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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
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His book has 2.7 stars on Amazon. 51% are 1 star votes, lol.
http://www.amazon.com/Courage-Act-Memoir-Crisis-Aftermath/dp/039324721X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446000847&sr=8-1&keywords=Ben+Bernanke
I'm definitely not a Bernanke fan at all ... Globalist.
yep. like bush. and obama.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: starfire_xes]
#22442228 - 10/27/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man we have been on a serious tangent for some time now, haha.
I feel like I started it all with my first post back on page 18... Where's astral pain with some fresh email hearing material?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: amp244]
#22442261 - 10/27/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My whole point throughout most of these posts is the Government is the last fucking entity on this earth I trust to fix problems.
And the first thing that anyone can do that will convince me that the government is in good faith trying to fix things, is when they take a fucking chainsaw to the budget and actually cut spending.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: starfire_xes]
#22442322 - 10/27/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And the first thing that anyone can do that will convince me that the government is in good faith trying to fix things, is when they take a fucking chainsaw to the budget and actually cut spending.
Don't hold your breath.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
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The way I see it, while there is some collusion between corporate power with one another and with government, I think most of what appears to be NWO actions are really just people in power acting in their own best interest, which happens to align with one another, generally speaking. Most markets are already dominated by a small number of companies, and they all want the same things. Generally they no longer want to compete with one another for a larger market share unless there is a relatively cheap and easy way to do so.
They're all moving and shaking in the same direction. Not because of some master plan. It is simply mutually beneficial, most of the time. I wish voters would do the same. We are more powerful than oligarchs.
After the shaky ground this election has presented from voters, they sill surely want the game to be even more rigged. Hillary will likely win, but they now have reason to be skeptical of their grip on voters, and it is in every oligarchs mutual interest to suppress voters knowledge and power even further. I don't think they're gathering in some smoke filled back room to plot against us. They already know what they want, and they all want the same thing, generally speaking.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: amp244]
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First off, I want to say that KauaiOrca really knows his shit, and I agree with all of his recent posts. 
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amp244 said: Are you familiar with the concept of timely reporting? What good is information to congress if they don't get it until years after it would have been useful?
They didn't know how much the Fed had lost the moment Grayson asked them (because they weren't losing any), but it didn't take "years" to figure it out. And it's not the Fed's job to make a shitload of money anyway; their job is to provide a stable monetary and financial system. And they did prevent another Great Depression, in spite of many people believing it would happen (and some here still believing it will happen).
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amp244 said: If you are content with private bankers who are supposed to be under the watchful eye of congress being able to implement these kinds of massive and market swinging strategies without having to disclose information in a timely manner, then again you are a lost cause.
Again, they not only prevented a Great Recession, they also kept inflation under control. That's a HUGE feat, whether or not you believe conspiracy theories about the Fed.
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amp244 said: And you are all placing the blame on congress, but they are mere pawns in the scheme. The heart of the problem is the Fed. They are the policy setters, they are the ones pulling the strings.
You'll need to back that statement up, or it's just conspiracy theory. Congress are the ones that repealed Glass Steagal, Congress are the ones that gave the bailout money to the rich, Congress are the ones that didn't do much, if anything for Main Street.
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amp244 said: Congress has less than an hour to read the bailout bill of 1000 pages and then vote on it. They don't have a say in anything that goes on regarding the economy. That's why a few of the ones who aren't completely compromised are so damn pissed.
I guess you don't realize just how fast the financial system was collapsing. There's a really good Frontline documentary about it; unfortunately it's an hour long.
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That's an interesting conspiracy theory without evidence. Let me ask you this, how much are the leaders of this Federal Reserve worth, and where did that money come from??? I bet you won't answer...
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22443017 - 10/28/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: when fal knows he is wrong he never admits it he tries to change the subject and bring in irrelevant junk. He is slipperier than a bag of greased up eels but will not debate honestly. He probably thinks he is honest but constantly goes off on tangents and brings in red herrings.
When you make such a claim, please back it up. Otherwise, you sound like a child. If you have an example of a point I dodged that you wanted me to address, be a man and tell me.
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If I didn't squirm, change the subject, or bring in false narratives, etc, I did so by my own choice. Thank you for acknowledging this though.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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qman said: Banks can fail, it's NOT the end of the world. What are you going to support when the next financial crisis hits the financial sector? I assume more of the same since the ends justify the means in your mind.
We know from the first great depression that it's EXTREMELY difficult to recover from a great depression without a massive Government stimulus. That's not something I care to support.
I've previously mentioned I support reform that would prevent banks from getting too big to fail, and reimplementing laws to help avert financial crises so that we don't have a "next financial crisis". 
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And the justifying of bad behavior continues, my answer is so what? If I bought car insurance from a company that was heavily leveraged and they couldn't make good on my accident insurance, I learned my lesson.
What's the lesson? Not to buy car insurance??? They're not going to tell you about their financial dealings.
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Really, the $4 trillion on the Fed's balance sheet helped Joe Six-Pack and his issues? I don't think so.
It helped the boys on Wall Street, guess who owns the majority of the stocks, bonds, and real estate that got pumped up? Not Joe Six-Pack and friends.
Of course I agree. But that's the fault of how Congress allocated the money they had. They could have given a lot more to Main Street.
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For the people at the top, how come the rich haven't suffered one bit from this real economic downturn? Who's still worse off since before the crisis? Main Street. During the Great Depression both the rich and middle class took the economic pain, this time around it's NOT the case.
Agreed. And again, Congress is to blame for how the money was allocated.
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It wouldn't be easy, but we should elect people who campaign on breaking up too big to fail, like Elizabeth Warren for one.
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KauaiOrca said: You guys do realize that a big contraction of the money supply literally guarantees a steep recession and probably, given how weak things are, a depression, right?
The gold standard and tighter lending policy would be a shock that would bring America to its knees ... and interest rates would go higher as well.
Does racking up $20 trillion in Federal debt sound like a better long term alternative? Both monetary systems have lots of flaws.
The debt has nothing to do with the monetary system we use; it has to do with the Government spending more than it collects in taxes.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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This is a rhetorical question as much as anything else, but I wonder why so many people are hot and bothered about an unproven hypothesis--man made global warming,and panicked about what might happen in 20 or thirty years, but are not at all concerned about leaving a massive credit card bill for future generations to repay?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said: This is a rhetorical question as much as anything else, but I wonder why so many people are hot and bothered about an unproven hypothesis--man made global warming,and panicked about what might happen in 20 or thirty years, but are not at all concerned about leaving a massive credit card bill for future generations to repay?
I gotta you're spot on, no taxation without representation, so how can they leave a tax bill for future generations who have no say in how any of this money is being spent? How fucking evil is that?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
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starfire_xes said: This is a rhetorical question as much as anything else, but I wonder why so many people are hot and bothered about an unproven hypothesis--man made global warming,and panicked about what might happen in 20 or thirty years, but are not at all concerned about leaving a massive credit card bill for future generations to repay?
I gotta you're spot on, no taxation without representation, so how can they leave a tax bill for future generations who have no say in how any of this money is being spent? How fucking evil is that?
Just out of curiosity, who have you voted for in the last 4 elections, if you're old enough to vote?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
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starfire_xes said: This is a rhetorical question as much as anything else, but I wonder why so many people are hot and bothered about an unproven hypothesis--man made global warming,and panicked about what might happen in 20 or thirty years, but are not at all concerned about leaving a massive credit card bill for future generations to repay?
I gotta you're spot on, no taxation without representation, so how can they leave a tax bill for future generations who have no say in how any of this money is being spent? How fucking evil is that?
Just out of curiosity, who have you voted for in the last 4 elections, if you're old enough to vote?
Lol, what? Republican or democrat, it doesn't matter, stealing from future generations, many of whom aren't even born yet, is okay with you?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Lol, what? Republican or democrat, it doesn't matter, stealing from future generations, many of whom aren't even born yet, is okay with you?
Of course it isn't. Show me one post that suggests I'm for increasing debt?
I'm strongly for a balanced budget amendment with prison time for elected officials that ignore it.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Lol, what? Republican or democrat, it doesn't matter, stealing from future generations, many of whom aren't even born yet, is okay with you?
Of course it isn't. Show me one post that suggests I'm for increasing debt?
I'm strongly for a balanced budget amendment with prison time for elected officials that ignore it.
Agreed, but if you support programs that increase debt, you support it, just saying
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22443704 - 10/28/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agreed, but if you support programs that increase debt, you support it, just saying
Not really. One can support spending programs and "support" revenue generation programs that balance it. Can't have one without the other.
Only an idiot thinks we can reduce taxes from the level they're at now and somehow magically balance our budgets and pay down our debts.
I'm for BIG spending cuts at the military (5% every year for 5 straight years then lock in at a 25% cut for next 10 years), means testing for Social Security and Medicare, reform of our crazy drug laws, elimination of foreign aid with countries that are not strong allies, elimination of all forms of corporate welfare and increasing the retirement age with strong incentives for Seniors to get involved in tutoring kids, helping with health care and other community building services.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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qman said: Banks can fail, it's NOT the end of the world. What are you going to support when the next financial crisis hits the financial sector? I assume more of the same since the ends justify the means in your mind.
We know from the first great depression that it's EXTREMELY difficult to recover from a great depression without a massive Government stimulus. That's not something I care to support.
I've previously mentioned I support reform that would prevent banks from getting too big to fail, and reimplementing laws to help avert financial crises so that we don't have a "next financial crisis". 
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qman said: "so many derivatives tied to those assets"
And the justifying of bad behavior continues, my answer is so what? If I bought car insurance from a company that was heavily leveraged and they couldn't make good on my accident insurance, I learned my lesson.
What's the lesson? Not to buy car insurance??? They're not going to tell you about their financial dealings.
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qman said: "I don't think the bailouts are at fault for the inequality"
Really, the $4 trillion on the Fed's balance sheet helped Joe Six-Pack and his issues? I don't think so.
It helped the boys on Wall Street, guess who owns the majority of the stocks, bonds, and real estate that got pumped up? Not Joe Six-Pack and friends.
Of course I agree. But that's the fault of how Congress allocated the money they had. They could have given a lot more to Main Street.
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qman said: "The bailouts prevented an economic depression"
For the people at the top, how come the rich haven't suffered one bit from this real economic downturn? Who's still worse off since before the crisis? Main Street. During the Great Depression both the rich and middle class took the economic pain, this time around it's NOT the case.
Agreed. And again, Congress is to blame for how the money was allocated.
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qman said: You guys want to break them up after the fact, how are you going to break up something you made even more powerful? Not gonna happen.
It wouldn't be easy, but we should elect people who campaign on breaking up too big to fail, like Elizabeth Warren for one.
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KauaiOrca said: You guys do realize that a big contraction of the money supply literally guarantees a steep recession and probably, given how weak things are, a depression, right?
The gold standard and tighter lending policy would be a shock that would bring America to its knees ... and interest rates would go higher as well.
Does racking up $20 trillion in Federal debt sound like a better long term alternative? Both monetary systems have lots of flaws.
The debt has nothing to do with the monetary system we use; it has to do with the Government spending more than it collects in taxes.
"The debt has nothing to do with the monetary system we use"
Yes it does, a gold standard automatically creates fiscal discipline, why do you think we left it in the first place? We started running large fiscal deficits and didn't want the remainder of the gold to leave the US.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: qman]
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"The debt has nothing to do with the monetary system we use"
Yes it does, a gold standard automatically creates fiscal discipline, why do you think we left it in the first place? We started running large fiscal deficits and didn't want the remainder of the gold to leave the US.
It's amazing what dumb wars (Vietnam) and huge unfunded increases in social spending will do. The Bretton Woods changes under Nixon were a direct reaction to the desire to break away from disciplined spending/debt levels as a result of fiscal problems created by LBJ.
Is it your position the Federal Reserve was behind our move away from the Gold Standard?
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
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"The debt has nothing to do with the monetary system we use"
Yes it does, a gold standard automatically creates fiscal discipline, why do you think we left it in the first place? We started running large fiscal deficits and didn't want the remainder of the gold to leave the US.
It's amazing what dumb wars (Vietnam) and huge unfunded increases in social spending will do. The Bretton Woods changes under Nixon were a direct reaction to the desire to break away from disciplined spending/debt levels as a result of fiscal problems created by LBJ.
Is it your position the Federal Reserve was behind our move away from the Gold Standard?
I think the US wanted the status of the worlds reserve currency without the handcuffs of a gold standard, kind of having your cake and eating it as well.
The politicians didn't mind it, run up deficits without any ramifications in the short term.
Will a global debt reset bring back some sort of fiscal discipline that involves gold? Could be.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: qman]
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"The debt has nothing to do with the monetary system we use"
Yes it does, a gold standard automatically creates fiscal discipline, why do you think we left it in the first place? We started running large fiscal deficits and didn't want the remainder of the gold to leave the US.
It's amazing what dumb wars (Vietnam) and huge unfunded increases in social spending will do. The Bretton Woods changes under Nixon were a direct reaction to the desire to break away from disciplined spending/debt levels as a result of fiscal problems created by LBJ.
Is it your position the Federal Reserve was behind our move away from the Gold Standard?
I think the US wanted the status of the worlds reserve currency without the handcuffs of a gold standard, kind of having your cake and eating it as well.
The politicians didn't mind it, run up deficits without any ramifications in the short term.
Will a global debt reset bring back some sort of fiscal discipline that involves gold? Could be.
My guess is the global debt reset will involve the introduction of a competing alternative global currency into the global markets. It will be very slow and gradual, but it's coming. And it will be pegged to something ... not just gold ... maybe a basket of commodities INCLUDING oil.
This global currency system will then be used to retire system threatening debt in exchange for increased regulatory power. Just my prediction.
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Re: Hillary 'Turns Over' E-mail Server and Thumbnail drive to FBI [Re: KauaiOrca]
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My guess is the global debt reset will involve the introduction of a competing alternative global currency into the global markets. It will be very slow and gradual, but it's coming. And it will be pegged to something ... not just gold ... maybe a basket of commodities INCLUDING oil.
This global currency system will then be used to retire system threatening debt in exchange for increased regulatory power. Just my prediction.
Whoa whoa whoa. I made the same ominous prediction of a global currency coupled with sweeping regulatory power and was described as buying into the latest iteration of delusional apocalyptic thinking.
I agree with this looming debt reset. Central banks have been buying gold for the past 5 years, after selling since the late 1980's. We might not be that far off.
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