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Re: Changing vibes? [Re: Shroomism]
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4th dimension is basically higher state of consciousness.
One where you are in tune with the feelings and energies of those around you..one where telepathy is a common form of communication..



Interesting. I have experienced this, the only rational explanation I can think of is that the DMT in our minds allows communication via some unexplained route, such as another dimension. Sounds crazy but how else can you explain telepathy.

Would it be more proper to call it the 0th dimension? Let me explain. As you increase in dimensions, you increase the space in which to travel, becoming more separated. In the 0th dimension, everything is one, in the 1st dimension, things may travel apart but not around other things, in the 2nd dimension things may travel around but not above nor under other things, etc.

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it's a 'place' of feeling united, as an individual within a giant web of connectedness, instead of the 3rd dimensional feeling of separation. It is less physical and more spiritual than the 3rd dimension. It is a higher, faster vibration, speaking sub-atomically. It is a place where subconscious and conscious mind are one, instead of being separated. It is a new plateu on which to experience new life lessons and levels of being, to expand and control the mental and spiritual powers. It is a place where thought manifests into reality instantly. To continue evolving as a consciousness..


Sounds to me that these are actions that humanity could accomplish with a fully developed virtual reality.


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Re: Changing vibes? [Re: Deiymiyan]
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First, and foremost.... This place, where we are, is within the fourth dimension... Where time is the fourth dimension; this is outside of your body physical... This idea is supported by Einstein.




I dunno I havent read anything by Einstein like this. I dont believe in time travel, I dont believe in many of the parallel universe theories. These are my thoughts on time.

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The second meaning refers to the fourth density. That, aspect of dimension, refers to your mental characteristics / mental vibrationnal frequencies... It's like becoming more aware of what it's all about... Keep in mind though, that your mind involves "physical" concepts as well... so the two meanings overlap, yielding in connectedness of the real physical and the mental physical.


I dont understand what mental vibrational frequencies are. Do you mean the vibration of molecules?

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I think, its synonymous to experiencing an "AH-HA !!! " phenomenon... where something all of a sudden becomes obvious to you... when before you weren't aware of it... I also think that it could somehow relate to the religious term: Epiphany.

I'm not sure if anyone can really tell you how to do it... They'll say meditation, relaxation, contemplation, reflection, etc... But to someone who is foreign to those processes, those words are rather abstract.

It'll just take practice. Learn how to better feel your way around to understand what is out there. Hellen Keller did it... and so can YOU !!!!




I've had some experiences like the one you describe, under the influence of mushrooms. Didn't require meditation etc, I just went with the flow of the trip, let things happen.

However I think you guys are talking are really talking about telepathy and contacting aliens. If so then I want some proof. With telepathy I think it could be easiest to prove, get two guys tripping on shrooms, try to send words telepathically to each other. With alien contact, its tougher. A good proof would be for them to send a formula or scientific insight. I'm not asking you to prove this but I'm just saying that is what I need to believe it.


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Re: Changing vibes? [Re: pattern]
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"I dont understand what mental vibrational frequencies are. Do you mean the vibration of molecules?"
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I can't really put my finger on that either...  I speculate that it may have something in realation to how fast you think/ create/ imagine.
 
I'm not convinced that there exist "thought molecules"....  maybe thought atoms &/or subatomic particles. Since I'd be willing to consider those as "somewhat physical", then I'd also be willing to accept that thoughts can vibrate... ummm  maybe like music....  where each specific vibrationnal pattern has its own signature frequency.

But no one I've ever talked to has created an instument to measures that... So we seem SOL on that part of the discussion at this time.
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You continue:

"However I think you guys are talking are really talking about telepathy and contacting aliens. If so then I want some proof. With telepathy I think it could be easiest to prove, get two guys tripping on shrooms, try to send words telepathically to each other. With alien contact, its tougher. A good proof would be for them to send a formula or scientific insight. I'm not asking you to prove this but I'm just saying that is what I need to believe it"
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The most interesting thing about proving the existance of telepathy would come if you could realate it to "non-tripping"  people as well.

I'm not completely sold on real-time-NOW telepathy... tripping or not...  I don't have anything else to say about that at this time.

And "Aliens"?  I haven't really seen anything either... But they sure must be smart!

Proving intelligence of somesort is one of my passions.  If I ever come up with something, I will most definately share my thoughts! I will not hold back.

:grin:


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As of yet, I still haven't been able to correctly put everything into english.  I have concepts and experiences that I have translated into art ( as far back as when I was 8 ) and  music ( which largely began during high school as I became better at expressing myself through guitar ).  Both art and music speak volumes.  I am in the process of further translation... University helped alot.

When it comes to things that seem as "extra"...  you have to remain positive about it as you investigate.  I mean, no one every scored an intentionnal goal by not taking a shot ....    due to negative thinking and excessive low self esteem. 

The words you use are more powerful than you may think.



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Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..

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