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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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can anything be definatively proved?
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is it possible to prove ANYTHING, beyond a shadow of a doubt?
the following questions- is it really possible to truly prove any of them, totally and definatively?

God does/does not exist?
there is/isnt a multiverse?
life is/isnt a dream/hallucination/simulation?
you do/dont exist?

these are just random questions, but you get the idea, right?

i mean, can anything REALLY be proved?


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
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no. nothing is 100% certain.

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
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This is why I try and base my beliefs on probabilities. 

Use "Maybe Logic"  :wink:. 


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I keep it real because I think it is important that a highly esteemed individual such as myself keep it real lest they experience the dreaded spontaneous non-existance of no longer keeping it real. - Hagbard Celine

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
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theres just probabilities. but i cant prove that


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if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: CleverName]
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Anything can be definatively proved if you believe it is proved in your mind. Reality is not what everyone sees, its what you yourself see and believe. So, if you believe that something has been proved (no matter what drove you to believe this) then it definatively is true. anyone agree/disagree on any level?

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
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proved in the sense of a mathematical proof, as in using logic, no. but that's what is great about these things!


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: DankBluntZ]
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I disagree. A lot of people think they're wonderful, attractive, talented etc., while the masses of people would disagree. Some things are determined, I don't buy the karmic cycles or the "you make reality" philosophies. although sometimes I do see how the "you make reality" philosophy can play out in many peoples' lives.

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: DankBluntZ]
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Can I survive a gunshot to the back of my head if I believe it won't hurt me?


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: Phluck]
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Phluck said:
Can I survive a gunshot to the back of my head if I believe it won't hurt me?



Once you get shot in the back of the head i gaurantee you will no longer believe that it won't hurt you. You will probably no longer believe a lot of things since youll most likely be dead. your reality would have changed.

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: DankBluntZ]
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In that case the gun must exist for sure, and your must know for sure that discharging one into your skull can change your reality.

If any aspect of reality can be changed through belief, why can't this one?


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: Phluck]
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Damn there's some hardcore retards going around these parts

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: ]
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If nonone can define reality how can anything be proven o exist or happen? Like my sig says.


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: Phluck]
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Phluck said:
In that case the gun must exist for sure, and your must know for sure that discharging one into your skull can change your reality.



If you know for sure that discharging a bullet into your head can change your reality then you do not believe that you won't die or be injured from a gunshot to the head. What I mean is that it is only your reality if you TRULY believe inside.
Let me put it this way, if you believe that a gun won't injure and/or kill you, then that is your reality (no one has the same reality) until you are shot in the back of the head with a gun.


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: Spokesman]
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Spokesman said:
If nonone can define reality how can anything be proven o exist or happen? Like my sig says.


Reality is your life. Everything you experience, feel, touch, hear , say, and believe in is YOUR own personal reality. I think where my thinking strays from others is because some people think their is this one huge reality that everyone lives in simultaneously.But how can this ever possibly be since no two people see things exactly the same.

The way I see it , is that everyone lives in their own personal realities, no matter how enlightened or smart or knowledgeable of their surroundings they may be.

I guess what im really trying to say is nothing can be proven and nothing is proven, unless its something you have proven to yourself.


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: DankBluntZ]
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DankBluntZ said:
Anything can be definatively proved if you believe it is proved in your mind. Reality is not what everyone sees, its what you yourself see and believe. So, if you believe that something has been proved (no matter what drove you to believe this) then it definatively is true. anyone agree/disagree on any level?


If you believe something is proved in your mind, then that is a belief, not truth. Truth is not a subjective entity, but more something universal that cannot be refuted in any way.
Truth can't be objected to, and if it can, then it is not truth, but a belief.
THEREFORE, none of the above questions can be PROVED because all rest on beliefs.


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
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The only thing that is 100% certain to me is that I exist as some sort of individual consciousness.

Beyond that...it's a matter of probability and possibility  :smirk:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
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prove that nothing can be proved.


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: Strumpling]
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baahhhhh... :nut:


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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: manna_man]
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We are all subjectively experiencing an objective world that none of us have any way of knowing it objectively as we experience it subjectively.

Of course, the more you remove your ego and your independant viewpoint, meditation, drugs, etc, the more you sort of clue in on the objective truths... but it is still our take on the objective truth, making it subjective truth, it is only the imagination of coinciding logic (:grin: thanks, Spokesman!)

Come on, now, prove me wrong. Bring in undeniable proof agansit what I said. Or what anyone else said. None exists. None of us can hold objective truth. Sorry.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Re: can anything be definatively proved? [Re: manna_man]
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lol i agree with manna_man :crazy2:


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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
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