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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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American Propaganda
    #1498144 - 04/27/03 04:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i rarely watch american television (i try to stick to space ghost, the simpsons, and curb you enthusiasm)

but, ive been noticing a increase in propaganda commercials.

-if find these commercials to be really blatant and silly, like the one thats shows clips from past wars and then says "every generation has its heroes, this generation is no different" or some shit.

-my question is.....do people really fall for that? it seems anyone with an ounce of media literacy could see through the governments pathetic attempts at mind control.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1498366 - 04/27/03 06:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, and many of them frequent this message board


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1498410 - 04/27/03 07:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

haha so true.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1498453 - 04/27/03 07:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

American TV is shockingly bad. That's all I have to say.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1498462 - 04/27/03 07:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It's a slant, alright.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1498485 - 04/27/03 07:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I don't watch TV anymore. This neo-nazi patriotism destroys my frontal lobes.

And....sadly, yes, many in the population would never question such "commercials". Did you expect them to? 40% thought Iraqi's flew the planes into the twin towers.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1499183 - 04/28/03 12:20 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

that's pretty fucked up if that 40% statistic is true. I wonder how misleading the question asked was. The group doing the polling could have worded it to bring out that statistic..

But it does seem that Americans believe Bin Laden and Hussein are close chums, which is fucked up.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1499484 - 04/28/03 01:49 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

A recent AOL poll found that 67% of polled aol users think we should "Punish France"


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1499501 - 04/28/03 01:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well they are AOL users. Did you expect someone who pays extra for inferior sevice to be intelligent?


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: z@z.com]
    #1499514 - 04/28/03 01:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: American Propaganda [Re: z@z.com]
    #1499551 - 04/28/03 02:09 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

That's what we have to work with kids.

i've driven from one coast of this fine country to the other, and back.

And i realized one thing
this country is full of stupid hicks. Peoplethink what their told to think by the TV, they shop to support the same coperations that exploit them
They use phosphate house hold cleaners that give them cancer and wreak havock on the enviorment of the very earth that supports their lives,
they line their land with toxic pesdicides, that kill all insects, pests and helpful, they spray their bug free grass with toxic herbacides, to kill anyplant besides the one they need to make sure their lawn looks EXACTLY like eveyone elses.

then they;
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...pay extra for inferior sevice...




and that's not even the tip of the iceburg


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1500034 - 04/28/03 06:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Define Punish France.

I'm all for not buying their products but they should not be threatened with force or through sanctions.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500047 - 04/28/03 07:25 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

"I'm all for not buying their products "

why wont you buy their products?


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1500053 - 04/28/03 07:39 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Because i don't want to. It's great having the right to buy what you want or don't want. They stabbed us in the back so i'm expressing my distaste for them the only way i can.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500087 - 04/28/03 08:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

That's because you bought the propaganda, that resoultion would come trough if France wouldn't announce veto. The reality is that France wouldn't even have to use veto because USA failed to get a simple majority in security council.
Most of the world was against intervention, not only France.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: zeronio]
    #1500101 - 04/28/03 09:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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That's because you bought the propaganda




Is that all you libbies can say? Anything that the socialist left doesn't agree with is "Propaganda"...

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that resoultion would come trough if France wouldn't announce veto.




what?

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The reality is that France wouldn't even have to use veto because USA failed to get a simple majority in security council.




then why did they threaten it no matter what the result would be? They have that right and we as americans have the right to not accept the french.

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Most of the world was against intervention, not only France.




except for the 50+ countries that supported it.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500113 - 04/28/03 09:47 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Because i don't want to. It's great having the right to buy what you want or don't want.




Indeed it is great to have that right.

I hate to draw fire from folks that I'm usually aligned with, but I kinda think that the French should have towed the American line - no matter how fucked up it was and still is. The bottom line is that the French owe the USA big-time. If it weren't for us, those bastards - and all of Europe for that matter - would be speaking German right now. It's just not nice to shit on people that have saved your ass. I hope for their sake they never need it saved again.

I, on the other hand, owe our fine government nothing and will shit upon George W. Bush Jr. and will boycott brand America at every opportunity.

Boycott Brand America


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1500115 - 04/28/03 09:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I, on the other hand, owe our fine government nothing and will shit upon George W. Bush Jr. and will boycott brand America at every opportunity.



As long as you realize that you still have the freedom to do so. God willing that will never change.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1500122 - 04/28/03 09:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I hate to draw fire from folks that I'm usually aligned with, but I kinda think that the French should have towed the American line - no matter how fucked up it was and still is. The bottom line is that the French owe the USA big-time. If it weren't for us, those bastards - and all of Europe for that matter - would be speaking German right now. It's just not nice to shit on people that have saved your ass. I hope for their sake they never need it saved again. 




What have you done with the REAL Jimsuzo? :confused: i'm scared.


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Re: American Propaganda [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1500185 - 04/28/03 10:43 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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The bottom line is that the French owe the USA big-time. If it weren't for us, those bastards - and all of Europe for that matter - would be speaking German right now. It's just not nice to shit on people that have saved your ass. I hope for their




And do we, in our infinite wisdom, forget the fact that WE, as a Country, would be subjects of the British Monarchy if it wasnt for France bailing our ass out in the Revolution? Hell, my politics teacher tells me we still havent paid back the money we owe them from that one. Really though, any country we help should back us no matter what? That sounds pretty fucking scary to me.

Since France helped us out that one time, I guess we better do whatever their party line is, eh? Ridiculous....


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