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Offlinegermin8tionn8ion
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Hitler V Saddam
    #2848560 - 07/01/04 09:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A letter to the editor in the Post (Washington) the other day (forgot when) went something to the effect of...

"Sure Hitler and Saddam were both evil guys, but Hitler was a threat to the US and was invading his neighbors. We shouldn't intervene unless someone is a threat to us. We were right in overthrowing Hitler, but not right in overthrowing Saddam."

I think that a lot of people in here have said, basically, the same thing. So, let me ask you this.

If Adolf Hitler's Wehrmact had never invaded any neighboring nation, would a war with him have been just? This also excludes the alliance formed in the Triumverate Alliance, thus Japans attack on the US wouldn't be grounds for war against Germany or Italy.

If we knew of the Holocaust, but used the prescription for war that so many weak-minded liberals here use, the "If they aren't a threat, let them be" logic, should we have just said "Bah fuck those 6 million jews, homo's and blacks, as long as he doesn't bother us directly, who cares?" If you don't think we should have, and you do think we should have intervened to stop the massacre of civilians, then don't you think the "unless they pose a threat to us" credo is pretty weak?


On a personal note, i'm working a new job now that gives me about 100-105 hours per week (at 43$/hour regular pay, plus overtime, holy fuck I love money) so I might nto be around as much as I'd like to be to keep this thread going. I promise I'll come in as much as I can and not leave my child to wiher on the vine. Thanks.


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2849058 - 07/02/04 12:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Where does that sort of logic end?





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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2849111 - 07/02/04 12:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

*rim shot*


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2849643 - 07/02/04 02:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If Adolf Hitler's Wehrmact had never invaded any neighboring nation, would a war with him have been just?

Depends why he's being invaded.



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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2849964 - 07/02/04 03:27 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

if he didnt invade other countries he wouldnt of killed 6 million people.... most likely would of been a civil war (your country went through that too you know, just not as horrible as theirs did).


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2850226 - 07/02/04 06:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hahaha, we knew they were killing jews all along, george herbert walker bush funded it and had his assets seased for trading with the enemy, and we knew the japanese were gunna atack us. why did we enter word war 2, germany was trying to take over the world... and thats our job. and america like sucks, huhuhuhuhu, and conservitives are stupid and illogical huhuhuhu<beavis and butthead laugh


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: mescalinemark]
    #2850229 - 07/02/04 06:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

we knew they were killing jews all along, george herbert walker bush funded it and had his assets seased for trading with the enemy, and we knew the japanese were gunna atack us. why did we enter word war 2, germany was trying to take over the world... and thats our job.




Do they not teach history in school anymore?


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: mescalinemark]
    #2850230 - 07/02/04 06:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Come now calm down back in the cage you go...

There doesn't that feel better?
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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2850472 - 07/02/04 09:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You have to consider the fact that most of Saddam's war crimes occurred while we were supporting him. Who knows what might have happened if we had refused to do so?


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2850499 - 07/02/04 10:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

On a personal note, i'm working a new job now that gives me about 100-105 hours per week (at 43$/hour regular pay, plus overtime, holy fuck I love money) so I might nto be around as much as I'd like to be to keep this thread going. I promise I'll come in as much as I can and not leave my child to wiher on the vine. Thanks.





So you felt the need to tell us how much you will get paid? hmmph.


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2850560 - 07/02/04 10:41 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I did the math. If he works 100 hours in a week he?ll earn $5,590 or so. Am I right?






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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2850576 - 07/02/04 10:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

depends on the tax bracket he's in, i didn't take the time to figure it out.....i'd never take that kind of pay cut.  :grin:


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Learyfan]
    #2850822 - 07/02/04 01:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't realise fluffing paid that well.


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2850855 - 07/02/04 01:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

wow, you do have a sense of humor, good job :thumbup:


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2850894 - 07/02/04 01:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You're scaring me now inny..


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: Xlea321]
    #2851125 - 07/02/04 02:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

That's my goal.


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2851711 - 07/02/04 04:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Holocaust couldn't have happened without Hitler invading most of Europe...so trying to say "well if he DIDN'T invade all those countries but still ordered the Holocaust" is pointless.


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: trendal]
    #2852311 - 07/02/04 08:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I think that most of the camps were in Germany and Poland, weren't they? Not many people visit France to study the Holocaust, right? Lets say just the ones in Germany, then. Would you (silversoul7 especially) have thought that sanctions by the UN were the best answer?


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2852408 - 07/02/04 09:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Poland was the main place for the concentration camps, and if you remember correctly, it wasn't until he invaded Poland that the war began. As for sanctions, I don't think they were the best answer. I think that not supporting Saddam in the first place while he was committing those atrocities would be a better answer.


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Re: Hitler V Saddam [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2852821 - 07/03/04 01:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

so if "Sadam kills so many thousands" how come the million or 2 killed in the vietnam war werent counted? sure we bitched and protested and made them look bad, but where was the yanks war crime trials? I cant stand the hypocricy we live in.


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