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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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No individual raindrop thinks it started a storm or is responsible for the storm. But like the raindrop every voter is responsible for Trump regardless of what was on your ballot

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
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No individual raindrop thinks....period.

Non-voters are equally responsible.  All evil needs to exist is for the good to do nothing.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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That logic makes no sense. That's like saying we all have to go participate in the child sex trade to change it for the better.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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Besides I'm not entirely apathetic. I do try to tell people to let the current empire crumble by cutting the roots off.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
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bodhisatta said:
That logic makes no sense. That's like saying we all have to go participate in the child sex trade to change it for the better.



It's nothing like that. It's more like you know about a child sex ring, but you've chosen to do nothing about it.

Votes determine the president.  By not voting, you have specifically chosen to let other people determine who the president is.  That makes you responsible.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Either of you hold hope that a wholesome/virtuous, effective, and appropriately relevant  group would fill the vacuum if the current empire did crumble?

Given human nature, is such a thing rational to presume?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
bodhisatta said:
That logic makes no sense. That's like saying we all have to go participate in the child sex trade to change it for the better.



It's nothing like that. It's more like you know about a child sex ring, but you've chosen to do nothing about it.

Votes determine the president.  By not voting, you have specifically chosen to let other people determine who the president is.  That makes you responsible.



This kind of implies there should be a president at all. Like child sex traffic rings we try to dismantle them from the outside.

Choosing the president is a game some people play with implications for everyone living within certain borders.

Buuuuttttt the only way to fix the system is to vote for the right people. That is some brainwashing

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated] * 1
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I mean what's your suggestions for what to do this next election. Go vote but not for trump or biden. Vote for someone else and literally throw my vote away but at least I can say I participated?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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Yeah, you can make nonsense posts like that because you have been afforded the opportunity to do so by a society.  That society that enables you to LARP as an anarchist is founded on hard work and centuries of refining.  You are absolutely free to move to Somalia and enjoy anarchy in all its glory. 

You're also free to sit in your home using your collectively funded electricity to post on a government funded internet and rail against the very society the fruits of which you seem to be enjoying.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 2
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The free to move argument comes out. Man i thought you of all people would be above that one. I like it here and I want to make it better. And a single person being president is ridiculous so is our two party system.

Also to think the internet, roads, etc.. would exist without our specific system of governance is beyond ridiculous. People made that shit not government. Our internet would be better and so would our roads

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
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But I did really want your honest opinion of what to do at the ballot box to make things better. Since not going to the ballot box is apparently worse?

Vote for the tragedy of the commons and enjoy our lackluster civil accomplishments. Best bridges in the world because of voting

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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Vote for someone who represents your ideology.  Simple enough.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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You can write in any canidate. The US standard of living is not A1, but it is close to the top. If we suck that bad, why do we have the highest immigration count than other countries? If one does not like the canidate for nomination, better get involved in the primaries.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Spoken like someone who has never left the us


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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Enlil said:
Vote for someone who represents your ideology.  Simple enough.



We both know a write in has a lower chance of winning an election than you buying a winning Powerball jackpot ticket

SirTripAlot said:
You can write in any canidate. The US standard of living is not A1, but it is close to the top. If we suck that bad, why do we have the highest immigration count than other countries? If one does not like the canidate for nomination, better get involved in the primaries.



Keep dreaming that primaries even matter lol.
And also think outside the box. The system is perfection? Bullshit we shouldn't even have primaries in the first place.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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Quote:
The free to move argument comes out. Man i thought you of all people would be above that one. I like it here and I want to make it better. And a single person being president is ridiculous so is our two party system.

Also to think the internet, roads, etc.. would exist without our specific system of governance is beyond ridiculous. People made that shit not government. Our internet would be better and so would our roads




 
  Infrastructure has to be built to a govt enforced building code or it will fail and kill people .
  Think of what buying a house would be like without the permitting process . You would have no way of knowing if what you are buying is safe to live in or even worth the money your spending .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
Spoken like someone who has never left the us



Been on three deployments and have seen over 15 different countires. King of what again?


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
But she did inspire this song:





She also was with Peter Gabriel for 4 years and inspired "In Your Eyes". I'm biased, but on a 1-10 scale I put Gabriel about 7 above Toto. Porcaro is a good producer and arranger but the band sucked. Toto Too was a clever name for a 2nd album.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
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What system should we have? Canidates that are chosen and voted for by those in power?


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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