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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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Here's the hyptohesis;

ZombiWurm said:
Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.



We tested the hypothesis by holding a vote of popularity.

The results;

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The 2016 United States presidential election in California of November 8, 2016, was won by Democrat Hillary Clinton with a 61.7% majority of the popular vote over Republican Donald Trump.


As a result, it can be concluded that Trump did not win because he wasn't a career politician, as the career politician opponent received more votes.

We can whine and twist all we like, the facts are, the non-career politician actually garnered less support from voters.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

Edited by christopera (12/27/19 11:35 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Sulfurshelfsean said:
ZombiWurm said:
Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.


And lo and behold Trump did what every scummy politician does and appointed criminals to his cabinet. He drained the swamp so he could find his cabinet at the bottom. People with thatvmindset have just followed his cult of personality like good little sheeple.


And who did Obama put in cabinet?  That's right, he didn't even promise to drain the swamp.  :lol:


Who said I thought Obama appointed good cabinet members? Your assumption is that my tongue is buried up obamas ass and im not sure what ever gave you that idea.


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Everything is better when it is done ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN!

Edited by Sulfurshelfsean (12/27/19 01:12 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 4
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Its a common misconception that being in disagreement with conservative nonsense is synonymous with having love for Obama's neoliberal policies.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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It seems so. This "im rubber youre glue, trump did it, but obama did it too!" Mentality just shows that trump is just as bad as Obama...regardless of whether or not he was a politician before he became president.


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Everything is better when it is done ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN!

Edited by Sulfurshelfsean (12/27/19 02:22 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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ballsalsa said:
Its a common misconception that being in disagreement with conservative nonsense is synonymous with having love for Obama's neoliberal policies.


It's no different than defending false allegations against Trump and automatically being labeled a Trump supporter.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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Well, in Europe they sell Trump as somekind of evil megalomaniac stupid clown.

It is possible to him to be reelected? What kind of people vote for him?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: living_failure] * 1
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living_failure said:
Well, in Europe they sell Trump as somekind of evil megalomaniac stupid clown.

It is possible to him to be reelected? What kind of people vote for him?


Well, the MSM in the US and EU are Fake News when it comes to Trump. So I'm not surprised that most EU citizens are massively uninformed when it comes to these issues.

Also, Trump is currently leading the polls against ALL Democratic candidates.

"What kind of people vote for him?"

They're mostly deplorable and irredeemable. :cookiemonster:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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Mostly

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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Trump is only leading in the polls written with a sharpie.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: JohnRainy]
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Canada's national broadcaster cut Trump's  'Home Alone' cameo in 2014. 

5 years later the Trump family started to shriek about it. 

It's kind of a funny story.

“I guess Justin T doesn’t much like my making him pay up on NATO or Trade!”

Trump Jr. Has Meltdown After CBC Cuts His Dad’s Part From ‘Home Alone 2’ Broadcast

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: JohnRainy] * 1
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-party-sets-fundraising-record-amid-impeachment-battle

Good job Dem's, you're getting the entire Republican Party even stronger from this impeachment nonsense. :facepalm:

"Trump Fundraising Skyrockets Post Impeachment"


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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No, i mean, i dont trust european media at all.

Trump was chosen by the USA people.
If the voters were dumb and evil, USA is doomed.
If the voters were dumb but good, and got tricked, USA is doomed.
If the voters were smart and evil, USA is doomed.
If the voters were smart and good, and got tricked, Trump is Smarter than the opposition says.


So, as a european in a country with no nuclear weapons i must watch carefull the state of USA, because you can wipe us all, or just destroy the dollar value, which would wipe us all too.

It is USA and the world, that are doomed? or maybe, maybe, Trump is not a clown? I fail to see another option.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: living_failure] * 1
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G. All of the above.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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Trump Jr.'s book skyrocketed up the best seller list too.  It had little to do with people buying it in the normal way. 

So some president who represents wealth and privilege got lots of money quickly.  No breakdown.  Just assurances from Trump and sycophants that it really means something.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
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Theres a video of Trump from 1992 or 94 where he said that he does not want to run for president but if he did he would run as a republican because they will believe anything he says. I don't believe he identifies with any particular political party. Also, theres a video of Hillary calling inner city black people "super predators" and saying she doesn't support gay marraige.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: living_failure]
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I don't trust anything European. Not the people, media or anything. All of their governments suck and the people are annoying and condescending in general.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: living_failure] * 1
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living_failure said: Trump was chosen by the USA people.
If the voters were dumb and evil, USA is doomed.
If the voters were dumb but good, and got tricked, USA is doomed.
If the voters were smart and evil, USA is doomed.
If the voters were smart and good, and got tricked, Trump is Smarter than the opposition says.


So, as a european in a country with no nuclear weapons i must watch carefull the state of USA, because you can wipe us all, or just destroy the dollar value, which would wipe us all too.

It is USA and the world, that are doomed? or maybe, maybe, Trump is not a clown? I fail to see another option.


There is another possibility you have not mentioned. Trump was the candidate who connected with enough voters in the critical states to get elected. The voters were no different than in any other election and the outcome was not particularly good or evil - just constitutional.

There are many positive indicators both in the US and globally. The US economy is doing great, there is more wealth to go around and everyone, including the Black and Latino communities, appear to be benefitting. The dialogue with the NK has been opened and the beligerent behaviour of the Kim guy (nuke tests, constant threats) has stopped. Syria appears to be stabilizing and the US pullout from Afghanistan is being negotiated. The Chinese rape of the World economy has been exposed and confronted. The US relationship with Russia is less strained than under Obama and Putin's expansion in Ukraine has stopped.

No one is doomed - what you may be referring to is that the progressives have gone nuts and are portraying Trump as a dangerous monster. They keep coming up with the PR hoaxes which disintegrate under scrutiny. He was a Hitler character who would destroy democracy in the US - he did not. He supposedly said that neo-Nazis are fine people - he did not. He was suspected to be a Russian intelligence asset - he is not. He was remotely diagnosed by CNN as insane - he is not. He was going to cause recession - he did not. He was ready to sign a bad agreement with China to save face - he did not. The current hoax is that he abused power and obstructed investigation - the partisan impeachment which is part of this particular hoax will be dismissed by the Senate.

As a citizen of EU you should be more concerned about the Communists in your political elites who want to create the United Socialist European Republic. They are dangerous people and Brexit will only embolden them. This is much more scary than 4 more years of Trump.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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Biden has just declared he is going to obstruct the Senate investigation by defying any subpoena to testify. So the Dems want a trial with witnesses but their own presidential frontrunner is refusing to take part. He would have to go under oath to answer questions about his dodgy dealings with Ukrainians and is panicking.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/27/politics/joe-biden-senate-impeachment-trial-testify/index.html

The Dems impeachment hoax is disintegrating. Ostensibly they want a Senate trial but Pelosi is refusing to forward the articles of impeachment and Biden will not testify. What a joke.

Edited by Metoo (12/27/19 10:10 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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The dialogue with the NK has been opened and the beligerent behaviour of the Kim guy (nuke tests, constant threats) has stopped.


Well that’s just false. They’ve been firing off missiles every other week. They have been making belligerent threats to the point that US forces are on alert now for new ICBM tests. Talk have broken down. It’s pretty clear that Trump has completely failed on North Korea.

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Syria appears to be stabilizing and the US pullout from Afghanistan is being negotiated.


You might want to pick up a paper. There’s some bad shit going down in Syria right now. Massive bombing of civilians and ethnic cleansing. The pullout negotiations do not appear to be going well in Afghanistan after the camp David thing. There’s been no news for months.

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The Chinese rape of the World economy has been exposed and confronted.


How so exactly? Our trade deficit with China is worse than its ever been.


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The US relationship with Russia is less strained than under Obama and Putin's expansion in Ukraine has stopped.


Most people think the relationship hasn’t been this bad since the end of the Cold War.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-russia-ties-at-most-dangerous-point-for-years-says-a-top-moscow-diplomat-11560276589

Both sides seem to agree on this. Russia just violated and withdrew from a major arms control treaty this summer. And Russia is still in the Ukraine.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
Biden has just declared he is going to obstruct the Senate investigation by defying any subpoena to testify. So the Dems want a trial with witnesses but their own presidential frontrunner is refusing to take part. He would have to go under oath to answer questions about his dodgy dealings with Ukrainians and is panicking.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/27/politics/joe-biden-senate-impeachment-trial-testify/index.html

The Dems impeachment hoax is disintegrating. Ostensibly they want a Senate trial but Pelosi is refusing to forward the articles of impeachment and Biden will not testify. What a joke.


Why would Biden testify? Trump is the one on trial.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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