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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I have found rational explosions for all their behaviors


You cruel bastard


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: mr_kite]
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That was lightning fast editing you did there


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Jared]
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You can predict behaviour & thoughts by observing & becoming more aware of patterns

Like the orbit of planets around the sun, thoughts, feelings & behaviour orbit around us according to the attention we give them

If we are very close to someone we can pick up on what they are feeling/thinking, although they could be smiling on the surface we could sense they are deeply sad, its just feeling energy, is that telepathic? Being sensitive?



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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: mr_kite]
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mr_kite said:
That was lightning fast editing you did there


I come from Krypton.:shrug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
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And run around in red and blue tights yelling, "I can fly! I can fly!"

Now come along quietly. You don't want to wear the straitjacket again, do you?


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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You don't want to wear the straitjacket again, do you?

Well... it is a little chilly out. I guess I could wear it until I warm up a little. Or... I could use my x ray vision to start a fire in your mobile home.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Disregarding how subjective and misleading the mind can be... when is witness testimony and personal experience enough?


I do believe they have tested it in the lab many many times. Failure.

Any one can say they experience telepathy. In fact it's a favorite around here. It's nonsense really as far as I can tell. Wishful thinking of those who want power but have none.




Sure, anyone can say they have experienced telepathy.  I said it.  I'm dead serious.  And I'm all about logical, rational, linear thinking.  Yet, my experiences point to another aspect of reality that you just happen to disbelieve and then came up with some opinionated rationalization to support your belief.  But in the end, your belief is simply a belief. 

If telepathy was accepted by the majority, a new paradigm would form in which everyone believed in it despite experience or proof.  Just the same that has occurred with the paradigm shift involving aliens.

But that is besides the point.  Science is a belief system the same as any other, with defined boundaries of measurement, thus limited.

This exact argument has occurred so many times on this forum that it's absurd.  Nobody budges until they experience it themselves.  Even then, they might be tricked by the mind or by others.  But there have been plenty of verifiable cases with plenty of witnesses.  It just did happen in a lab.  Also, in my case it couldn't be controlled, so it is what it is.

People place far too much faith in science, which is consistently proving itself inaccurate and constantly changing.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: jonathanseagull]
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People place far too much faith in science, which is consistently proving itself inaccurate and constantly changing.

Science never said it could find truth (final accuracy). Still it's by far the best tool we have to test our natural world and ourselves. I think the track record is clear on this.

The problem as I see it is that subjectively evaluating our experiences by emotional guesswork usually is incorrect. And really without the structure of scientific evaluation most of what we believe is based on our emotions. Personally I would love to believe in my telepathic abilities along with shape changing and superman flying and all sorts of fun and interesting things. But I have no evidence of the likelihood  of these things unless I emotionally talk myself into them.

So like the concept of God. I will take the simplest explanation to be the most likely. We don't need god to make the world work. But it sure feels nice to have someone looking out for you. Daddy wise.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
As a one time dog trainer and one who has owned many dogs I have found rational explanations for all their behaviors. They are much more observant and focused then most humans.


Sorry but your personal experience with dogs does not count as a valid scientifical experiment. LOL. Anyway all sources provided by me will be called unreliable because they don't stroke with your beliefs. It's not forbidden to inform yourself you know... you're the only one who can convince yourself.

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Diaboleros]
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In other words your post was full of shit. I thought so. So nice to see you back here.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: jonathanseagull]
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Science is a belief system


Sorry, but not even close. Science is a methodology.

Belief is not required nor necessary.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
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How do you explain the experience I wrote about before?  I witnessed telekinesis, first hand.  No magic, no trickery, no slight of hand. 

The dude took a cigarette out of somebody else's pack and made the fucking thing levitate and hover in mid air a foot from my face.  There was no strings, props, nothing.  He bent a penny in half over someones fingertip.  I checked the penny before and after and it was the exact same penny only bent in half.  You ever tried to bend a penny in half?  No way right.  Youd have to slam on it with a hammer or something.

And dont say Im lying, because I am not.  It wasnt a dream.  It wasnt my imagination.  It was real, and I feel like I met that guy for a reason. 

If you would have been in my shoes you would be singing a way different tune.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
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Well unfortunately, for all we know you could be a compulsive liar or just trying to fuck with us...

So, sorry if you really saw telekinesis, because it'll be a bitch trying to convince anybody who wasn't there with you.

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Sleepwalker]
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You can either accept it or not.  But dont call me a liar.


You skeptics are in for a rude awakening.  And for the record, im not trying to fuck with anybody.  I have absolutely no reason to whatsoever.



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Edited by Veritas (11/06/08 09:24 AM)

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
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I never said I don't believe you.  I'm saying you can't prove it.  Do you disagree?

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Sleepwalker]
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No, Youre right.  I shouldnt have assumed that that was your position.

Im not trying to prove anything though, im just trying to pry peoples minds open just enough for them to accept the possibility that these things might exist.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
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I have been to many a magic show wherein objects were levitated, etc.

Many gullible people thought that they witnessed something extraordinary instead of an illusion.

If your friend was for real, he could have licked up a cool million instead of impressing people at a bar or party, but he knows he could not fool a professional.

The open mind argument holds no water.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Where's the satisfaction in instantly raking in the millions?

If I had superpowers I know I'd just fuck with people at bars.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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So dont believe it, I dont really care. 

Edited by Veritas (11/06/08 09:22 AM)

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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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You ever seen a magician bend a penny around somebody elses fingertip from less than 2 feet away?  It was not slight of hand.  I was instructed to inspect the penny.  The date, mint, and one unique feature of the penny. 

How does one fake ripping a deck of cards in half?  Especially a guy that looked like he could only bench 135 lbs.

Its not like I was in an audience 50 feet from the stage.  That space is what makes it easy to fool people.   

There are no doubts when it is directly in front of your face.

The guy seriously had a calm and strange aura about him.  Like he didnt have a care in the world.


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