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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9191738 - 11/06/08 06:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)




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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9191810 - 11/06/08 06:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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The open mind argument holds no water.
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What? seriously? Thats not what Im arguing at all.  I just posted my story.  Thats all.  I did mention that I am open minded but NOWHERE did I say that that had anything to do with making it possible for this guy to do this stuff.

You thinking that you're going to change my mind into believing I saw a magic trick is as hopeless as me trying to convince you of even the possibility of telepathy or telekinesis.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: daytripper23]
    #9191833 - 11/06/08 06:49 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Whats that supposed to mean?


Just because the movie poster says "Nothing is what it seems"  Im supposed to discount my experiences and beliefs?  Please.


Or are you just posting that for the hell of it?


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9191860 - 11/06/08 06:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

First you offer a story to make a point then say you don't care what anyone thinks. Which is it?

So you are saying that close-up magicians cannot fool people? How much are you willing to wager?

Why should your story carry more weight than those giddy witnesses who swear they saw something paranormal watching one of Criss Angel's illusions?


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9191966 - 11/06/08 07:06 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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First you offer a story to make a point then say you don't care what anyone thinks. Which is it?






You are totally implying that I was trying to make some point.  Wrong!  I was simply telling a story,  nothing more, nothing less.  Thats why I dont care what anybody thinks.


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So you are saying that close-up magicians cannot fool people? How much are you willing to wager?





Uh, no.  Thats not what im saying at all.  You are wrong again.  Ive seen really good slight of hand at the magic castle in hollywood.  So I know what that looks like.  The stuff this guy was doing was not in the catergory of slight of hand at all.


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Why should your story carry more weight than those giddy witnesses who swear they saw something paranormal watching one of Criss Angel's illusions?
D4D0C8




Strike three and you are out!  Im not trying to say my story should or does carry more weight than anybody else's.  You just imply and assume, imply and assume. 

So you dont believe me, thats fine.  Im done conversing with you.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9192313 - 11/06/08 08:06 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

This is Steve Fearson's floating cigarette routine:


Ripping a phonebook:


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9192343 - 11/06/08 08:11 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)


lol

I posted that to indicate that it is a good movie, not a good poster genius.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: daytripper23]
    #9192452 - 11/06/08 08:27 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I have no opinion one way or the other on telepathy, but be mindful that sometime it's wise not to be so open-minded that your brains have fallen out.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
    #9193018 - 11/06/08 09:57 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
In other words your post was full of shit. I thought so. So nice to see you back here.



Brilliant argumentation. :thumbup:


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: postanaldrip]
    #9194211 - 11/06/08 06:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

And dont say Im lying, because I am not.

:rofl2: Man is that statement  silly or what?

I'm supposed to believe someone I don't know-- why?:crazy2:

I also would have to believe that you were capable of interpreting your experiences correctly.

Get real.:thumbdown:


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Edited by Icelander (11/06/08 09:29 PM)


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Diaboleros]
    #9194230 - 11/06/08 06:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Diaboleros said:
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Icelander said:
In other words your post was full of shit. I thought so. So nice to see you back here.



Brilliant argumentation. :thumbup:




You posted nothing to debate, as usual.:thumbdown:


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
    #9194345 - 11/06/08 06:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Diaboleros, OC, Icelander & postanaldrip:  Please address your remarks to the IDEAS being debated & not those debating them.  Any further posts regarding other posters will result official warnings & entry into the Ban-o-Matic system.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Diaboleros]
    #9194541 - 11/06/08 07:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Diaboleros said:
It has already been scientifically proven through experiments that some animals, like dogs are telepathic.





Burden of proof is on the claimant.  As you have chosen to state that this claim has been scientifically proven, it is up to you to provide outside verification of said proof.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Veritas]
    #9194884 - 11/06/08 08:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'd certainly love to see it.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
    #9194966 - 11/06/08 08:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm surprised more people haven't had obviously telepathic experiences on mushrooms or maybe they just don't want to remember.
I've known who was calling before I answered, had friends answer questions I didn't ask out loud and have had friends describe things I was hallucinating.

It seems obvious to me that ESP is real yet it's intimate, involuntary, spontaneous and unrepeatable.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Middleman]
    #9195012 - 11/06/08 09:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm surprised more people haven't had obviously telepathic experiences on mushrooms or maybe they just don't want to remember.
I've known who was calling before I answered, had friends answer questions I didn't ask out loud and have had friends describe things I was hallucinating.

It seems obvious to me that ESP is real yet it's intimate, involuntary, spontaneous and unrepeatable.




I've experienced plenty of psychedelic telepathic experiences, and even confirmed their occurrence at the time through empirical tests (I would send a message to my friend in the same room telling him when precisely to say something and what word to say, and vice versa) and this was verified multiple times to my great disbelief.

It's very hard to instantaneously dismiss this as a drug-induced illusion--I'm still trying.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Middleman]
    #9195226 - 11/06/08 09:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

and unrepeatable.

Right now by telepathy I can see you at your computer reading this. :whoa: My god I can do it.


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Icelander]
    #9195244 - 11/06/08 09:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Now, now, that's remote viewing.  Can't mix up our mystical phenomena... :nonono:


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Veritas]
    #9195437 - 11/06/08 10:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Veritas said:
Quote:

Diaboleros said:
It has already been scientifically proven through experiments that some animals, like dogs are telepathic.





Burden of proof is on the claimant.  As you have chosen to state that this claim has been scientifically proven, it is up to you to provide outside verification of said proof.



One magical word: google. 


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Re: Telepathy, eh... [Re: Diaboleros]
    #9195906 - 11/06/08 11:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

No, it is not up to others to prove your claims for you.  This is a basic premise of debate.  :nono:


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