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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
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Agreed


Yes agreed , Putin is your news source . Dore and Putin , seems solid .


Yup, people who look at facts, not people who say "The Government is keeping all the evidence secret, you just gotta believe 'em!"


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Ah yes which leads me to believe Russia was anti trump, because they knew that we’d know that they knew that we’d know


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Agreed.  And RT was clearly anti-Trump.


Which means Russia was likely pro-Trump.  Russia openly endorsing a candidate is going to hurt the candidate's chances.  Russia saying they don't want a certain person in office is a good way to boost that person's chances of winning.


Wow, you should enter a competition for mental gymnastics.  You'd do well.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Ah yes which leads me to believe Russia was anti trump, because they knew that we’d know that they knew that we’d know


Ooh, nice!  Giving Enlil a taste of his own medicine!!!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Dude, it's so transparent...you obviously don't want to see it.  Russia openly mocks trump to keep his name being said as often as possible.  At the same time, Russia covertly steals dem emails and floods social media in an effort to help Trump.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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I’m just so tired of the Russia narrative. Who gives a shit whether they were actively supporting Trump or not


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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And RT was clearly anti-Trump.



You know I don’t think I ever told you this but I’m not really that smart . You probably noticed .
Please explain the word affinity to me .

Quote:
RT America': The One News Outlet For Which Trump Retains An Unexpected Affinity


https://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505751335/-rt-america-the-one-news-outlet-for-which-trump-retains-an-unexpected-affinity

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For all of the vitriol Donald Trump aimed at the press during the campaign, there's one news outlet that he and others in his inner circle seem to be comfortable with. It's RT America, originally known as Russia Today. In the U.S., it's widely seen as a propaganda arm of the Kremlin, which owns and funds it


Did trump have an affinity for them because they were anti trump or what ? Confused again .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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if anyone knows anything about manipulating public opinion its a lawyer

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
I’m just so tired of the Russia narrative. Who gives a shit whether they were actively supporting Trump or not


he has dirty dealings with russian oligarchs and he's almost done selling the country out, its pretty much his only income

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
I’m just so tired of the Russia narrative. Who gives a shit whether they were actively supporting Trump or not


Yeah, I feel the same way.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Which means Russia was likely pro-Trump


Likely ? It’s pretty obvious they were . That’s usually what an applause means right ?



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Dude, it's so transparent...you obviously don't want to see it.  Russia openly mocks trump to keep his name being said as often as possible.


And the Ecstatic's rebuttal is also 'so transparent', you just don't want to see it (anyone can play your silly game).

Enlil said:
At the same time, Russia covertly steals dem emails and floods social media in an effort to help Trump.


Source, or make believe?

I've shown MANY times there is more evidence it wasn't Russia than it was:

1.  The FBI NEVER gave proof the Russian Government gave the emails to Wikileaks, even if Crowdstrike believes Russia hacked the emails.
2.  Julian Assange said he didn't get the emails from Russia.
3.  The FBI classified all their information about Seth Rich TOP SECRET.  Why?
4.  The FBI said they never checked Seth Rich's computer.  Why not???
5.  Seymour Hersh (the guy who exposed the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up) said a high ranking FBI official told him they found evidence on Seth Rich's computer that he had indeed been working with WikiLeaks.

Your reply is always the same tired "you gotta trust the Government, they're keeping all the evidence SECRET!!!!!"  :flowstone:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated] * 2
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cannabinated said:
The Ecstatic said:
I’m just so tired of the Russia narrative. Who gives a shit whether they were actively supporting Trump or not


he has dirty dealings with russian oligarchs and he's almost done selling the country out, its pretty much his only income


Implying that America wasn’t already sold out to oligarchs? Or that it’s almost finished because Trump’s term is almost up?

This is why I hate talking about Russia.

Let’s just ignore what a dogshit socioeconomic system America has and pretend that Putin is the root of all our issues.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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1.  It doesn't matter who gave them to Wikileaks.
2.  See answer to 1
3.  Seth rich is irrelevant to the issue
4.  See answer to 3
5.  See answer to 3.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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I agree as well

but there are different factions of oligarchs depending on how they get their money

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated] * 1
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nah, they all exist together to coordinate the raping of humanity

its why biden and trump are the same

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
Please explain the word affinity to me .

Quote:
RT America': The One News Outlet For Which Trump Retains An Unexpected Affinity


Did trump have an affinity for them because they were anti trump or what ? Confused again .


He has an affinity for them because they don't peddle in fake news like our mainstream media does.

Do you remember the game we played where I challenged anyone to find more fake news from RT than our mainstream media, and not a single person could find a single piece of fake news from RT?

That's why I think he has an affinity for RT.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
1.  It doesn't matter who gave them to Wikileaks.
2.  See answer to 1
3.  Seth rich is irrelevant to the issue
4.  See answer to 3
5.  See answer to 3.


Seriously.

None of this shit actually matters because we already know that

1. State actors (including those at the behest of the US) will leak damning information of other nations.
2. State actors will attack/discredit the information and the sources used to divulge it
3. State actors will kill people, even journalists, for various reasons.


So what does it matter if Russia hacked the DNC and gave Wikileaks the info and then Seth Rich tried to stop it and either GOP or Kremlin operatives killed him? Or maybe Rich was the leaker and the DNC killed him? What does knowing any of that actually change? If none of it happened we’re still living in the same reality where we already know it does happen.

It’s just this stupid pissing match this sub forum loves to do day after day.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
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Russia was likely pro-Trump


Likely ? It’s pretty obvious they were . That’s usually what an applause means right ?




I know a lot of Russian people.  The applause was out of politeness.  Hillary would have gotten the same applause.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Brian Jones said:
He (Trump) was who the Russians wanted in office.


You're into conspiracy theory now (unless you have proof)?  I already showed evidence they DIDN'T want Trump.

From RT:



Where's your evidence they did?  An opinion piece in the WSJ?


Putin explicitly said it. On camera.

reporter: Did you want Trump to win.
Putin; Yes. Yes I did.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/20/20 01:00 PM)

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