other pictures I think this is ready to clone to another plate of agar. My question to ask is, is all this growth good or is part of it mold? Also check that worm thing in the middle :eek:

My apologies for the photo quality, I am new and getting used to photographing agar.





all looks clean :smile: nice work. the inside spot, outter edge at 630ish is the only spot i dont like. i would transfer from 4 oclock. that looks best IMO. hang onto the germination plate though for a while and watch that worm thing. idk what that is lol

also its called transferring when working from spore. not cloning. cloning is a sample taken from a fruitbody and cleaning it up on agar, regardless of how many transfers.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 4
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Stipe-n Cap said:
"Buncha of smart shit"
:malebrain:





I feel like I just hit the gym lol, thanks for the input Stipe :hatsoff:

BullRun just about to leap :dancer:



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All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I’m fine.

Whatever you decide won’t really impact our survival
Close your eyes, and do the best that you can


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