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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Nichrome]
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oops.

Edited by nektar61 (11/22/21 06:37 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
Techgrower77 said:
Mike Hawck said:
Techgrower77 said:
So I'm pretty new to all of this.

I transferred some TED spores to agar and not sure if I should be concerned about the yellow?

Thanks!





Good candidate to put to some pasty-plates filled with PF mix.



So, I'm sorry but I don't have any idea what you are talking about lol



My sigline has a link to the Advanced Search and a link to some (important) suggestions for using it.

I can't tell if the Pasty Plates comment is joking or not. But Pasty-plates are using containers from the grocery store instead of petri dishes.

Personally, I would throw out these plates, the yellow is serious contam. There is no way in hell those put on grain will make good spawn. The yellow will out-compete the shroom mycelium.

There are people here with more experience than me who would absolutely try (and succeed) to transfer a sliver of the good mycelium out of there to a new plate. But if you're very new, it might be too much.

I can't tell if it's mold or bacteria, but with bacteria I'll try to transfer out the good mycelium to a new plate, but with mold, I usually don't, it can fill your house with mold spores. I just leave them sealed and throw them out.

If the contam comes up a couple days after inoculation, it's often bacteria. If a week or so, it's often mold. This looks kinda like bacteria, but I don't know.

Your mileage may vary.

I recommend pouring plates, taping them up, and waiting a week or ten days before using to see if they're contammed on their own.

Here's an excellent post by a guy who really knows his stuff, all about making transfers (and making agar before that, but it seems you've made some).
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26628234

EDIT: I think Mike was joking, since someone who knows their shit replied with a "WTF?" image to his comment here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27552455#27552455



Sorry if I caused any confusion, what I should have said was that using BRF pucks like Josex does here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24806569/page/1/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/10 has helped me with bacterial cultures and could help Techgrower. So basically what Wall.E said a page back.

Also nektar, I did put the x7x spores to agar, but mold grew so I haven't transferred it. I plan on trying the spores again soon. I can't answer your question about LC because I've only done grain water LC as of now.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mike Hawck] * 2
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Giving yeti another go to replenish swabs for giveaways


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
Techgrower77 said:
Mike Hawck said:
Techgrower77 said:
So I'm pretty new to all of this.

I transferred some TED spores to agar and not sure if I should be concerned about the yellow?

Thanks!





Good candidate to put to some pasty-plates filled with PF mix.



So, I'm sorry but I don't have any idea what you are talking about lol



My sigline has a link to the Advanced Search and a link to some (important) suggestions for using it.

I can't tell if the Pasty Plates comment is joking or not. But Pasty-plates are using containers from the grocery store instead of petri dishes.

Personally, I would throw out these plates, the yellow is serious contam. There is no way in hell those put on grain will make good spawn. The yellow will out-compete the shroom mycelium.

There are people here with more experience than me who would absolutely try (and succeed) to transfer a sliver of the good mycelium out of there to a new plate. But if you're very new, it might be too much.

I can't tell if it's mold or bacteria, but with bacteria I'll try to transfer out the good mycelium to a new plate, but with mold, I usually don't, it can fill your house with mold spores. I just leave them sealed and throw them out.

If the contam comes up a couple days after inoculation, it's often bacteria. If a week or so, it's often mold. This looks kinda like bacteria, but I don't know.

Your mileage may vary.

I recommend pouring plates, taping them up, and waiting a week or ten days before using to see if they're contammed on their own.

Here's an excellent post by a guy who really knows his stuff, all about making transfers (and making agar before that, but it seems you've made some).
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26628234

EDIT: I think Mike was joking, since someone who knows their shit replied with a "WTF?" image to his comment here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27552455#27552455



Thank you for the info, and I wasn't joking, first time I've seen a reference to pasty plates.

I do have more of the spore syringe, but I am wondering if the syringe it's self is contaminated, those plates had been sealed and sitting for several weeks and were clean (I tossed a few that were contaminated) at the exact same time I had another syringe in the stab and inoculated 5 of 2 different strains (maybe not the best idea) but the other 5 are clean, but all 5 of the same syringe have the yellow contamination.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Techgrower77]
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Techgrower77 said:
I do have more of the spore syringe, but I am wondering if the syringe it's self is contaminated, those plates had been sealed and sitting for several weeks and were clean (I tossed a few that were contaminated) at the exact same time I had another syringe in the stab and inoculated 5 of 2 different strains (maybe not the best idea) but the other 5 are clean, but all 5 of the same syringe have the yellow contamination.



I didn't think you were joking, I thought Mike was joking.

There's no such thing as a sterile syringe, regardless of marketing.

I'd put it to grain first, using a good, simple grain tek....PCing - pressure cooking - grain in jars for 2 hours, plus time for altitude, keep jar loose during PCing.

Wait until the grain jar is cool and inject a small amount, like 1 CC of spore syringe solution into it, inside an SAB, then grow some shrooms and clone them. Clone the fattest, fastest growing shroom.

I recommend shaking up syringes well, the spores are so tiny you can't see them. Some sellers add charcole so you think there are a lot of spores. Shake the fuck out of them before use, or shake by touching for 60 seconds against a vibrator, or blender, before use.

Or do the ancient tek of PF tek. Then clone the fattest, fastest growing shroom.

Or get enough posts on here to get some free spores on here, and put those to agar. Or buy some spores and put them to agar.

Let us know if you have any questions after looking up this stuff and reading about it.

Spore syringes put to agar often are contaminated.

Basically grow some shrooms, make some prints, clone them, etc. First thing is grow some shrooms, even if not many and they're not perfect. Then you have more genetic material to work with.

Good to have you here.

Edited by nektar61 (11/22/21 06:29 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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I didn't think you were joking, I thought Mike was joking.

There's no such thing as a sterile syringe, regardless of marketing.

I'd put it to grain first, using a good, simple grain tek....PCing - pressure cooking - grain in jars for 2 hours, plus time for altitude, keep jar loose during PCing.

Wait until the grain jar is cool and inject a small amount, like 1 CC of spore syringe solution into it, inside an SAB, then grow some shrooms and clone them. Clone the fattest, fastest growing shroom.

I recommend shaking up syringes well, the spores are so tiny you can't see them. Some sellers add charcole so you think there are a lot of spores. Shake the fuck out of them before use, or shake by touching for 60 seconds against a vibrator, or blender, before use.

Or do the ancient tek of PF tek. Then clone the fattest, fastest growing shroom.

Or get enough posts on here to get some free spores on here, and put those to agar. Or buy some spores and put them to agar.

Let us know if you have any questions after looking up this stuff and reading about it.

Spore syringes put to agar often are contaminated.

Basically grow some shrooms, make some prints, clone them, etc. First thing is grow some shrooms, even if not many and they're not perfect. Then you have more genetic material to work with.

Good to have you here.




Thank you for the help!

I did also inoculate some all in one bags (more reading since says maybe that's not the best tek) but hopefully like you said I can at least get some fruit and go from there!

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Techgrower77]
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Quote:
Techgrower77 said:.

I do have more of the spore syringe, but I am wondering if the syringe it's self is contaminated, those plates had been sealed and sitting for several weeks and were clean (I tossed a few that were contaminated) at the exact same time I had another syringe in the stab and inoculated 5 of 2 different strains (maybe not the best idea) but the other 5 are clean, but all 5 of the same syringe have the yellow contamination.



all spore syringes are dirty. therefore agar.

also. if it’s contaminated my first assumption is me. we are the biggest vectors. which ain’t to say it’s definitely me.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: D3_Myc]
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D3_Myc said:
Giving yeti another go to replenish swabs for giveaways





Nice! I've got F3 Yetis and F2 Ghosts getting ready for grain now with the same intentions.

Do you know where Yeti and Ghost came from? All I can find is that they're in the TAT family but nothing about what they were crossed with, I'm assuming APE?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
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Both were just isolates from tat I believe not crossed with anything.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: D3_Myc]
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D3_Myc said:
Giving yeti another go to replenish swabs for giveaways





Plz DM me when you have the giveaway :grin:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: aNewBeginning]
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I'd say it's coincidence and it just depends on what genetics you are working with. Nothing in my experience has led me to believe one will out perform the other. Just get a culture clean and go to grain.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: verum subsequentis]
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Dumped the LC I made day before yesterday, was too murky out the PC to tell later if it was contammed.

Used differnt Malt extract, got clearer LC tonight, and re-did it.
RustyWhyte T4, PE T1, and Alacabenzi T2.

Also cloned 5 other plates, each to 3 blank plates, total of 15 plates.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
Techgrower77 said:
I do have more of the spore syringe, but I am wondering if the syringe it's self is contaminated, those plates had been sealed and sitting for several weeks and were clean (I tossed a few that were contaminated) at the exact same time I had another syringe in the stab and inoculated 5 of 2 different strains (maybe not the best idea) but the other 5 are clean, but all 5 of the same syringe have the yellow contamination.



I didn't think you were joking, I thought Mike was joking.

There's no such thing as a sterile syringe, regardless of marketing.

I'd put it to grain first, using a good, simple grain tek....PCing - pressure cooking - grain in jars for 2 hours, plus time for altitude, keep jar loose during PCing.

Wait until the grain jar is cool and inject a small amount, like 1 CC of spore syringe solution into it, inside an SAB, then grow some shrooms and clone them. Clone the fattest, fastest growing shroom.

I recommend shaking up syringes well, the spores are so tiny you can't see them. Some sellers add charcole so you think there are a lot of spores. Shake the fuck out of them before use, or shake by touching for 60 seconds against a vibrator, or blender, before use.

Or do the ancient tek of PF tek. Then clone the fattest, fastest growing shroom.

Or get enough posts on here to get some free spores on here, and put those to agar. Or buy some spores and put them to agar.

Let us know if you have any questions after looking up this stuff and reading about it.

Spore syringes put to agar often are contaminated.

Basically grow some shrooms, make some prints, clone them, etc. First thing is grow some shrooms, even if not many and they're not perfect. Then you have more genetic material to work with.

Good to have you here.



Telling somebody to put a spore syringe to grain is a big no no. It’s like rule #1 of the shroomery. :lol: Keep spore syringes away from grains period!

Clean up on agar or go PF tek.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Guerrilla]
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Could I please get some feedback on these plates.

I can upload any individual plates for a better view

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Yeatster]
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They look like cubes without any contaminants. The PE T2s and the GT T2 look like they're starting to go rhizo. What kind of feedback are you looking for?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: JustAPerson]
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Well, that's about as good as I'd hoped for. I'd like to take some wedges to grain in a couple days. Then continue transferring the rest.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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Tormato said:
D3_Myc said:
Giving yeti another go to replenish swabs for giveaways





Plz DM me when you have the giveaway :grin:



:whathesaid:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
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Guerrilla said:
Telling somebody to put a spore syringe to grain is a big no no. It’s like rule #1 of the shroomery. :lol: Keep spore syringes away from grains period!




Absolutely, 100% not true.

Here is TC / Mod Bod two years ago showing how to make spore syringes:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26011681

Here's TC / Mod fahtster with a tek from a year ago on using spore syringes and he uses them on grain.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26993868

There are more, but you can find them yourself if you want.

It helps to not be so absolute on here, to not say "Don't do this, ever." Especially without checking it out first on the Advanced Search.

Sometimes it's useful for people to get started with SOMETHING when they have a bad time with agar off the bat.

Guerrilla said:
Clean up on agar or go PF tek.



I did suggest he try PF Tek.

Carry on.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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Yea, and they are both people making their own prints and syringes and knowing what they’re doing. Not vendor syringes.

Yes it CAN work if you are running enough jars but majority of the time it won’t, so I personally don’t agree with setting a beginner up for failure. Not trying to be a dick they just might get disheartened with their almost guaranteed failure.

I know you suggested PF tek. I was just confirming that this was the more suitable option.
:seriousthumbsup:

Also if you’re suggesting cloning, I would just suggest agar from the get go.

OP if you struggle with agar do no pours and watch Stipe & Cap on YouTube. Problem solved.


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Edited by Guerrilla (11/23/21 10:21 AM)

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