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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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Ok 🤔


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
I have marine  friends  that are embarrassed to admit they voted for him .  It’s beyond my comprehension how anyone in the military could support such a selfish , dishonest  coward like Trump .


The firing of that carrier captain because it leaked there was an outbreak on the ship did not sit well with sailors, and the attempt to soothe them went over even worse? Remember the leaked audio of the Secretary of the Navy addressing the crew?



My favorite part is when he calls the captain stupid for not considering the internal email he sent could be leaked to the press, in an address that was leaked to the press. More than anything, the trump administration are just bumbling idiots.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (09/03/20 10:23 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/03/politics/white-house-fda-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

The piece is currently titled  "Trump puts pressure on FDA for coronavirus silver bullet ahead of Election Day" but has no examples of Trump pressuring FDA to do anything, apart from a general encouragement to progress swiftly, which a good leader would be remiss not to voice. And then this beauty:

"Some health experts fear that leaves open the possibility the White House will pressure Hahn and Health and Human Services secretary Alex Azar to approve use of a vaccine before Election Day."

So we have another CNN hit piece devoid of evidence in support of the headline and which, just like so much of the Fake News, is based on unnamed sources, mind reading and speculation about what Trump might do, rather than what he is doing or has done.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Ok 🤔


She wants you. She wants you to fire your gun in her.....

In her whatever that is called. Her blowhole or whatever her species calls it. She wants to train you to use firearms and really really shoot it toward her. She is really into Biden :smirk:


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:kingcrankey: I did not say to edit my signature soulidarity! Now forever I will never remember what I said about understanding the secrets of the universe by paying attention to subtleties!

:facepalm: I'm never giving you the password again. Jerk

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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There’s a scientific process. The vaccines aren’t even being developed by government agencies, so what exactly does encouragement to progress swiftly mean? He’s pressuring regulators to bend the rules for political gain.

You know people aren’t going to trust a vaccine that is approved a week before the election. Even if it did somehow happen that a vaccine approval legitimately happens then, people are not going to believe it. Would you? If trump truly had the country’s well being at heart, and that situation arose, he should wait until after the election so the vaccine isn’t politicized. We know that won’t happen.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel] * 1
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imachavel said:
koods said:
Ok 🤔


She wants you. She wants you to fire your gun in her.....

In her whatever that is called. Her blowhole or whatever her species calls it. She wants to train you to use firearms and really really shoot it toward her. She is really into Biden :smirk:


you’re weird


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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What is he doing currently besides fucking up the post office And continuing to prove people with zero govt experience shouldn’t  have the most important job in it ?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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If we approve a vaccine that ends up not working, it’s going to be an absolutely devastating blow to public health, but trump announcing approval of a vaccine that is actually effective right before the election is going to cause a lot of unnecessary skepticism.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (09/03/20 10:45 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
There’s a scientific process. The vaccines aren’t even being developed by government agencies, so what exactly does encouragement to progress swiftly mean? He’s pressuring regulators to bend the rules for political gain.


If Trump did not talk about the need to get the vaccine quickly CNN would bag him for not caring about American lives. It is the role of a leader to let the team know the long game plan but not interfere in their work and the piece has no examples of Trump "pressuring" FDA to do anything.

koods said:
You know people aren’t going to trust a vaccine that is approved a week before the election.


No I don't

koods said:
If trump truly had the country’s well being at heart, and that situation arose, he should wait until after the election so the vaccine isn’t politicized.


Anyone with country's well being at heart would like to see an effective vaccine approved asap, regardless of the political calendar.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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fuck trump and the circus that put him in office. you can't yell "FAKE" when he literally lies right in front of hundreds of people filming him......well you can but that just proves you're an idiot.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
If we approve a vaccine that ends up not working, it’s going to be an absolutely devastating blow to public health, but trump announcing approval of a vaccine that is actually effective right before the election is going to cause a lot of unnecessary skepticism.


There has been scepticism about vaccines in general for decades so can't see how this one would be different, regardless of the timing.

But let me ask you a question. Do you, koods, agree that delaying approval of a vaccine that ticks all the FDA boxes because of the impending elections would be an act of political interference?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: normalperson]
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normalperson said:
fuck trump and the circus that put him in office. you can't yell "FAKE" when he literally lies right in front of hundreds of people filming him......well you can but that just proves you're an idiot.


If you were a normal person you would at least tangentially address the main point of my post which was lack of evidence in support of the CNN headline claim

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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It can be approved without making an announcement. That wouldn’t change anything. He could let medical professionals make the announcement, instead of trying to take credit for something he had absolutely nothing to do with.

Anyways it will be easy to tell. My father had a device approved by the FDA. His company wasn’t shy about detailing their efforts. If a company has data to support their vaccine getting approval, it will be public. If you don’t see the data but get an announcement, you’ll know it’s political theatre.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
koods said:
If we approve a vaccine that ends up not working, it’s going to be an absolutely devastating blow to public health, but trump announcing approval of a vaccine that is actually effective right before the election is going to cause a lot of unnecessary skepticism.


There has been scepticism about vaccines in general for decades so can't see how this one would be different, regardless of the timing.

But let me ask you a question. Do you, koods, agree that delaying approval of a vaccine that ticks all the FDA boxes because of the impending elections would be an act of political interference?


If they put it off a week or two just so the vaccine isn’t politicized, then yes. They can still prepare for rollout without the theatrics


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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Sorry, I am a bit slow today - so do you, koods, agree that delaying the approval of an otherwise viable vaccine because of the election would be an act of political interference?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Any vaccine approval in the next few months will be a judgment call. All the data normally required for such an approval will not be available. Public heath officials should absolutely take into account the implications of having a vaccine appear to be approved for political reasons as opposed to sound scientific ones. A two week delay would allow more data to accumulate, and relieve that possibly devastating political taint. Public trust is the most important factor after efficacy. And October or November, it’s still a rush job.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Any vaccine approval in the next few months will be a judgment call. All the data normally required for such an approval will not be available. Public heath officials should absolutely take into account the implications of having a vaccine appear to be approved for political reasons as opposed to sound scientific ones. A two week delay would allow more data to accumulate, and relieve that possibly devastating political taint. Public trust is the most important factor after efficacy. And October or November, it’s still a rush job.


So what is the answer to my question?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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This is the downside of trump spending the past four years ignoring rules and sowing distrust. It’s a fucking shame. We now know that Convalescent Plamsa was rushed through because he was making demands it be done when the science wasn’t there.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
Sorry, I am a bit slow today - so do you, koods, agree that delaying the approval of an otherwise viable vaccine because of the election would be an act of political interference?


No. The should approve it based on science, including the public health implications of the vaccine being perceived as rushed due to the political calendar.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Trump is absolutely melting over this story where he told aides that soldiers who died or disabled in battle were losers and suckers. Problem is we all remember what he said about McCain.



There’s a tweet for that 🤦‍♂️




He was supposed to visit a cemetery in France where a lot of our Normandy Invasion guys are buried. He not only called them losers, the real reason he didn't want to go the cemetery was that it was raining, and it would mess up his hair.


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