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Re: Having a second flush, is there a "fertilizer" I can add to promote bigger or more mushrooms? [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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When doing A2G in a SAB do you reheat your blade in between every jar or every plate if you're doing 2-3 jars per?

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Re: Having a second flush, is there a "fertilizer" I can add to promote bigger or more mushrooms? [Re: iceNock]
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iceNock said:
When doing A2G in a SAB do you reheat your blade in between every jar or every plate if you're doing 2-3 jars per?



Between cultures, myself.


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Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Is oak sawdust/shavings any good for woodlovers?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dragonaut] * 2
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Most of the oak around here works great for woodlovers when used as chips and I feed it to my beds pretty regularly. The local cheap HWFP here has a lot of oak in it and it works just fine too for what purposes sawdust is useful for.

There are a lot of different oaks. Oaks are generally great host trees for chanterelles, bolets, amanitas, maitake, as well as oysters, turkey tail, and chicken of the woods. Some of the most prolific fruitings of chicken of the woods I've found have been on oak. Sometimes hundreds and hundreds of lbs all at once.

Short answer, yes it's very likely good to use.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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You're slacking you had the same avatar for 2 days now...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rusty2096]
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Rusty2096 said:
You're slacking you had the same avatar for 2 days now...



Lmao


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rusty2096]
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Rusty2096 said:
You're slacking you had the same avatar for 2 days now...



:whathesaid: and it's been making me dizzy 😵

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
Most of the oak around here works great for woodlovers when used as chips and I feed it to my beds pretty regularly. The local cheap HWFP here has a lot of oak in it and it works just fine too for what purposes sawdust is useful for.

There are a lot of different oaks. Oaks are generally great host trees for chanterelles, bolets, amanitas, maitake, as well as oysters, turkey tail, and chicken of the woods. Some of the most prolific fruitings of chicken of the woods I've found have been on oak. Sometimes hundreds and hundreds of lbs all at once.

Short answer, yes it's very likely good to use.



I've been looking into chicken of the woods as a project but haven't found anything great as a starting point.  These hundreds of pounds, were they naturally occurring or a grow you did?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rusty2096] * 1
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Rusty2096 said:
You're slacking you had the same avatar for 2 days now...




Funny I was literally changing it as you posted that.

The last pattern was Penrose's Kites and Darts pattern. Two shapes, fancy math, non repeating. That pattern keeps me from having seizures. The wrong circles fuck me up.


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Edited by Nichrome (09/19/22 09:10 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Awesome! I have access to approximately a metric fuck ton of it at my in-laws already chipped up. Now to get some woodlover spores.:lol:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CJD]
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CJD said:
Nichrome said:
Most of the oak around here works great for woodlovers when used as chips and I feed it to my beds pretty regularly. The local cheap HWFP here has a lot of oak in it and it works just fine too for what purposes sawdust is useful for.

There are a lot of different oaks. Oaks are generally great host trees for chanterelles, bolets, amanitas, maitake, as well as oysters, turkey tail, and chicken of the woods. Some of the most prolific fruitings of chicken of the woods I've found have been on oak. Sometimes hundreds and hundreds of lbs all at once.

Short answer, yes it's very likely good to use.



I've been looking into chicken of the woods as a project but haven't found anything great as a starting point.  These hundreds of pounds, were they naturally occurring or a grow you did?




Naturally occurring. They are not too hard to grow outside intentionally. I just made a clone of a wild one a few days ago.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
CJD said:
Nichrome said:
Most of the oak around here works great for woodlovers when used as chips and I feed it to my beds pretty regularly. The local cheap HWFP here has a lot of oak in it and it works just fine too for what purposes sawdust is useful for.

There are a lot of different oaks. Oaks are generally great host trees for chanterelles, bolets, amanitas, maitake, as well as oysters, turkey tail, and chicken of the woods. Some of the most prolific fruitings of chicken of the woods I've found have been on oak. Sometimes hundreds and hundreds of lbs all at once.

Short answer, yes it's very likely good to use.



I've been looking into chicken of the woods as a project but haven't found anything great as a starting point.  These hundreds of pounds, were they naturally occurring or a grow you did?




Naturally occurring. They are not too hard to grow outside intentionally. I just made a clone of a wild one a few days ago.



Are you planning on using logs or chips? Mostly what I've seen is inoculating logs with either saw dust spawn or the buying the plugs. I have an oak that fell in my woods that I thought about attempting with plugs. If you know of a good resource to help me down the rabbit hole I will be eternally grateful.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CJD]
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I've made several dozen clones and messed around with the mycelium which seems to eat just about everything. I'll probably run this clone on HWFP using bags to form blocks, much like oyster or maitake. It's not too slow, and the fruits can grow really fast once they get going. Water seems to be the biggest factor. Dry logs in nature that don't touch the ground only fruit sparsely and the fruits are small and tough. Live trees and partially buried or submerged logs can have massive flushes again and again.

If you go with logs, make them a couple feet longer and bury them a couple feet down into the ground in a wet area or water that ground regularly.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
I've made several dozen clones and messed around with the mycelium which seems to eat just about everything. I'll probably run this clone on HWFP using bags to form blocks, much like oyster or maitake. It's not too slow, and the fruits can grow really fast once they get going. Water seems to be the biggest factor. Dry logs in nature that don't touch the ground only fruit sparsely and the fruits are small and tough. Live trees and partially buried or submerged logs can have massive flushes again and again.

If you go with logs, make them a couple feet longer and bury them a couple feet down into the ground in a wet area or water that ground regularly.



Awesome! Thanks for the info.  I'd love to follow along if you decide to do a grow log. I think a "chicken of the woods only" thread would be an awesome addition here. I've eaten it but this will be my first attempt at cultivating it. I need to go out on a hunt to find some to clone. Thanks again!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CJD]
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Why do cubensis growers use so much more spawn per wet lb yielded than gourmet growers? A 4qt bag of oyster spawn will noc up 20 5lb bags substrate easily (yielding at least 20lbs wet, or 2 dry). But 4qts is commonly dumped into a single tote, yielding ~0.5lbs dry at most. Is there a reason running supplemented and steam sterilized sub for cubes hasn't taken off? Given the rising popularity of bags you'd think it'd be common.

Edited by AphexPin (09/19/22 10:16 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AphexPin]
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An oyster culture consumes the substrate (wood/straw) as food/nutrition, whereas with cubes they are not really eating the coir and they are primarily eating just the grain. The coir is just a hydration/porous aerated material.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
An oyster culture consumes the substrate (wood/straw) as food/nutrition, whereas with cubes they are not really eating the coir and they are primarily eating just the grain. The coir is just a hydration/porous aerated material.



Well thatd be idea behind supplementing the substrate though, adding nutritious stuff that you steam sterilize so you can use less spawn. I know a grower on mycotopia swears by it and adds stuff like manure, beet pellets, etc (dont quote me on that though) along with coir. You're adding less nutrition from the spawn, but more in the sub, in order to stretch your spawn further. So for example rather than using a quart of spawn in a coir bag, you'd use a cup in a supplemented bag and (for the sake of this hypothetical anyway) get equivelant yield per bag, but of course 4x more bags per quart of spawn (there's 4 cups per quart for any non-americans).

If cubes were industrialized for example, would they be grown the same way, or would the process move toward how gourmets are efficiently grown, by stretching spawn into supp'd bags?

Edited by AphexPin (09/19/22 11:03 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Almost ready to start my first grow, getting a couple spore syringe and jumping into AGAR.

How many PP dishes should a noob start off to start isolation? Plan on doing 3 different types, and not like the practice won't hurt, maybe 3-4 plates each?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nextcontestant] * 2
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Nextcontestant said:
Almost ready to start my first grow, getting a couple spore syringe and jumping into AGAR.

How many PP dishes should a noob start off to start isolation? Plan on doing 3 different types, and not like the practice won't hurt, maybe 3-4 plates each?



I was swimming in agar dishes when I first started. My advice would be just go crazy and get as much practice in as you can getting your technique down.

There’s no right or wrong answer here, just do as many as you have time for or can handle in your workspace.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I'm reading from Zyran that to do PF-Tec I have to create an SAB or a glove box.
That looks tough to work in + the $$.

If I do it in the bathtub after 70% ISO all over everything, with the shower curtain closed and the A/C off will that significantly increase risk over the glove box?

Edited by Shreddr1 (09/20/22 08:31 AM)

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