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How will the Trump presidency end
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What will save us?
How will it end?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 03/26/17 09:58 AM until the end of time
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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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I voted resign. He doesn't have it in him. He never wanted to be president. He's in way over his head. He's lazy and just did it for the attention and now that it's clear how hard the job is, he will find an excuse to get out of doing the job.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods] * 3
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Koods, you're gonna shorten your lifespan obsessing over the guy this much. I mean, your avatar/title/sig and a large portion of your posts are all dedicated to the butthurt. Take it easy. Not even trying to argue because I'm done with all the Trump/Hillary/whoever threads, just making a suggestion.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Eminence]
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I'm making up for being wrong about him. I totally underestimated how terrible he would be.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods] * 2
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The only answer that reflects reality, that Trump will finish this term and be re elected, isn't even listed:facepalm:


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10]
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Maybe. And then Ben Shapiro said he might run in 2024


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10]
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This poll is all about positivity, not the nightmare scenario


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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said:
Maybe. And then Ben Shapiro said he might run in 2024


He'd lose :shrug:

I'm hoping for some new age republicans to emerge during Trump's 8 years. Hopefully either Ivanka or Donald Jr. will run and we'll have a Trump dynasty


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10]
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Ivanka is too busy skiing


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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10]
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How American.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: ballsalsa]
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I talked to the lady who lives across the street from Ivanka, she gave me these signs that they have in their front yard.



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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
How American.


Just as American as all the people that voted for Bush Jr., Jeb and Hillary.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10] * 1
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I didn't vote for any of them.  My opposition to royalty/nobility was a factor.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods] * 1
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Trump will get a second term and another Republican will be elected president.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I voted resign. He doesn't have it in him. He never wanted to be president. He's in way over his head. He's lazy and just did it for the attention and now that it's clear how hard the job is, he will find an excuse to get out of doing the job.


I also think he will resign, but it's because the establishment is going to destroy him and he makes it too easy for them to accomplish that goal.

Both parties are in on this and Trump is getting closer to becoming completely isolated. I know you think this is a step in the right direction for the nation, but it's not going to go as smooth as you think, there's going to be potential instability from his departure.

If Trump voters and supporters FEEL that they themselves are getting the shaft, that's not going to be good, this isn't Bernie supporters going home to cry in their milk.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: qman]
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That brings up a good point:

Webster, if trump resigns, who owes whom a BJ?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods] * 1
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Trump's presidency will end when he snorts too much cocaine with a little PCP mixed in, charges out of the house naked screaming at the top of his lungs "don't listen to CNN! Its all fake news! Listen to Putin! He has all the answers! I grabbed him by the dick last night!"

He will then go on trial for drug possession and indecent exposure, but his lawyer will get out out of it. Unfortunately for Donald he will repeat this incident again a week later, convincing the Republicans that his presidency is making them look bad, creating bi-partisan support for his impeachment.

Edited by triphead9428 (03/26/17 07:44 PM)

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: triphead9428]
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A sitting president can't be charged while in office


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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A president can be charged and indicted for a crime. It is questionable whether he can be prosecuted, but there is precedent for allowing a president to stand trial for non criminal matters.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods] * 1
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Charged and indicted?  Is that like beans and frijoles?


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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I meant charged or indicted.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
A sitting president can't be charged while in office


      Is that absolute legal fact or just a custom through throughout our history? I googled your statement and didn't get a sure answer. I can't remember, but I guess from what you said Nixon was charged after he resigned.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Brian Jones]
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Nixon was never charged.  He almost was, but he resigned just before that happened.

Is it an absolute legal fact?  No President has been charged while in office.  It is well-understood that the purpose of impeachment is to temporarily remove a President from office to prosecute him.  This has happened twice, but in each time, the President was not convicted.  Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached and prosecuted, though.

If it is possible to charge a sitting President, it hasn't happened yet.  Most likely, the President would enjoy Executive Privilege, however.



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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Brian Jones]
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So Ford's pardon was to cover future events.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Brian Jones]
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He was pardoned for any crimes he "has committed or may have committed or taken part in".

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=4696


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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What if a president murdered his wife? How would that be handled?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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What if a president murdered his wife? How would that be handled? I'm don't see how executive privilege would apply to that.

Again, the Supreme Court ruled that Clinton could be used while in office, so why not prosecuted by a state court? The problem i guess is actually arresting the president and arraigning him on charges.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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It is a bit more complex than simply applying the ruling in Clinton v Jones.  That case basically says that a President can be sued in a civil action for things that arise out of conduct that occurred prior to taking office, and only if the suit would not interfere with his duties as President.

Now, you're asking about a criminal prosecution. That's a whole different ball of wax:

1.  Conduct occurring in office vs. out of office.  The huge difference here is that conduct prior to taking office is not protected by any privilege or immunity.  Unprotected conduct can absolutely be prosecuted, whereas conduct during president's term most likely cannot.  WHEN that prosecution can take place is another question.

2. Prosecution occurring in office vs out of office.  It is pretty much assumed that no President can be criminally prosecuted while in office because a criminal prosecution necessarily makes it impossible for the President to carry out his duties.  The impeachment process is where a President is removed from office to face prosecution.  Now, AFTER leaving office, a President can be prosecuted for all crimes committed outside of office AND for any crimes committed while in office that are not subject to executive immunity.


So, lets look at murder of his wife.  That depends.  If he murders his wife by ordering a drone strike on foreign soil where his wife happens to be, he's probably immune.  If he stabs his wife in the oval office, he's probably not immune.  In either of those situations, however, he has to be impeached to be prosecuted...or be prosecuted after his term ends.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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I think that the only way he'd murder his wife would be
if he found out that a younger Trump was fucking her.

Wait, you heard that too?

Eric or Don jr. is bangin' Melanie? realtalk
Would that be incest or just purifying the Trump genes?

:chump: . . . :peace:


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: vinsue] * 1
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Lets just hope trump dies and his daughter goes into porn

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
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I like how my ridiculous joke about a coked up Donald Trump running around naked and screaming is causing such an in-depth argument lol.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
A sitting president can't be charged while in office


I was under the impression that this was the definition of "impeachment"? Removal from office due to criminal charges?

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Kryptos] * 2
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Close.  Impeachment is a removal from office to bring charges.  Those charges may not result in a permanent removal, though.  Bill Clinton was impeached but not permanently removed. 


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: vinsue]
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vinsue said:
I think that the only way he'd murder his wife would be
if he found out that a younger Trump was fucking her.

Wait, you heard that too?

Eric or Don jr. is bangin' Melanie? realtalk
Would that be incest or just purifying the Trump genes?

:chump: . . . :peace:


Considering Eric and Don Jr aren't blood related to Malania, it wouldn't be either.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10] * 1
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can people explain to me why people think he would resign? seems the least likely imo. I expect he will finish his term and depending on his opposition he could win again.. but I hope for impeachment.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote]
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I guess they expect him to resign if impeachment is imminent similar to how nixon resigned because of watergate.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
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i see, ty. so the idea is that he would jump before being pushed? Yeh that makes some sense.

I think i didn't see it as an option because I thought he would see it as admitting loss but he would probably just claim he left on his own terms rather than be an impeached loser.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote]
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He'll resign because he hates the job.  He hates the negative press.  He hates having to work more than he's ever worked in his life.  He hates not having the power to make decisions unilaterally.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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v good points..,  I was just coming from the position where I thought his ego wouldn't let him throw in the towel as a "loser" but i see he could find a way of reframing it anyway as he does with most of reality.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote] * 2
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He'll justify it as either:

1.  He succeeded in doing what he set out to do and his job is done; or
2.  His time is too valuable to waste on helping people who won't work with him.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
can people explain to me why people think he would resign? seems the least likely imo. I expect he will finish his term and depending on his opposition he could win again.. but I hope for impeachment.


Because he leaves unfinished projects where ever he goes. He has no follow through. He gave up after two weeks on healthcare. He's unbelievably lazy and actual hard work is not something he's familiar with.
The "bone spur" that kept him out of Vietnam is going to force him to resign


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (03/28/17 07:20 AM)

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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He'd rather resign and be able to claim the deep state swamp liberal socialist elite threw him out than be impeached and disgraced further.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The last ten or so posts in this thread have been a circle jerk of liberal delusions. Trump isn't going anywhere for 8 years.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10] * 2
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Lowest approval rating this fast in modern history, legislative agenda failure, party infighting, fbi investigation, and hes gonna get reelected?

Delusional.


But I apologize that almost everyone consistently disagrees with you.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It just dropped again.  It's kinda fun every week checking how far he's fallen. 

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/207416/trump-approval-rating-drops-new-low.aspx?g_source=Polling+Matters&g_medium=lead&g_campaign=tiles


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10]
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How are things a circle jerk? Why don't you contribute something for once?

I think its also plausible that he could finish the term and -again - depending on the opposition- could win another term if he really wants to (which I doubt). If Bernie ran, I think its fair to say he would destroy Trump.

AFter previous posts I think its actually very plausible he would resign over impeachment, whatever he can do to pretend not to be a fucking loser. Personally, I think he'll just finish his term, if he can stick it, and bounce. The enrichment he is making for himself and his fam is certainly an incentive to stay. I guess it depends on the balance between laziness and greed.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I dont think its fully delusional to think Trump could win again. If the opposition was shit and depending on how much he convinces his base that he met his promises, and depending on how fractured the republicans become..  its possible :shrug: I think its too early to say.


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Edited by Tipote (03/28/17 08:15 AM)

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote] * 2
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The Establishment may choose to keep Trump in office for their own purposes, he's a great scapegoat for a lot of the economic sins of the past.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
The Establishment may choose to keep Trump in office for their own purposes, he's a great scapegoat for a lot of the economic sins of the past.


I was thinking this, too. But thats a hot potato for the GOP to decide to hold on to. If they bury something, and it surfaces later, then theyre all complicit, and the Dems will use that in either 2018 or 2020, and it wont just be trump who loses his job.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
It just dropped again.  It's kinda fun every week checking how far he's fallen. 

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/207416/trump-approval-rating-drops-new-low.aspx?g_source=Polling+Matters&g_medium=lead&g_campaign=tiles


Obama never got as low as 36 during his entire presidency.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/03/26/nearly-one-out-of-every-three-days-he-has-been-president-trump-has-visited-a-trump-property/?utm_term=.ddd0ab38357d




My mother runs a number of USTA tournaments and the Trump Club in Virginia tried to solicit business. She said the club was the worst facility she'd ever seen.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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Quote:
trump never wanted to be president anyway


Really? Is that why he ran?

Are people still indulging in all that delicious fake news?

***his presidency will end with millions of liberals spontaneously combusting :lol:


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Trump liked the idea of being president. He wants to be a figurehead and bask in the glory. He's has no interest in being a responsible adult and actually doing any work. For example, lawmakers were reporting that he had no idea what was even in the healthcare bill he was trying to sell. That's how lazy he is.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Quote:
trump never wanted to be president anyway


Really? Is that why he ran?

Are people still indulging in all that delicious fake news?


For once I agree with you.  If he doesn't make it to four years, I'll guess it'd be because of health issues.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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He'll serve his 8 years.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Trump liked the idea of being president. He wants to be a figurehead and bask in the glory. He's has no interest in being a responsible adult and actually doing any work. For example, lawmakers were reporting that he had no idea what was even in the healthcare bill he was trying to sell. That's how lazy he is.


Kind of reminds us of Obama and his 2000 pages of Obama care. :lol:

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: qman] * 1
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He just won't get elected again imo.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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8 years of Trump.


Edited by Luddite (03/28/17 05:38 PM)

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Luddite]
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shot. probably shot.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: koods]
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It's good to see that 43% of your polls participants thus far are dealing in reality.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Great Scott]
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PeyoteZen said:
It's good to see that 43% of your polls participants thus far are dealing in reality.


platitudes are so commonplace.
















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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: akira_akuma]
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If you were an animal, you'd be a Platypussy.



























see what I did there?


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Great Scott]
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and yer a lily-livered varmint!


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Great Scott]
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I realise Trump has increasing incentive to stay President despite how much he sucks at it. Not only is he enriching his family business/himself but he benefits from immunity, right?


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
I realise Trump has increasing incentive to stay President despite how much he sucks at it. Not only is he enriching his family business/himself but he benefits from immunity, right?


You're gonna have to expain how he's enriching himself. He doesn't even take the President's salary.

Present solid facts. Enough of these "I believe it therefore it's true". And also, I'm not gonna let you off the hook by saying he goes to his hotels. He made it clear that any proceeds from his hotels directly linked to him goes to the federal government. So actually try


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Patlal] * 1
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He's a reality TV star.  You can't see how being President enriches him?  It's free publicity.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Patlal] * 1
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He's used the office of the President to promote his daughter's products.  he's doubled the membership fees at mar-a-lago since assuming the office.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Patlal]
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Quote:
He made it clear that any proceeds from his hotels directly linked to him goes to the federal government.


You're kidding right? Where did you hear such non-sense?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doubles-to-200000.html
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Mar-a-Lago, the Palm Beach resort owned by the Trump Organization, doubled its initiation fee to $200,000 following the election of Donald Trump as president.



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Patlal said:
Tipote said:
I realise Trump has increasing incentive to stay President despite how much he sucks at it. Not only is he enriching his family business/himself but he benefits from immunity, right?


You're gonna have to expain how he's enriching himself. He doesn't even take the President's salary.

Present solid facts. Enough of these "I believe it therefore it's true". And also, I'm not gonna let you off the hook by saying he goes to his hotels. He made it clear that any proceeds from his hotels directly linked to him goes to the federal government. So actually try



Well there's alot we have to go on on the basis of belief. I would be happy to see evidence that those revenues are going back to the federal government. Who cares if he has said this or that, surely that means we go on belief of his word..?

What about the sweet heart deal Kushner got from the Chinese Insurance company?
What about the free advertising, and access for his kids and their businesses?
What about the Dakota Access Pipeline?

You think all the ways he can benefit will be even be possible to pay back? Or that even all the strictly financial benefits will be fully accounted for?

There are a conflicts of interests on a level we don't even know fully yet, there are multiple ways he can give advantages to those around him. And for other players in the world they can gain access by enriching him indirectly - by enriching his family.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
Patlal said:
Tipote said:
I realise Trump has increasing incentive to stay President despite how much he sucks at it. Not only is he enriching his family business/himself but he benefits from immunity, right?


You're gonna have to expain how he's enriching himself. He doesn't even take the President's salary.

Present solid facts. Enough of these "I believe it therefore it's true". And also, I'm not gonna let you off the hook by saying he goes to his hotels. He made it clear that any proceeds from his hotels directly linked to him goes to the federal government. So actually try



Well there's alot we have to go on on the basis of belief. I would be happy to see evidence that those revenues are going back to the federal government. Who cares if he has said this or that, surely that means we go on belief of his word..?

What about the sweet heart deal Kushner got from the Chinese Insurance company?
What about the free advertising, and access for his kids and their businesses?
What about the Dakota Access Pipeline?

You think all the ways he can benefit will be even be possible to pay back? Or that even all the strictly financial benefits will be fully accounted for?

There are a conflicts of interests on a level we don't even know fully yet, there are multiple ways he can give advantages to those around him. And for other players in the world they can gain access by enriching him indirectly - by enriching his family.


Trump didn't need to become US President to live a rich lifestyle, he did it to satisfy his massive ego and he already regrets it.

Could there be some potential financial benefits as a result?  Maybe, but that does NOT mean it was his true motivation.

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qman said:
Could there be some potential financial benefits as a result?  Maybe, but that does NOT mean it was his true motivation.


I didn't say it was his true motivation. As I said, there are more benefits than financial. There are many factors at play as you point out..


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
He's a reality TV star.  You can't see how being President enriches him?  It's free publicity.


Great argument.

Every President gets free publicity. They even cut right into paid programming to deliver speeches. The President's job is to address the people. Look at most Presidents. They come in office poor, they exit the office with maybe a million or 2. They write a book they become best-sellers, then they go 500k speeches until they're all worth hundreds of millions. Even vice presidents can do it. Look at Al Gore. The guy is halfway to being a billionare.

Trump simply did all of those things before being President.

At some point you got realize the obvious here. Every President of any country is the most well known celebrity of the country.... If that's not pure common sense at this point, I don't know what to tell you people...

Let's take Obama's number

2007: 1.3 million net worth

Salary through 8 years at 400k = 3.2 million

Net worth 2016: 12.2 million  depending where you take the info/

I'll bet 100$ with anyone right now saying that 5 years from now he's got minimum 50 million in the bank guaranteed.


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Then why did you ask what benefit he's getting, if you already knew?


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Enlil said:
Then why did you ask what benefit he's getting, if you already knew?


I'm trying to know the special benefit he's getting. You know what mmakes him stand out from the other Presidents. Cause apparently he's special...


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No one has said he gets benefits other presidents don't get.  Every president is richer when he leaves office than he was when he went in.


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Enlil said:
No one has said he gets benefits other presidents don't get.  Every president is richer when he leaves office than he was when he went in.


If there's a President that didn't need the publicity to get rich before or after his Presidency it's Trump...


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Enlil said:
No one has said he gets benefits other presidents don't get.  Every president is richer when he leaves office than he was when he went in.


Naw, Hillary Clinton said her and Bill were flat broke when they left. Or was she lying about that?


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So?  Tipote said he was benefitting.  You asked how.  We answered.  Now you're talking about something completely different. 

P.S. Billionaires don't become billionaires because they're happy just to have their "needs" met.


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PeyoteZen said:
Naw, Hillary Clinton said her and Bill were flat broke when they left. Or was she lying about that?


Of course, she was lying.


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Enlil said:
So?  Tipote said he was benefitting.  You asked how.  We answered.  Now you're talking about something completely different. 

P.S. Billionaires don't become billionaires because they're happy just to have their "needs" met.


Tell that to Buffett. He gives himself 100k a year in salary


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Money isn't worth much if the dollar collapses and you don't have a country anymore. I think grandpa Trump has a reason for pursuing this presidency. Something to do with posterity... even if it's just for his grandkids to be able to flourish in their home country and not in some New Zealand hide-away. It's called 'enlightened self-interest'.


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Patlal said:
Tell that to Buffett. He gives himself 100k a year in salary


He makes far more than that every year.


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Of course being president increases your money making potential. The problem with trump is that unlike other presidents, he not waiting until he's out of office to take advantage. Mar Lago is a total pay for play situation. He doubled his membership fees, and his members get face time with him every time he's down there. It's unseemly as fuck.


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Enlil said:
Patlal said:
Tell that to Buffett. He gives himself 100k a year in salary


He makes far more than that every year.


No shit...


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I don't like the fact that he says he doesn't want his presidential salary. It sends a message that it's not his real job - he's just a volunteer and it's not really his main focus. (Which it isn't apparently, based on his performance)


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Then why waste our time with non sequiturs?


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koods said:
Of course being president increases your money making potential. The problem with trump is that unlike mother presidents, he not waiting until he's out of office to take advantage. Mar Lago is a total pay for play situation. He doubled his membership fees, and his members get face time with him every time he's down there. It's unseemly as fuck.


Nice Freudian slip, Koodsy.

Mar-a-Lago price hike part of a pay-for-play scheme? Explain. And while you're at it, please explain why you didn't care at all about Hillary's PROVEN pay-for-play operations.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Great Scott]
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Why do guys continue to talk about Hillary. She's living in the woods somewhere.


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How are Hillary's pay-to-play operations proven?

As someone volunteered for the Sanders campaign for over a year, I really wish I would've had that proof.


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Patlal said:
Tipote said:
I realise Trump has increasing incentive to stay President despite how much he sucks at it. Not only is he enriching his family business/himself but he benefits from immunity, right?


You're gonna have to expain how he's enriching himself. He doesn't even take the President's salary.

Present solid facts. Enough of these "I believe it therefore it's true". And also, I'm not gonna let you off the hook by saying he goes to his hotels. He made it clear that any proceeds from his hotels directly linked to him goes to the federal government. So actually try


the potus is required by article II of the Constitution to receive compensation during his presidency.  further, article II states that the salary can't be increased nor decreased during his presidency so he's collecting the full $400,000/yr salary.

he has stated he'll donate it, but rational people don't trust others who are known, proven, habitual liars.

having said that, idc about the whole salary issue; the reality teevee star is being enriched in myriad other ways as already stated by others ITT.

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koods said:
I don't like the fact that he says he doesn't want his presidential salary. It sends a message that it's not his real job - he's just a volunteer and it's not really his main focus. (Which it isn't apparently, based on his performance)


:huxleyfacepalm:

He's in it for himself.

He doesn't accept his salary

I don't like that he doesn't accept his salary.


Start making sense.... If it's not his main focus, then why is he working every day in the white house as President? What else is he doing in there? I bet he's skimming the visit tours...


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He isnt working everyday. Hes taking golf trips every 3 days on average.


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He's not in the White House everyday. He's spent a larger percentage of his time outside the White House than any modern president. (Another promise broken)


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He might be a public servant who's wealthy enough to not require a taxpayer-funded stipend. Imagine that. But on the other hand, it's pretty much a token gesture and doesn't amount to some significant cost savings to the taxpayer. $400k is a drop in the bucket compared to how much money the federal government pisses away every year on frivolous expenditures.


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Tipote said:
qman said:
Could there be some potential financial benefits as a result?  Maybe, but that does NOT mean it was his true motivation.


I didn't say it was his true motivation. As I said, there are more benefits than financial. There are many factors at play as you point out..


No one mentioned the tax cuts for the rich he would give himself.  Or deregulation of the businesses he owns.

His Presidential salary is chump change compared to what he's hoping to give himself.


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His goal is to cut taxes on everybody. The "rich" are included in that category, you class-envy-driven commie.


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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Tipote said:
qman said:
Could there be some potential financial benefits as a result?  Maybe, but that does NOT mean it was his true motivation.


I didn't say it was his true motivation. As I said, there are more benefits than financial. There are many factors at play as you point out..


No one mentioned the tax cuts for the rich he would give himself.  Or deregulation of the businesses he owns.

His Presidential salary is chump change compared to what he's hoping to give himself.


If we want to get technical. Every President gave themselves something. Presidents are part of the people and whenever they give the people something, they automatically benefit for it themselves. On top of the 203k they make a year after their term.


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PeyoteZen said:
His goal is to cut taxes on everybody. The "rich" are included in that category, you class-envy-driven commie.


As was previously pointed out, people in the lowest tax bracket actually get money back today, but under Trump, they get nothing and have to say "I win!" instead.

Here are the statistics for how much people actually pay:


SOURCE: Tax Policy Center, Table T13-0174, July 2013. Data are for 2014. Compiled by PGPF.
NOTE: A quintile is one fifth of the population. The breaks are (in 2013 dollars): 20% $24,191; 40% $47,261; 60% $79,521; 80% $134,266; 90% $180,482; 95% $261,471; 99% $615,048; 99.9% $3,170,865.


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Patlal said:
If we want to get technical. Every President gave themselves something. Presidents are part of the people and whenever they give the people something, they automatically benefit for it themselves.


WRONG.  Trump helping the rich at the expense of the poor and middle class benefits the rich ONLY.


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The Ecstatic said:
How are Hillary's pay-to-play operations proven?

As someone volunteered for the Sanders campaign for over a year, I really wish I would've had that proof.


Paging Dr. Peyote Zen


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I think a most conservatives and a handful of liberals believe anything they read on an internet blog.  :shrug:


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Not anything. Just anything that appears to confirm their prejudice.


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:raisemyglass:


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The Ecstatic said:
The Ecstatic said:
How are Hillary's pay-to-play operations proven?

As someone volunteered for the Sanders campaign for over a year, I really wish I would've had that proof.


Paging Dr. Peyote Zen


You gave that crooked bitch the benefit of the doubt on her $250k speaking fees... for starters... that would have been an adequate talking point on the campaign trail.
As for proof/evidence, it's a bit more complicated than I'm able or willing to articulate here. I suggest starting with this if you haven't already done so ---> http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-new-batch-hillary-clinton-emails/


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I think we all know politics today is pay to play.  Proving it is another story.



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True. But Hillary didn't just run a corporate donor-funded campaign AKA standard practice equally perpetuated by every major politician. She had her own thing going on the side in addition to that. It was called THE CLINTON FOUNDATION. She took what was already a corruptible profession via campaign donor pinky winks and took it to the next level even beyond that.


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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Patlal said:
If we want to get technical. Every President gave themselves something. Presidents are part of the people and whenever they give the people something, they automatically benefit for it themselves.


WRONG.  Trump helping the rich at the expense of the poor and middle class benefits the rich ONLY.


I agree, the Establishment will only let Trump pass his corporate and top individual tax cuts, and it will only increase the wealth inequality in the US.

Did Trump run for President to make sure that happened?  I doubt it, he's driven by his inflated ego and nothing more. It's always easier to just bribe the politicians to get rich instead of running for office, that's a no brainer. :lol:

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Finally. I was wondering when he would get around to fucking over gay people.

Less than two months after directly promising he would not repeal Obama’s discrimination protections for LGBT workers, Donald Trump has quietly revoked part of Obama’s discrimination protections for LGBT workers.


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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


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koods said:
Finally. I was wondering when he would get around to fucking over gay people.

Less than two months after directly promising he would not repeal Obama’s discrimination protections for LGBT workers, Donald Trump has quietly revoked part of Obama’s discrimination protections for LGBT workers.


Enlil said:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


I thought the same thing, what a crock of shit


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koods said:
Finally. I was wondering when he would get around to fucking over gay people.

Less than two months after directly promising he would not repeal Obama’s discrimination protections for LGBT workers, Donald Trump has quietly revoked part of Obama’s discrimination protections for LGBT workers.


How's that "fucking over gay people"?  It's still illegal to discriminate against them.

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They don't want equality, they want preferential treatment, just like every other protected class:rolleyes:


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hostileuniverse said:
They don't want equality, they want preferential treatment, just like every other protected class:rolleyes:


I'm waiting for the Polish American protection legislation, Obama just ignored us as we suffered years of hatred and discrimination.  :crankey:

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Where's my fucking protection? I'm tired of being passed over on promotions just because I'm not as qualified! It's horseshit! :psycrankey:


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qman said:
hostileuniverse said:
They don't want equality, they want preferential treatment, just like every other protected class:rolleyes:


I'm waiting for the Polish American protection legislation, Obama just ignored us as we suffered years of hatred and discrimination.  :crankey:


It's been illegal to discriminate against polish Americans for decades.

https://www.justice.gov/crt/federal-protections-against-national-origin-discrimination-1

Quote:
Federal laws prohibit discrimination based on a person's national origin, race, color, religion, disability, sex, and familial status. Laws prohibiting national origin discrimination make it illegal to discriminate because of a person's birthplace, ancestry, culture or language


:cookiemonster:


It's really rich when someone complains they aren't protected by a law when they are turns around and bitches about other people wanting the same type of protection.

It's 2017 and it's still perfectly legal under federal law to fire someone because they are gay (or straight for that matter - these laws work both ways).

"I don't like you because you're a fag. you're fired" ---> legal

"I don't like you because you're a polack. You're fired." ---> not legal


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koods said:
qman said:
hostileuniverse said:
They don't want equality, they want preferential treatment, just like every other protected class:rolleyes:


I'm waiting for the Polish American protection legislation, Obama just ignored us as we suffered years of hatred and discrimination.  :crankey:


It's been illegal to discriminate against polish Americans for decades.

https://www.justice.gov/crt/federal-protections-against-national-origin-discrimination-1

Quote:
Federal laws prohibit discrimination based on a person's national origin, race, color, religion, disability, sex, and familial status. Laws prohibiting national origin discrimination make it illegal to discriminate because of a person's birthplace, ancestry, culture or language


:cookiemonster:


It's really rich when someone complains they aren't protected by a law when they are turns around and bitches about other people wanting the same type of protection.




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No


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The Ecstatic said:
The Ecstatic said:
How are Hillary's pay-to-play operations proven?

As someone volunteered for the Sanders campaign for over a year, I really wish I would've had that proof.


Paging Dr. Peyote Zen


Are you kidding me?

Google search, "Hillary Clinton Haiti FOB"


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With the way people critique the charitable activities of wealthy people, trump was smart to never engage in any.


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PeyoteZen said:
The Ecstatic said:
The Ecstatic said:
How are Hillary's pay-to-play operations proven?

As someone volunteered for the Sanders campaign for over a year, I really wish I would've had that proof.


Paging Dr. Peyote Zen


You gave that crooked bitch the benefit of the doubt on her $250k speaking fees... for starters... that would have been an adequate talking point on the campaign trail.
As for proof/evidence, it's a bit more complicated than I'm able or willing to articulate here. I suggest starting with this if you haven't already done so ---> http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-new-batch-hillary-clinton-emails/


I did? When did I do that?


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Why are Hillary's speaking fees crooked, but I'm going to assume, according to PZ, Trumps equally (or even more) exorbitant fees perfectly above board?


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Lets be real, they are crooked. She is crooked.


But there is no proof.

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We just don't know how crooked Trump is because, unlike Hillary, almost none of his business activity is available for scrutiny. What we do know is he's been sued about 1400 more times than Hillary. We do know he settled suits accusing him of racial discrimination, failure to pay contractors, and racketeering and fraud.


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https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fobs-hillarys-state-dept-gave-special-attention-friends/story%3Fid%3D42615379


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Webster10 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fobs-hillarys-state-dept-gave-special-attention-friends/story%3Fid%3D42615379


Correlation is not causation. If you can prove in court that Hillary is corrupt I'm sure the President would love to get a hold of you.


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The Ecstatic said:
Webster10 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fobs-hillarys-state-dept-gave-special-attention-friends/story%3Fid%3D42615379


Correlation is not causation. If you can prove in court that Hillary is corrupt I'm sure the President would love to get a hold of you.


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Hillary is basically a D.C. mobster. They grease her palms and she gives them political favors. Everything from government positions to natural resources that don't rightfully belong to her (all while under the guise of running a "charity"). The Clintons and the U.N. completely raped Haiti in their time of need.

What a crooked, unfathomably evil bitch. I can't imagine being dumb enough to vote for that psychopathic criminal.


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Webster10 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Webster10 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fobs-hillarys-state-dept-gave-special-attention-friends/story%3Fid%3D42615379


Correlation is not causation. If you can prove in court that Hillary is corrupt I'm sure the President would love to get a hold of you.


:failboat:


The Ecstatic is right.  And I can make twice as strong an argument as you to prove it:

:failboat:  :failboat:

Seriously though, The Ecstatic dislikes Hillary as much as I do, and we couldn't care less if she's found guilty of anything.  What we don't like is people making things up without proof.  You should note I've been defending Trump from liberals who are doing that.  It goes both ways though.


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I still get a kick out of this gem



I love how not only did Comey know she did it, he had PROOF that she did it. He laid out the case against her, characterized her actions as being 'extremely careless' to avoid applying the law which merely requires for the offender to have been 'grossly negligent'. And follows that up with a "no reasonable prosecutor would pursue the case". Fuckin' insane. What kind of blood cult are these people involved in exactly? Buncha' made men and made women operating a mafia out of our people's republic.


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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Webster10 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Webster10 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fobs-hillarys-state-dept-gave-special-attention-friends/story%3Fid%3D42615379


Correlation is not causation. If you can prove in court that Hillary is corrupt I'm sure the President would love to get a hold of you.


:failboat:


The Ecstatic is right.  And I can make twice as strong an argument as you to prove it:

:failboat:  :failboat:

Seriously though, The Ecstatic dislikes Hillary as much as I do, and we couldn't care less if she's found guilty of anything.  What we don't like is people making things up without proof.  You should note I've been defending Trump from liberals who are doing that.  It goes both ways though.


Wrong. Ecstatic is wrong as are you. Ecstatic asked how Hillary Clintons pay to play actions can be proven. I provided evidence of her play to play actions. I proved it.


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You can't prove I'm a crack dealer. I'm just the guy who drops the crack rock in your lap after my homie walks up and takes the money first. It's like a triangle trade, dog. Totally untraceable.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Great Scott]
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The Ecstatic said:
Lets be real, they are crooked. She is crooked.


But there is no proof.

Btw, nothing in that judicialwatch article proves anything.


PeyoteZen said:
You can't prove I'm a crack dealer. I'm just the guy who drops the crack rock in your lap after my homie walks up and takes the money first. It's like a triangle trade, dog. Totally untraceable.


Let's be real, you're a crack dealer. You deal crack.

But there is no proof.


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Naw dog, it's untraceable. No court of law could convict me and find me guilty. My homie takes the "donation" and walks around the corner to bankroll it. Then I walk up and say "yo homie, I don't know what this is, but I think you dropped this, here you go". Like I said, totally untraceable.


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Quote:
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Wrong. Ecstatic is wrong as are you. Ecstatic asked how Hillary Clintons pay to play actions can be proven. I provided evidence of her play to play actions. I proved it.


:lmafo:


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PeyoteZen said:
I still get a kick out of this gem



I love how not only did Comey know she did it, he had PROOF that she did it. He laid out the case against her, characterized her actions as being 'extremely careless' to avoid applying the law which merely requires for the offender to have been 'grossly negligent'. And follows that up with a "no reasonable prosecutor would pursue the case". Fuckin' insane. What kind of blood cult are these people involved in exactly? Buncha' made men and made women operating a mafia out of our people's republic.


Regardless of what you want to believe, what you think she did isn't that serious a crime. (Not that I think she's did what you want to believe she did). It would be comparable to lobbying for a foreign government without registering as such. The fact is prosecutors choose not to prosecute all the time. Maybe it's not worth the time. Maybe they feel they wouldn't be able to get a conviction. Look up Scooter Libby.


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PeyoteZen said:
Naw dog, it's untraceable. No court of law could convict me and find me guilty. My homie takes the "donation" and walks around the corner to bankroll it. Then I walk up and say "yo homie, I don't know what this is, but I think you dropped this, here you go". Like I said, totally untraceable.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act


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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:
Webster10 said

Wrong. Ecstatic is wrong as are you. Ecstatic asked how Hillary Clintons pay to play actions can be proven. I provided evidence of her play to play actions. I proved it.


:lmafo:


Thw clinton foundation received donations from practically every country in the world. According to webster10, if Clinton dealt with any of those nations as Secretary of State, it's pay for play.


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koods said:
The fact is prosecutors choose not to prosecute all the time.


That really what you're going with? Hillary was/is guilty as hell and she was protected from prosecution. It wasn't just some nonchalant decision by the FBI and DOJ. Clinton is family in a family of swamp demons.


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The Ecstatic said:
PeyoteZen said:
Naw dog, it's untraceable. No court of law could convict me and find me guilty. My homie takes the "donation" and walks around the corner to bankroll it. Then I walk up and say "yo homie, I don't know what this is, but I think you dropped this, here you go". Like I said, totally untraceable.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act


No shit, Sherlock.


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It COULD be, but its not proven as fact.


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PeyoteZen said:
The Ecstatic said:
PeyoteZen said:
Naw dog, it's untraceable. No court of law could convict me and find me guilty. My homie takes the "donation" and walks around the corner to bankroll it. Then I walk up and say "yo homie, I don't know what this is, but I think you dropped this, here you go". Like I said, totally untraceable.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act


No shit, Sherlock.


Ok then your hypothetical is dogshit.


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Frankly, if she was truly corrupt there would have been direct evidence of it in her emails, or in podestas emails. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of emails and not a single incriminating piece of evidence. That's pretty stunning, actually. I doubt very many posting in this thread could have all their personal and work email correspondence scrutinized like that without some self incriminating content coming to light.


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Id be convicted for egregious dick pics


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:
Webster10 said

Wrong. Ecstatic is wrong as are you. Ecstatic asked how Hillary Clintons pay to play actions can be proven. I provided evidence of her play to play actions. I proved it.


:lmafo:


:lmafo: :lmafo:


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Webster10]
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Enlil said:
No one has said he gets benefits other presidents don't get.  Every president is richer when he leaves office than he was when he went in.


i know this isn't on topic anymore, but i'm pretty sure Jefferson came out of the white house deeper in debt than when he went in.

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Different white house, bro.

Besides, I meant culturally richer.


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PeyoteZen said:
Hillary is basically a D.C. mobster. They grease her palms and she gives them political favors. Everything from government positions to natural resources that don't rightfully belong to her (all while under the guise of running a "charity"). The Clintons and the U.N. completely raped Haiti in their time of need.

What a crooked, unfathomably evil bitch. I can't imagine being dumb enough to vote for that psychopathic criminal.


and that make lil'dick a plain mob'stah.

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Enlil said:
Besides, I meant culturally richer.


:lolsy:

i like that angle

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: ballsalsa]
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Cultural enrichment coming to a Grannskap near you!


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Great Scott]
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4 more after this term

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: NcShroomr] * 1
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Trump approval rating: 35%

52% are embarrassed to have trump as president.

4 more years :laugh2:


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a part of me wants the garbage fire to keep going for a full 8


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House intel committee member Joaquin Castro just stated that he predicts members of the administration and campaign will end up in jail re:Russia.


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He's doing a good job though


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Patlal]
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Ok


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He's doing a good job though


:smokinacandycane:


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Trump is very popular with the Canadians.


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they can have him

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they can have him


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Ezuma]
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He gets to be the captain of the sinking ship, and will get the blame from all the previous presidencies. There is a better than even chance of him becoming similar to Adolph Hitler.. except armed with nuclear weapons. It won't end well to be sure.


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He gets to be the captain of the sinking ship, and will get the blame from all the previous presidencies. There is a better than even chance of him becoming similar to Adolph Hitler.. except armed with nuclear weapons. It won't end well to be sure.


he's definitely the delegated 'fall guy', but I don't think he'll go down anything like Hitler. It'll be far more immediate and less spectacular than that :shrug:


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He's gonna pull a Palin


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"I can see Russia from my window in Trump tower! "

:chump: . . . :peace:


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Eywa_devotee said:
He gets to be the captain of the sinking ship, and will get the blame from all the previous presidencies.


If he lets the ship sink because of damage that occurred under past presidents, then yes, he'll get the blame.

His job is to fix the holes, not to bail himself and other rich people out while letting the rest of us sink.


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NcShroomr said:
4 more after this term


    Seems impossible politically.

    Seems equally impossible medically  given the state of his physique that he could be functional in 8 years. I'm not even going to regress to talk about how he looks when he's golfing, which he spends more time doing than anything else. Well actually I will. I used to only make fun of his hair and other than that he looks ok in a suitcoat. But on the golf course when he bends over to take a swing it's truly disgusting front and back. Between his gut and his ass he carrying around 3 extra people. Besides my partisanship, there is a huge medical problem here. A 70 year old can't live an extended life like that unless they are completely sedentary.

    If he makes it four years I would expect a heart procedure, if not a major surgery, and probably lap band or stomach stapling. If he stubbornly resists medical advice because he already knows everything he will likely die in office, with heavily increased odds if he made it to a 2nd term. I thinking dying in office is maybe the way he would like to leave this world. It has the sound at least of a heroic legacy

    I'm not hoping for any of this, in the first term. I hate everyone in the line of succession and they would work many more hours, relate much better with congress and probably do more harm. They would  pick a new cabinet but that would probably make things worse, effective but malevolent vs. no qualifications at all and a President who doesn't listen to anybody,

    I agree with those who say Trump will resign, either due to mounting external pressure or he becomes frustrated at not getting to do what he wants.


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Eywa_devotee said:
He gets to be the captain of the sinking ship, and will get the blame from all the previous presidencies. There is a better than even chance of him becoming similar to Adolph Hitler.. except armed with nuclear weapons. It won't end well to be sure.


 
    I've thought about those things, but as much as I despise him he doesn't strike me as a warmonger. It reminds me of the last scene in the movie Michael Clayton when George Clooney tells Tilda Swinton, "Karen you surprise me. I'm not the guy you kill! I'm the guy you pay!"

    I guess the procedure for the launch codes is a deep secret, who else has to be in the room, what are the safeguards?


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I don't think we should give Trump too much sympathy for inheriting a situation that other Presidents caused. Obama stepped into a much worse situation. The economy was in complete shambles where now it just halfway sucks. Everybody gets Bush's wars.

Trump is a maverick but its doubtful whether one man could get the radical military changes needed. I say pull out all the troops, and when necessary use missiles bombing and commando missions from helicopters, etc. We need better intelligence/espionage. We can't save their innocent civilians and boots on the ground wasn't really helping. Ideally we would tell all sides that our involvement is temporary and they must settle
their issues and fight their own wars. They are getting much better at killing ISIS. If Russia comes in from the other side fuck it. We don't need middle eastern oil and Russia remembers how their long war with the Afghans was a fail. Not sure of Russia's motives, they already have the warm water ports they coveted for decades.


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Enlil said:
Trump is very popular with the Canadians.



Maybe some right-wing nut job Canadians from Saskatchewan or Alberta. Most of Canada thinks he's a moron and an embarrassment to your country.


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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: sh4d0ws]
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some just want to see what happens.

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Re: How will the Trump presidency end [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said:
Patlal said:
He's doing a good job though


:smokinacandycane:


As far as his presidency goes, if Trump was in a boxing match he would be in the first few seconds of the first round. He has barely stepped in the ring. He wanted to be in this game and play this world leader shit, so now he is responsible for the world. He is getting nailed to the wall just like Obama

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/syria-bashar-al-assad-trump.amp.html

Justice? Well not quite. The president does a little bit of everything. A little bit of justice and a little bit of tyranny. If a fly lands on a spent shell case in Syria he is going to be informed. I assume being president is a 48 hour a day job and he is going to be having nightmares of mass murder and money. He wanted it.

Let's see how he does in the first round then maybe he will move to the second. He is a serious target also so no more chilling in Trump tower laughing at all the little people. Then again, when you are as wealthy as Trump, maybe he was already a target. In his imagination. Now he is a world international target. If someone wants to fly a plane into the white house lobby he might be there.(except that plane will be shot down, he'd have to be in the Pentagon)

Well it's harsh topic so it can only be described in it's most clear and concise sense of wording. I wouldn't want to be him


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Where the fuck is Pris?


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Bump because trump keeps having the worst week ever


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I'm getting hungry, now.

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1 or 3, he won't quit or die. I hope he doesn't finish one term.

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Patlal said:
Where the fuck is Pris?


Pros is gone..

:  :nofuckyouthough:

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He'll kill it with his own words


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In fire.


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Hes gonna win his second term if we aren't all dead by then


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He's NOT going to finish his  1st.

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here is how the Trump presidency will end:


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