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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
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is it time yet?


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: Shins]
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I guess none of you thought of this..

So you take up arms. Against who??? the government!... ok... where? the white house? gonna march to the white house and overthrow the president? Thats only one branch of government. On top of that the american people voted the president in.

So how would you overthrow the government? My point being is it is so intermingled with us, that where would you even start? The cops? cmon now....

Unless the government grows to where the president becomes a dictator, i see no way to actually overthrow it. Besides vote them out. There cant be no southvsnorthvseastvswest. Cuz with transportation the way it is, everyone is connected.

People will have to march to every senators office, representatives, governors, president, supreme judges to actually overthrow the government. I see that sooo sooo unlikely. A mob couldnt even coordinate something like that.

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: dshow]
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Overthrow? They can keep their system, I was thinking more along the lines of "This land south of here and west of this is no longer your jurisdiction America" Come take it back. see what happens


COME SAY THAT AT THE FUCKING GATHERING, SEE WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS.


:lol:

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
Overthrow? They can keep their system, I was thinking more along the lines of "This land south of here and west of this is no longer your jurisdiction America" Come take it back. see what happens


COME SAY THAT AT THE FUCKING GATHERING, SEE WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS.


:lol:




Yeah that would be a good idea, like a free state. They would be pissed that you took land that they "own" though. I doubt you would be able to stand up against the american army. They wouldn't even have to send troops in, they could just bomb everyone to hell.


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: The Vapor]
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Yea that would be part of the plan though too, propoganda I guess about how they should give their guns to the politicians and let them come kill us.

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
Yea that would be part of the plan though too, propoganda I guess about how they should give their guns to the politicians and let them come kill us.



but they'll do just that...

you might pull it off if you went to the bible belt and rounded up all of the rednecks flying confederate flags.
but who wants to win that war?


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: PreparationH]
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fuck risking my life in a rebellion.  if the US continues on this path of revoking rights and economic strife I'm just gonna get the hell out of here.  I'm patriotic toward some parts of american culture (mostly the music) and some of the people, but otherwise I don't love this country enough to fight for it.  I'd gladly adopt another country and culture...  hopefully before they start prohibiting americans from leaving US soil. :cop2:

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: BoneMan]
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BoneMan said:
fuck risking my life in a rebellion.  if the US continues on this path of revoking rights and economic strife I'm just gonna get the hell out of here.  I'm patriotic toward some parts of american culture (mostly the music) and some of the people, but otherwise I don't love this country enough to fight for it.  I'd gladly adopt another country and culture...  hopefully before they start prohibiting americans from leaving US soil. :cop2:



This^


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: PreparationH]
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If theres gonna be a revolution its gonna HAVE to be non violent, The current goverment is in complete control of every media out there other then the internet all it takes is a bit of propaganda to turn it from a revolution into a terrorist insurrection.

A good way to start this would be the take over of a states government by organizing people into a large enough political party that you can legally veto them fucks out of there, then declaring independence from the states, the government would have to tread extremely carefully about the way they dealt with this.

Anyone want to elaborate on my idea I fail at the terminology of american democracy.


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War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it.-George Orwell-

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: Enigma of Ankou]
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Enigma of Ankou said:
Anyone want to elaborate on my idea I fail at the terminology of american democracy.



:rofl:  your attempt at using the word "veto" failed especially hard.  but it won the hell out of being hilarious :thumbup:.

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: BoneMan]
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fuck risking my life in a rebellion.  if the US continues on this path of revoking rights and economic strife I'm just gonna get the hell out of here.  I'm patriotic toward some parts of american culture (mostly the music) and some of the people, but otherwise I don't love this country enough to fight for it.  I'd gladly adopt another country and culture...  hopefully before they start prohibiting americans from leaving US soil.




Fuck you and fuck everyone that thinks like that. You might think its smart, maybe it is. But your the type of pussy that will be the downfall of this country.

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: dshow]
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They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.



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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.




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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: dshow]
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dshow said:
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fuck risking my life in a rebellion.  if the US continues on this path of revoking rights and economic strife I'm just gonna get the hell out of here.  I'm patriotic toward some parts of american culture (mostly the music) and some of the people, but otherwise I don't love this country enough to fight for it.  I'd gladly adopt another country and culture...  hopefully before they start prohibiting americans from leaving US soil.




Fuck you and fuck everyone that thinks like that. You might think its smart, maybe it is. But your the type of pussy that will be the downfall of this country.





lol... cuz you're obviously posting from a foxhole in iraq :lol:


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
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SpiritualSnorkel said:
anarchOi said:
lol don't be so 20th century... our government doesn't need guns to squash a rebellion they have bombs



Yeah, that's why US soldiers are getting killed in the Middle East by insurgents with antique guns, and hardly any tactical knowledge.



And what the fuck would you know about it?  It doesn't go down like that.  Antique guns? lol, wow you really are fucking retarded.  It's not like insurgents are shooting muzzleloaders at us. Ak-47, do you even know what caliber that is? Problly not. How about a 338 lapua? Do you know any military tactics that are used in the middle east? problly not. So stfu about things you have no clue about.

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: BoneMan]
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BoneMan said:
fuck risking my life in a rebellion.  if the US continues on this path of revoking rights and economic strife I'm just gonna get the hell out of here.  I'm patriotic toward some parts of american culture (mostly the music) and some of the people, but otherwise I don't love this country enough to fight for it.  I'd gladly adopt another country and culture...  hopefully before they start prohibiting americans from leaving US soil. :cop2:[/quote

Good luck, maybe ethiopia would be a good country to consider. Maybe you could join a flute band.

Edited by snuffedout (12/06/10 10:55 PM)

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: snuffedout]
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The problem in the middle east is their devotion... They could be using pick forks and they'd still kill a few US soldiers in the mix-up.

No American rebellion will EVER succeed unless you can match that kind of devotion on top of being technologically sophisticated.


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: snuffedout]
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Antique guns, hell no. Old ass soviet surplus, yes.

Weapons and tactics training, they severely lack. That's why they had to kill the majority of soldiers with IED's and suicide bombers that were promised they would go to paradise with 72 virgins.

But they haven't done anything to stop the efforts by coalition troops to establish a democratic state in Iraq, eliminate Saddam Hussein and more. Sure they kill a lot of people, but if you look historically at wars trying to overthrow a dictatorship, it went rather well.

Something like 4000 US troops killed in 7 years when just 35 years before there was a death toll of over 50,000 just trying to push back communists in a jungle.


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: anarchOi]
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anarchOi said:
The problem in the middle east is their devotion... They could be using pick forks and they'd still kill a few US soldiers in the mix-up.

No American rebellion will EVER succeed unless you can match that kind of devotion on top of being technologically sophisticated.



haha, the problem in the ME isn't their devotion, because thier fucking retarded.  The problem in the middle east is the U.S. militarys protocol on procedures and the Geneva convention.

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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: snuffedout]
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snuffedout said:
SpiritualSnorkel said:
anarchOi said:
lol don't be so 20th century... our government doesn't need guns to squash a rebellion they have bombs



Yeah, that's why US soldiers are getting killed in the Middle East by insurgents with antique guns, and hardly any tactical knowledge.



And what the fuck would you know about it?  It doesn't go down like that.  Antique guns? lol, wow you really are fucking retarded.  It's not like insurgents are shooting muzzleloaders at us. Ak-47, do you even know what caliber that is? Problly not. How about a 338 lapua? Do you know any military tactics that are used in the middle east? problly not. So stfu about things you have no clue about.




:smbfacepalm: no wonder your a opt out you act like a prick.


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Re: We have guns to thwart a tyrannous government but... [Re: anarchOi]
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fuck risking my life in a rebellion.  if the US continues on this path of revoking rights and economic strife I'm just gonna get the hell out of here.  I'm patriotic toward some parts of american culture (mostly the music) and some of the people, but otherwise I don't love this country enough to fight for it.  I'd gladly adopt another country and culture...  hopefully before they start prohibiting americans from leaving US soil.




You should probably just G T F O. lol:hi:

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